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What We Learned: OSU 72, Iowa 63

Thad Matta after OSU's win over Iowa

Ohio State led by as many as 24 points but had to hold on for dear life in a 72-63 win over Iowa. Updated with analysis, postgame videos, notes and quotes.

Steve Helwagen
    • Only saw the second half. Boy they were not mentally in this game. Almost everyone made a mental mistake. I hope this team can get things together.

      NEOhio77

    • Second half Aaron is struggling with the press. Ross is struggling with 4 turnovers. Aaron with 6 turnovers and Scott continues to sit. Thad here is a hint get your best ball handler in the game against the press not 8 minutes too late with Iowa getting within 4 points.

      This post was edited by WestonBuck on 1/22/2013 at 8:05 PM

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      BuckeyeKeg

    • Watching Jent coach during timeouts. Maybe Matta should share some of that $300,000 raise with him since Matta just stands around and has no clue what to do. Poor coaching on the rotations.

      Clock mismanagement at the end running the shot clock down till the only shot left was a prayer.

      Except for Thomas, this team has no chemistry, and many times no clue. Also too many silly fouls at the end causing the clock to stop and putting Iowa at the line.

      Does any of the coaches teach fundamentals or is it a chinese fire drill up and down the court. Really poor execution tonight against a bottom-feeder team.

      jdbucksct

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      OsuDomin8

    • jdbucksct said...

      Watching Jent coach during timeouts. Maybe Matta should share some of that $300,000 raise with him since Matta just stands around and has no clue what to do. Poor coaching on the rotations.

      Clock mismanagement at the end running the shot clock down till the only shot left was a prayer.

      Except for Thomas, this team has no chemistry, and many times no clue. Also too many silly fouls at the end causing the clock to stop and putting Iowa at the line.

      Does any of the coaches teach fundamentals or is it a chinese fire drill up and down the court. Really poor execution tonight against a bottom-feeder team.

      They did beat Wisconsin. No bottom feeders here except penn st and NEB

      OsuDomin8

    • Updated with analysis, notes, quotes and postgame videos:

      http://ohiostate.247sports.com/Article/We-share-lessons-from-Ohio-States-all-too-close-win-over-Iowa-112773

      SteveHelwagen

    • I saw a young team, get a big lead, relax, and then have trouble fending off a lesser talanted team who seemed to "want it more" in the 2nd half. When you have the top scorer in the league, don't forget about him in the lst 10 minutes of the game when you need points. Also, start practicing critical throw in excerises and drills that are sure to take place in the final minutes of a game when the other team is pressing you for the ball. Oh, also learn how to box out a guy on rebounds.its not that hard to do!

      Bigjimmie

    • I continue to wonder what the Duke, Syracuse, Arizona, Florida and other high major elite coaches saw in Amir Williams that we're not seeing. Yeah, big guys take the longest to develop but he is maddeningly frustrating to watch and has ZERO post moves after a year and half in CBUS and is just about the worst rebounding 7 footer these eyes have ever seen. Unacceptable and I really question how much he truly loves this game to look like he does at this stage in his career. Makes you wonder how bad Trey McDonald must be. Yikes!

      Craft continues to step on his own dong late in games like an 18 year old true FR or something.

      Scott will rightfully continue to sit late in games while his FT shooting resembles that of a blind quadriplegic.

      Ravenel has absolute stone hands at times it seems. He gets position and is right there to grab the orange but alas it always finds away to be bobbled off his hands. Ugh.

      Ross plays as if a sniper in the lower bowl is watching his every move. Has the kid never played in big games before? He is a turnover machine at this point in his career which is not something a struggling offense can overcome every night out so he too will continue to sit until that sh*t gets fixed.

      Glad to LSJ get a slump buster of a game. Hopefully a sign of good things to come and not an aberration.

      State Penn is pretty awful. We should pick up our second B1G road win providing the Buckeye team bus doesn't explode.

      MannekenPis

    • matta is a great coach look at his record and how he develops his players to say he doesnt have a clue is assenine!!!!

      jontriton

    • MannekenPis said...

      I continue to wonder what the Duke, Syracuse, Arizona, Florida and other high major elite coaches saw in Amir Williams that we're not seeing. Yeah, big guys take the longest to develop but he is maddeningly frustrating to watch and has ZERO post moves after a year and half in CBUS and is just about the worst rebounding 7 footer these eyes have ever seen. Unacceptable and I really question how much he truly loves this game to look like he does at this stage in his career. Makes you wonder how bad Trey McDonald must be. Yikes!

      Craft continues to step on his own dong late in games like an 18 year old true FR or something.

      Scott will rightfully continue to sit late in games while his FT shooting resembles that of a blind quadriplegic.

      Ravenel has absolute stone hands at times it seems. He gets position and is right there to grab the orange but alas it always finds away to be bobbled off his hands. Ugh.

