FRR: Will Pryor Be A Captain?

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On today's show, we are joined by Ohio State players Jake Stoneburner and Travis Howard. Stoneburner discusses the "hybrid" role he's playing as a tight end/wide receiver this spring, while Howard talks about the impressive month he's having after taking over as the Buckeyes' No. 1 corner. These interviews were recorded moments after OSU's scrimmage on Saturday. Steve Helwagen and Dave Biddle were at the scrimmage and will give their thoughts on which players are helping themselves and which players are hurting themselves the most this spring.

Also in the News segment, Helwagen and Biddle debate whether OSU senior quarterback Terrelle Pryor should be a captain this season. Yes, there are sure to be heated opinions on both sides of the ledger there.

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  • Hopefully TP is not a captain. He is the qb but he is not a leader imo. His past transgression wouldn't allow him to have the respect of the players. Articles that leak out say some people aren't to fond of him on the team enough to where I don't think he would be voted.

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  • If your the coaching staff at Ohio State I don't see how you can let TP or any of the suspended players be a captain. In my opinion what is going to happen is Brewster, Nate Williams, and Moeller will be the captains with another spot for a rotating offensive captain. This gives Posey TP and Boom a chance when they come back to be a captain for specific games.

  • He's one of the biggest reason's we win.
    That being said, That means a few other play's won't be captain's as well.
    Do we keep Fickell as our Head coach and demote Tressel to assistant? I think not!
    Pryor made some mistake's but he's also paid his due's.
    He's a captain whether we like it or not!
    In my opinion.

  • goodmilton0 said... (original post)

    He's one of the biggest reason's we win. That being said, That means a few other play's won't be captain's as well. Do we keep Fickell as our Head coach and demote Tressel to assistant? I think not! Pryor made some mistake's but he's also paid his due's. He's a captain whether we like it or not! In my opinion.

    There is a difference between captain and being a head coach. Terrelle will get his starting spot back but will not be a captain. Being a captain is for players who demonstrate character and set an example for the rest of the player on the team both on and off the field. Yes Terrelle is one of the best QB's in OSU history but players and coaches will not and cannot give such an honor when there are others who have showed integrity on and off the field and will be there EVERY GAME this season.

  • LoL at people talking about character......I wonder how many character flaws you people have? No one is perfect and no leader is perfect that's what makes you better. Last time I checked Troy was a Captain and look what he did.....hmmm double standards for you people huh?

  • VTBrowns said... (original post)

    LoL at people talking about character......I wonder how many character flaws you people have? No one is perfect and no leader is perfect that's what makes you better. Last time I checked Troy was a Captain and look what he did.....hmmm double standards for you people huh?

    When Troy was voted captain his senior year was he suspended that season for any games? TP won't be there for 5 games! Plus captains are required to speak to the media after every game. You really think Tress wants to make TP available every week to speak with the media? That will never happen!

  • VTBrowns said... (original post)

    LoL at people talking about character......I wonder how many character flaws you people have? No one is perfect and no leader is perfect that's what makes you better. Last time I checked Troy was a Captain and look what he did.....hmmm double standards for you people huh?

    So let me get this straight. You are a JT lover and think he is God and did nothing wrong. JT will coach OSU past Joe PA years. He is above this university. Now you are stating here, that it's about character. And that you want these 5 players "who broke the rules" to be the captains of the team.

    Man VT I want you on my jury if I do something wrong.

  • Chuman said... (original post)

    So let me get this straight. You are a JT lover and think he is God and did nothing wrong. JT will coach OSU past Joe PA years. He is above this university. Now you are stating here, that it's about character. And that you want these 5 players "who broke the rules" to be the captains of the team.

    Man VT I want you on my jury if I do something wrong.

    I'm with you chuman. OSU has been around 100 years and will be around another 1000 years. Yet everyone acts like JT is above it all and whoever coaches next will just suck. And now we all want the tat5 as captains?!?!? My god people. These guys will be gone in 12 months and we will continue to roll and play football.

    and now there are rumors that people on the board of trustees want JT gone too....and not just a bunch of armchair qbs on bucknuts. well isn't that a surprise.

  • Just in case you didn't know, Pryor committed these acts some time ago.
    No one person is perfect, and that goe's for the coach as well.
    Pryor is demonstrating what a captain is about, by helping other's in practice/Braxton Miller and learning from his mistakes.
    I don't think Pryor is as well spoken as some would like but that doesn't mean he isn't captain material.
    The player's will decide and I think they'll see the change in him.
    I like Tressel a lot but I remember seeing Clarett driving two distinct vehicle's, his time in Columbus. "Before he was in trouble".
    I know I wasn't the only one who noticed this day to day occurrence.
    I don't think thing's go on like that as much anymore but I'm sure everyone learned, bettered themselves and moved on.

  • My point is, I don't think Tress or Pryor meant to disgrace the University or to cause problem's, although they did.
    Tress has been good for the Kid's and the University but mistake's have been made along the way.
    Pryor's finally growing up but is paying for something he did when he was younger.

