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  • ohiost83 said...

    Bama and Georgia meet in two weeks, guess what, one of them loses. OSU at #3, especially if we close the last month of the season winning at Penn State, at Wisconsin and over Michigan. Nebraska is going to finish 11-2 most likely and off the the Rose Bowl, and we beat them by 25. Central Florida should end 9-3, and we won at top 15 MSU on the road. Still, that is a solid schedule to go 12-0, you have to admit that at some point, especially road wins at MSU, at PSU and at Wisconsin. If SC could upset Notre Dame, we could be at#2 before the bowls start.

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  • Blitzbrick said...

    Love the Bucks but we could not beat Alabama or Georgia this year

    Alabama I'm not sure on but you really think we couldn't beat Georgia? Their defense is just as suspect as ours.

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  • GetYaWeigtUp said...

    Penn State lost to Virginia and OHIO! Michigan struggled with Air Force! Wisconsin struggled with Utah State, UTEP, and Northern Iowa. Nebraska has been the only consistently good team in this conference this year and it shows in the rankings. They've lost 2 games to 2 better teams. But if you want to convince me they are better than Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, LSU, and TAMU, forget it because you can't. They aren't very impressive either.

    Save the "they struggled with" arguments because THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY struggled with Indiana, Purdue, Cal and UAB... I don't see anyone talking about how we struggled with inferior teams. You guys are just talking about the fact that WE WON those games which is all that matters! Don't use the "they struggled and looked bad" argument if you aren't going to do it across the board. There is a reason why the SEC has won 6 straight National Titles... Until they are beaten in big games, no one cares about anything else.

    Born and raised in Ohio and root like hell for the bucks each week while living in Georgia. The big ten is so much worse than the sec and that is the sad truth. I hate it but that is reality

    Blitzbrick

  • That still doesn't mean Georgia or Bama's schedules were very difficult. Look at them. They're not that difficult.

    wojodta

  • you bring those sec teams up here and play in novemer and see how fast they are when they're freezing their asses off. the difference between the sec and the BIG has always been the climate!!

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  • yourbuck said...

    we are NOT going to end up 1 under any circumstances. the ap is not going to put a team on probation whose ineligible for their conf. champ. game and doesn't get tested in a bowl game in the 1 spot. ain't gonna happen. whoever wins the title game will be 1.

    That's right! Weren't we talking about some "delusional" fan bases a while back. Hmmmm....

    buckeyelouey

  • GetYaWeigtUp said...

    Penn State lost to Virginia and OHIO! Michigan struggled with Air Force! Wisconsin struggled with Utah State, UTEP, and Northern Iowa. Nebraska has been the only consistently good team in this conference this year and it shows in the rankings. They've lost 2 games to 2 better teams. But if you want to convince me they are better than Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, LSU, and TAMU, forget it because you can't. They aren't very impressive either.

    Save the "they struggled with" arguments because THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY struggled with Indiana, Purdue, Cal and UAB... I don't see anyone talking about how we struggled with inferior teams. You guys are just talking about the fact that WE WON those games which is all that matters! Don't use the "they struggled and looked bad" argument if you aren't going to do it across the board. There is a reason why the SEC has won 6 straight National Titles... Until they are beaten in big games, no one cares about anything else.

    You're on crack if you think those five SEC teams would just roll in the B1G unscathed. Nothing I've seen of those teams, and I've watched almost every game of theirs this year, even remotely suggests they would simply skate by in the B1G.

    Quit watching Sportscenter and actually WATCH the games. You can't convince me Wisconsin, Michigan, Nebraska, and Penn State wouldn't give those teams all they could handle and beat some of them.

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  • jc44 said...

    you bring those sec teams up here and play in novemer and see how fast they are when they're freezing their asses off. the difference between the sec and the BIG has always been the climate!!

    So why didn't they dominate back in the 60s, 70s, 80s??? They just started this dominance over the last 10 years... The weather has been the same since the beginning of time. How about they have better players? Why do you think Urban is recruiting more nationally than in OHIO? And he is an OHIO Boy! The big difference is in the trenches. Their DL and LBs are more athletic... The game is a lot easier when you can dominate the LOS. They lack in QB play though... Weather has nothing to do with it. It's not making much of a difference in the NFL!

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  • Systems_id said...