      Ross plays as if a sniper in the lower bowl is watching his every move. Has the kid never played in big games before? He is a turnover machine at this point in his career which is not something a struggling offense can overcome every night out so he too will continue to sit until that sh*t gets fixed.

      Glad to LSJ get a slump buster of a game. Hopefully a sign of good things to come and not an aberration.

      State Penn is pretty awful. We should pick up our second B1G road win providing the Buckeye team bus doesn't explode.

      Agree... So I wonder if playing no bench last year leaves some of these younger guys looking to find continuity. We loved last years records and I suggest Thad knows what it takes. But for anyone including me to think, next guy up with a young team, well I look forward to seeing how the team comes together throughout the year but don't expect a similar season as last year. I will just enjoy the development of the team as we prepare for B1G and NCAA and at the same time would be surprised for the team to get past sweet sixteen....

      Beemerx5

    • MannekenPis said...

      I continue to wonder what the Duke, Syracuse, Arizona, Florida and other high major elite coaches saw in Amir Williams that we're not seeing. Yeah, big guys take the longest to develop but he is maddeningly frustrating to watch and has ZERO post moves after a year and half in CBUS and is just about the worst rebounding 7 footer these eyes have ever seen. Unacceptable and I really question how much he truly loves this game to look like he does at this stage in his career. Makes you wonder how bad Trey McDonald must be. Yikes!

      Craft continues to step on his own dong late in games like an 18 year old true FR or something.

      Scott will rightfully continue to sit late in games while his FT shooting resembles that of a blind quadriplegic.

      Ravenel has absolute stone hands at times it seems. He gets position and is right there to grab the orange but alas it always finds away to be bobbled off his hands. Ugh.

      Ross plays as if a sniper in the lower bowl is watching his every move. Has the kid never played in big games before? He is a turnover machine at this point in his career which is not something a struggling offense can overcome every night out so he too will continue to sit until that sh*t gets fixed.

      Glad to LSJ get a slump buster of a game. Hopefully a sign of good things to come and not an aberration.

      State Penn is pretty awful. We should pick up our second B1G road win providing the Buckeye team bus doesn't explode.

      Agree... So I wonder if playing no bench last year leaves some of these younger guys looking to find continuity. We loved last years records and I suggest Thad knows what it takes. But for anyone including me to think, next guy up with a young team, well I look forward to seeing how the team comes together throughout the year but don't expect a similar season as last year. I will just enjoy the development of the team as we prepare for B1G and NCAA and at the same time would be surprised for the team to get past sweet sixteen....

      Beemerx5

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      Buckluver

    • OsuDomin8 said...

      We've given up some big leads this year. It's never over for this squad. Seems we can get up 20 almost as quick as we can lose 20

      +1- Agree. Things got very sloppy. Iowa does better at the FT line and we lose that game. Thad needs to get a deadly shooter to loosen things up. Lots of athletes but I don't see legit outside threats and do you want to put that tag on Thomas our best inside scorer ?

      JohnHicks74

    • I thought I was going to open this article and it was going to say one word.

      Nothing.

      That's what we learned. Absolutely nothing.

      CR2011

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      leolauterbach

    • What we learned is this team is still trying to find themselves along with consistency........but I agree with you CR2011....we learned nothing new that we already know.

      1. Amir is still god awful. no rebounds? his 2 points was on a WIDE OPEN DUNK which is really the only way he scores unless he gets fouled and happens to make some free throws
      2. FT shooting still very suspect, although CRAFT did hit 8-10
      3. This team continues to have mental lapses during the game
      4. Ross can score, he's gaining more confidence but crunch time we need ball handlers
      5. Craft.....6 TO's? some of his passes are just plain bad and uncalled for.
      6. DT is still the freaking man and by the way, teammates of DT........GET HIM THE F'NG BALL WHEN IT IS CRUNCH TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      We should have won this game comfortably.....and amazingly because we were DESTROYED on the offensive boards. Thankfully Iowa is not a good 3 pt shooting team and they decided to suck ass at the FT line last night. I think they said overall they are a 71% FT shooting team which is good.....

      The thing that pissed me off the most is when Iowa kept pressing and for some reason for many minutes our "press break play" was to have Craft and one other person stand there and try to hold off their guy and call for the ball? WHAT THE F IS THAT???? It took Matta about 6 or 7 minutes too long to call a timeout and then actually draw up a press break play where picks are involved and a lot of movement.

      That should be standard.......if a team goes to pressing, immediately go to one fo yoru press break sets. We dribbled too much.....you had Craft and LSJ dribbling around like they were scared for their lives and then guys were dribbling to the worst spots on the floor and picking up their dribble. This IS NOT Louisville bringing the heat...this is Iowa pressing you and creating TO's. 14 of our 17 TO's were in the second half and Iowa capitalized.

      I loved Ross stepping up and scoring more but again, he is careless with the ball and still needs work defensively. So in crunch time Matta needs to sub offense for defense depending on the siutation.....or if it is late in the game get him out and get your ball handlers in there, which he did but again, too late.