  • goodmilton0 said... (original post)

    My point is, I don't think Tress or Pryor meant to disgrace the University or to cause problem's, although they did. Tress has been good for the Kid's and the University but mistake's have been made along the way. Pryor's finally growing up but is paying for something he did when he was younger.

    that's all fine and dandy. but what he did should eliminate him from being a captain, imo. it's great that he is mentoring the younger qbs but that doesn't mean he should be a captain.

  • Who all do you think will be the captains?

  • I can't (if it was my team) in good faith make someone a captain who has gotten himself in trouble with the NCAA to the point of being suspended 1/3 of a season, and whose actions compounded with my own may end up costing me the job I love.

    That being said, I don't see anyone other than maybe Mike Brewster being counted on to be a captain. Maybe 'Bino. We'll see.

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  • goodmilton0 said... (original post)

    Just in case you didn't know, Pryor committed these acts some time ago. No one person is perfect, and that goe's for the coach as well. Pryor is demonstrating what a captain is about, by helping other's in practice/Braxton Miller and learning from his mistakes. I don't think Pryor is as well spoken as some would like but that doesn't mean he isn't captain material. The player's will decide and I think they'll see the change in him. I like Tressel a lot but I remember seeing Clarett driving two distinct vehicle's, his time in Columbus. "Before he was in trouble". I know I wasn't the only one who noticed this day to day occurrence. I don't think thing's go on like that as much anymore but I'm sure everyone learned, bettered themselves and moved on.

    I understand that no one is perfect. I surely am not. I do wrong, but live with my decision. No one wants bad things to happen to coaches and players but when they do they madde that choice and life goes on.

    I am with everyone - for 2nd chances. But why hold these kids to god-like status? Yes they made a mistake, OK we all except it- but let them play the 2nd half of the season and move on. Don't make them captians. Some things in life are held to a higher standard. If you screw up you lose that standard. Yes you can still be a player at OSU, but you lost that higher quality.

  • Whether Pryor is voted captain or not, which he probably will, he is the offensive leader of this team. His leadership will determine how far this team will go the remaining 8 or 9 games. The mistake he made was as a freshman? When Pryor came to OSU he was an immature "superstar", he has went through a maturation process to become a leader. Was Troy Smith a captain? Remember he was suspended two games for taking cash and one of them was a bowl game. I think we forget Pryor has the most scrutinized job in Ohio and that is the Ohio State QB, and he still is just a kid. Look for him to come back from his suspension and have a great shortened senior year! By the way do you think taking cash or selling something you owned for cash is worse?

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  • People come to TP's defense and say he is just a kid (which is BS), but fair enough. Well, if he is "just a kid", then there is no way he should be a captain. Give it to one of the players who is "not a kid" and conducts himself like a pro. The captain position is for players who are not kds.


  • I can only hope that TP & his gang of bandoleros (Herron, thomas, Posey, & Adams) meet with the team and ask NOT to be voted captains. This would show "maturity" & "leadership" and would go a long way in gaining back some respect from Buckeye nation.

  • AikenBucknutz said... (original post)

    I can only hope that TP & his gang of bandoleros (Herron, thomas, Posey, & Adams) meet with the team and ask NOT to be voted captains. This would show "maturity" & "leadership" and would go a long way in gaining back some respect from Buckeye nation.

    Great post!

  • he sure doesnt deserve to be a captain. he's never done anything on the sidelines or off the field that says to me he's a captain

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  • AZBuckeye06 said... (original post)

    If your the coaching staff at Ohio State I don't see how you can let TP or any of the suspended players be a captain. In my opinion what is going to happen is Brewster, Nate Williams, and Moeller will be the captains with another spot for a rotating offensive captain. This gives Posey TP and Boom a chance when they come back to be a captain for specific games.

    I agree, he had his chance to lead, but leading involves both on and off the field. What would that say to all of the other players who follow the rules, get no headlines and aren't off to the NFL. "It's ok if you are the QB (insert relevant player position)?" This young man has been handed the keys to the kingdom and still does not demonstrate the necessary maturity in his actions. His direct actions could lead to tOSU losing their head coach. Being named a captain by your team is a great honor, this honor is bestowed on team players who put the team and their school before themsleves. His actions over his career here are easily questionable, and as a leader/team captain that isn't acceptable

    Now many of you will say, "He is still a young man and they make mistakes and they will learn from them, we all make those kinds of mistakes growing up". I agree, but TP has been in the sports spotlight for several years including all of his HS years., That is a long time, and the lessons in life about being a leader should have surfaced in him by now. He has had far more time to "adjust" to being in the spotlight than any other player on this team. His actions, and many of his subsequent public "tweets' do not demonstrate any maturation on his part.

    I think he is a great college football player, but I question his overall performance to include off the field..

    http://www.thelantern.com/sports/commentary-ohio-state-football-program-shooting-itself-in-the-foot-1.2181984

    The above link is Lantern story about yet another Pryor tweet he made yesterday that I just read and unfortunately reinforces my prior statements about maturity and leadership concerns with TP.

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  • I think Moeller and Sabion on defense, both seniors, both sacrificed a great deal for the team ( a year redshirt, two years medical redshirt) yet they never strayed and kept on growing, two great players and young men..