    You're on crack if you think those five SEC teams would just roll in the B1G unscathed. Nothing I've seen of those teams, and I've watched almost every game of theirs this year, even remotely suggests they would simply skate by in the B1G.

    Quit watching Sportscenter and actually WATCH the games. You can't convince me Wisconsin, Michigan, Nebraska, and Penn State wouldn't give those teams all they could handle and beat some of them.

    Exactly.

    The SEC is the best conference this year because they have a lot of good teams. None of them are great, and though their top 5 teams (Alabama, A&M, Florida, Georgia, LSU) would all have a shot at winning the Big Ten, they would all have close games that they could potentially lose. It's not like they'd roll through our five best teams with an average winning margin of 20 points a game.

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  • Systems_id said...

    You're on crack if you think those five SEC teams would just roll in the B1G unscathed. Nothing I've seen of those teams, and I've watched almost every game of theirs this year, even remotely suggests they would simply skate by in the B1G.

    Quit watching Sportscenter and actually WATCH the games. You can't convince me Wisconsin, Michigan, Nebraska, and Penn State wouldn't give those teams all they could handle and beat some of them.

    Penn State would beat LSU but lose to Virgina? Wisconsin can't beat and almost get shutout by Oregon State but they can beat Florida? Michigan needs a last minute stop at HOME to beat Air Force but they could beat Georgia? Get over it... this conference is ASS and you know it. Stop hyping up below average teams just because you hate the SEC. Every team has bad weeks where they don't play well and don't look sexy but if you think that those pathetic Big Ten teams could go into the SEC and win games you're either deaf, blind or plum dumb. Michigan in the SEC would be no better than Mississippi State... Beating bad teams and getting housed by the good teams. Imagine Wisconsin in the SEC lol... They'd beat the lower tier SEC teams for most part. I respect quality football... I'm not a hater. I watch all the games every week for the most part and this race isn't even close.

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  • I don't think anyone's saying the B1G is close to the SEC. SEC is still the best conference obviously. The point is that some of those teams are overrated and played horrible schedules. I'm looking at you Georgia.

    wojodta

  • drmiller166 said...

    Exactly.

    The SEC is the best conference this year because they have a lot of good teams. None of them are great, and though their top 5 teams (Alabama, A&M, Florida, Georgia, LSU) would all have a shot at winning the Big Ten, they would all have close games that they could potentially lose. It's not like they'd roll through our five best teams with an average winning margin of 20 points a game.

    Well considering their best played our 3rd best at a neutral Stadium and beat them 41-14... That same team who everyone thinks isn't as good as they thought absolutely demolished what many thought was the best the B1G had to offer. That loss was embarrassing to this conference. We can go back and forth about who looks like they would beat who, but the fact is... That conference has 5 really strong teams. This conference has 1.5... Nebraska is kinda strong but we housed them too badly for me to take them seriously.

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  • GetYaWeigtUp said...

    Georgia beat the dog shit out of Florida who is better than any team we've faced all year... Just kill the HATE for a second and come to the realization that we have played a schedule like the 2011 scUM wolverines. It sucks but it's true! Georgia, Florida, and LSU would all win this conference going away... South Carolina and Texas A&M are more talented than anyone in this conference with maybe the exception of OSU as well. Tell me a Big10 roster you would take over any of those schools. That's just it, you can't. We'll see when the bowl games roll around and all the SEC teams house the Big10 teams they play.

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    olref129665

  • All conferences suck except for a couple of teams from each one. Too many members of the media get worked up about the sec. No way we should be behind anyone. We should be number one or two at the lowest.

    davebucknut ●

  • Didn't Florida barely skate by Louisiana and Missouri the week before? There is a lot of parity in college football and I do think if you ever saw an SEC team play in Wisconsin or TSUN or Minnesota or Ohio in November it would make a difference...with that being said the SEC is the best conference but I think they would take their lumps as well...

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  • gessig said...

    With all the college football mathematicians crunching numbers...Does Ohio State really pass the "eye test" as national champion contender?..

    Does Notre Dame? Heck, i was at the BYU game where they should have lost and Pitt missed a short field goal to win it. And they needed help against Stanford on their tying drive.

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  • GetYaWeigtUp said...