      The most freightening thing about that game was when DT went to the locker room and on the floor was: Craft, LSJ, Ravenal, Thompson, (Ross or Scott? I can't remember) but basically I said to myself.......awe fuck, this is going to be our starting 5 next year WITHOUT RAVENAL!?????? That is a horror story in and of itself!!!!!!

      Iowa is not a bad team......they beat Wisky, played IU tough and only lost by like 5...they have some decent bigs. Going to Iowa will be no gimmie......

      I hope this team comes ready to play Saturday.....PSU is bad and with this teams mental capacity to disappear i sure hope Matta and crew do everything they can to make sure this team is focused and ready to play.

      Go Bucks!

      bcroft

    • leolauterbach said...

      This team lacks effort, focus and intensity... They don't bring it every night...

      Here is a question... After Thomas leaves early this year... Who will score points next year? There is absolutely no "go to guy" on this roster as the sophomore class has turned out to be a major disappointment. You think this year is frustrating, just wait until next year... it will be much worse...

      ditto...I just posted that i was frightened when DT went out....that will be our starting 5 (sans Ravenal, insert Williams?)

      Matta is going to have to change up his strategy and we will have to become a pressing, in your face defense that likes to run and score (via fast break points).......our lineup will be small so we will probably have to press and drop back into a zone next year more often or something....who knows. I don't want to think about it anymore......it will be FUGLY

      bcroft

    • jdbucksct said...

      Watching Jent coach during timeouts. Maybe Matta should share some of that $300,000 raise with him since Matta just stands around and has no clue what to do. Poor coaching on the rotations.

      Clock mismanagement at the end running the shot clock down till the only shot left was a prayer.

      Except for Thomas, this team has no chemistry, and many times no clue. Also too many silly fouls at the end causing the clock to stop and putting Iowa at the line.

      Does any of the coaches teach fundamentals or is it a chinese fire drill up and down the court. Really poor execution tonight against a bottom-feeder team.

      Hey now, Thaddy does 1 thing good. He chews a mean wad of gum!! Need to get rid of Gordon Goober and take his side kick politally correct hire Smith with him.

      green12

    • bcroft said...

      What we learned is this team is still trying to find themselves along with consistency........but I agree with you CR2011....we learned nothing new that we already know.

      1. Amir is still god awful. no rebounds? his 2 points was on a WIDE OPEN DUNK which is really the only way he scores unless he gets fouled and happens to make some free throws 2. FT shooting still very suspect, although CRAFT did hit 8-10 3. This team continues to have mental lapses during the game 4. Ross can score, he's gaining more confidence but crunch time we need ball handlers 5. Craft.....6 TO's? some of his passes are just plain bad and uncalled for. 6. DT is still the freaking man and by the way, teammates of DT........GET HIM THE F'NG BALL WHEN IT IS CRUNCH TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      We should have won this game comfortably.....and amazingly because we were DESTROYED on the offensive boards. Thankfully Iowa is not a good 3 pt shooting team and they decided to suck ass at the FT line last night. I think they said overall they are a 71% FT shooting team which is good.....

      The thing that pissed me off the most is when Iowa kept pressing and for some reason for many minutes our "press break play" was to have Craft and one other person stand there and try to hold off their guy and call for the ball? WHAT THE F IS THAT???? It took Matta about 6 or 7 minutes too long to call a timeout and then actually draw up a press break play where picks are involved and a lot of movement.

      That should be standard.......if a team goes to pressing, immediately go to one fo yoru press break sets. We dribbled too much.....you had Craft and LSJ dribbling around like they were scared for their lives and then guys were dribbling to the worst spots on the floor and picking up their dribble. This IS NOT Louisville bringing the heat...this is Iowa pressing you and creating TO's. 14 of our 17 TO's were in the second half and Iowa capitalized.

      I loved Ross stepping up and scoring more but again, he is careless with the ball and still needs work defensively. So in crunch time Matta needs to sub offense for defense depending on the siutation.....or if it is late in the game get him out and get your ball handlers in there, which he did but again, too late.

      The most freightening thing about that game was when DT went to the locker room and on the floor was: Craft, LSJ, Ravenal, Thompson, (Ross or Scott? I can't remember) but basically I said to myself.......awe fuck, this is going to be our starting 5 next year WITHOUT RAVENAL!?????? That is a horror story in and of itself!!!!!!

      Iowa is not a bad team......they beat Wisky, played IU tough and only lost by like 5...they have some decent bigs. Going to Iowa will be no gimmie......

      I hope this team comes ready to play Saturday.....PSU is bad and with this teams mental capacity to disappear i sure hope Matta and crew do everything they can to make sure this team is focused and ready to play.

      Go Bucks!

      I like many of the things that Thad brings to the table but his late game Xs and Os often times leaves A LOT to be desired. There's a fine line between giving player's freedom and them having no clue of what they're supposed to be doing in critical situations. We're seeing way too much of the latter IMO.

      MannekenPis

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