    On offense probably Brewster and Browning, maybe Shugarts. These guys take all the heat and get pounded on every play. Yes , I know Shugarts is not a fan favorite, but the fans do not vote the players do. Only they know the real effort being put forth monday through Friday, not just what we see on Saturday.

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  • jjahn24 said... (original post)

    Whether Pryor is voted captain or not, which he probably will, he is the offensive leader of this team. His leadership will determine how far this team will go the remaining 8 or 9 games. The mistake he made was as a freshman? When Pryor came to OSU he was an immature "superstar", he has went through a maturation process to become a leader. Was Troy Smith a captain? Remember he was suspended two games for taking cash and one of them was a bowl game. I think we forget Pryor has the most scrutinized job in Ohio and that is the Ohio State QB, and he still is just a kid. Look for him to come back from his suspension and have a great shortened senior year! By the way do you think taking cash or selling something you owned for cash is worse?

    What do any one of these points have to do with Pryor deserving to be a captain. Troy Smith grew up infront of our eyes and became a leader. Just because TP plays a position that requires him to be a leader doesn't mean he deserves to be a captian. Again I don't believe that he isn't a leader on this team, but there is no way you deserve to be a captain if you are not there for your team physically. He will miss 5 games and there are other players on this team who will be there, who have always done the right things who deserve this more than TP does. If TP is just a kid what is Michael Brewster because if I'm not mistaking they are the same age and Mike has not been in any trouble? I am happy with what TP has done for this program on the field for 3 years and I don't dislike the kid at all. There is just no way that he should be voted in as captain. Like I have said before leave one offensive captain spot open for a rotating captain, so when TP comes back he has the opportunity to be the captain for one or two games. Guys like Brewster, Moeller, Williams, and Sabino all deserve to walk out to the center of the field for the coin toss every week and be recognized as captains for the rest of their lives.

  • Hey Dave, is there any way you can interrupt Tim May or just shove a sock in his mouth? I am so sick and tired of his idiotic questions. He sounds like such a hillbilly, yall!! When I hear him ranting, I just want to rip my ears off. How can he be a Buckeye fan when he is obviously from the south? Answer: he's not.

    Other than that moron, it was a good FRR. Don't know what I think about TP being a captain. I do think he should definitely be considered the later part of the season when he's back playing. He has done a lot for this team. Love Brewster and Moeller.

  • AZBuckeye06 said... (original post)

    What do any one of these points have to do with Pryor deserving to be a captain. Troy Smith grew up infront of our eyes and became a leader. Just because TP plays a position that requires him to be a leader doesn't mean he deserves to be a captian. Again I don't believe that he isn't a leader on this team, but there is no way you deserve to be a captain if you are not there for your team physically. He will miss 5 games and there are other players on this team who will be there, who have always done the right things who deserve this more than TP does. If TP is just a kid what is Michael Brewster because if I'm not mistaking they are the same age and Mike has not been in any trouble? I am happy with what TP has done for this program on the field for 3 years and I don't dislike the kid at all. There is just no way that he should be voted in as captain. Like I have said before leave one offensive captain spot open for a rotating captain, so when TP comes back he has the opportunity to be the captain for one or two games. Guys like Brewster, Moeller, Williams, and Sabino all deserve to walk out to the center of the field for the coin toss every week and be recognized as captains for the rest of their lives.

    Brewsters a kid too. These boards are way too hard on these kids, yes 18, 19, 20 year olds are kids. And how the hell do most of you know how Pryor is in the locker room? Ive heard from ex-players that Pryor is actually matured and well liked and respected by his teammates. A leader is a leader whether he is on the field playing or not, if you ask buckeye players who there leader is I bet most would mention Pryor. He made a mistake as an 18-year old yes kid, hes paying the price with a 5-game suspension he came back to face the suspension, give him credit for. His leadership in practice and mentoring of the young QB's will be huge in how we play the first 5 games. If hes not a captain it should be because he just isnt a leader not because of a mistake he made 3 years ago.

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  • jjahn24 said... (original post)

    Brewsters a kid too. These boards are way too hard on these kids, yes 18, 19, 20 year olds are kids. And how the hell do most of you know how Pryor is in the locker room? Ive heard from ex-players that Pryor is actually matured and well liked and respected by his teammates. A leader is a leader whether he is on the field playing or not, if you ask buckeye players who there leader is I bet most would mention Pryor. He made a mistake as an 18-year old yes kid, hes paying the price with a 5-game suspension he came back to face the suspension, give him credit for. His leadership in practice and mentoring of the young QB's will be huge in how we play the first 5 games. If hes not a captain it should be because he just isnt a leader not because of a mistake he made 3 years ago.

    No if he isn't a captain it should be because he won't be there for the first five games. Like was said in a previous post it would show me true leader ship if him, Adams, Posey, and Boom all went to the coaches and asked them to exclude them from the posibility of being voted a captain. Yes Brewster is a kid, but quit making the excuse that TP made a mistake at 18. Brewster didn't make that mistake and neither did a whole lot of other Buckeyes at 18. jjan I never said that Pryor isn't a leader.

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