    Penn State would beat LSU but lose to Virgina? Wisconsin can't beat and almost get shutout by Oregon State but they can beat Florida? Michigan needs a last minute stop at HOME to beat Air Force but they could beat Georgia? Get over it... this conference is ASS and you know it. Stop hyping up below average teams just because you hate the SEC. Every team has bad weeks where they don't play well and don't look sexy but if you think that those pathetic Big Ten teams could go into the SEC and win games you're either deaf, blind or plum dumb. Michigan in the SEC would be no better than Mississippi State... Beating bad teams and getting housed by the good teams. Imagine Wisconsin in the SEC lol... They'd beat the lower tier SEC teams for most part. I respect quality football... I'm not a hater. I watch all the games every week for the most part and this race isn't even close.

    LSU can barely get by Towson but they'd sleepwalk to a double digit win in happy valley? Florida needs a last second punt block to escape ULL AT HOME and struggle with BGSU, but would stroll through @Madison, @Happy Valley, @Columbus without blinking an eye? South Carolina looked to have met their match with Wofford this week. Louisiana Monroe made a laughing stock of both Auburn and Arkansas. Vanderbilt, which has been holding its own, can't beat Northwestern. Alabama got dominated at home by a middle of the pack Big12 team. That same middle of the pack Big12 team hasn't lost a single road game in the SEC this year.

    The truth is your little comparison game can be played both ways. Outside of the top 1 or 2 teams in each conference, CFB sucks this year, and the SEC was not immune to this.

    This post was edited by marketman on 11/18/2012 at 1:07 PM

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  • Systems_id said...

    Horseshit.

    Florida has struggled WAY too many times with inferior opponents for me to think that a Michigan, Nebraska, Wisconsin, or even a Penn State wouldn't be able to knock them off. Same with South Carolina, LSU, and Georgia. Alabama looked god tier until they had to play LSU and A&M back to back weeks. The SEC is far closer to the B1G than most would like to admit.

    Florida very nearly lost to Temple. Or was it UL-L? It was a crappy, crappy, crappy team.

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  • marketman said...

    LSU can barely get by Towson but they'd sleepwalk to a double digit win in happy valley? Florida needs a last second punt block to escape LAL AT HOME and struggle with BGSU, but would stroll through @Madison, @Happy Valley, @Columbus without blinking an eye? South Carolina looked to have met their match with Wofford this week. Louisiana Monroe made a laughing stock of both Auburn and Arkansas. Vanderbilt, which has been holding its own, can't beat Northwestern. Alabama got dominated at home by a middle of the pack Big12 team.

    The truth is your little comparison game can be played both ways. Outside of the top 1 or 2 teams in each conference, CFB sucks this year, and the SEC was not immune to this.

    College football doesn't suck, there is something called parity... Something we aren't used to. Tell me what BigTen rosters you would take over Florida, Georgia, LSU, SC, and TAMU... Ohio State and who else? I can't think of 1... Yea those teams struggled but that happens all the time when you play teams you should blow out. We come here and bitch about our team after every game. Fire Fickell, the defense sucks, play Guiton more... we've struggle vs a lot of inferior teams over the last few years. Teams play down to their competition quite often. I don't get too hype about that... I care more about how teams play against good competition. That's more of an indication of how good they are unless they just keep losing games.

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  • Coa said...

    @AP_Top25: New AP Top 25: Notre Dame unanimous No. 1. No. 2 Alabama. No. 3 Georgia. No. 4 Ohio State. No. 5 Oregon.

    I find this extremely shocking.

    How is it during our bye week Georgia passes us but then this week Oregon falls behind us????

    Either way you slice it, I'm happy I guess. There's a sliver of hope for us, we need to beat Michigan first and foremost, have ND AND Alabama lose and for Georgia to lose to Oregon in the National title game.

    I think when the voters sit down for the final time that if faced with an undefeated Buckeyes team vs. a 1 loss Oregon team that we would be favored and get atleast 31 of the 60 votes needed to get it. Slim chance, however a chance nonetheless.

    ruckerp

  • GetYaWeigtUp said...

    College football doesn't suck, there is something called parity... Something we aren't used to. Tell me what BigTen rosters you would take over Florida, Georgia, LSU, SC, and TAMU... Ohio State and who else? I can't think of 1... Yea those teams struggled but that happens all the time when you play teams you should blow out. We come here and bitch about our team after every game. Fire Fickell, the defense sucks, play Guiton more... we've struggle vs a lot of inferior teams over the last few years. Teams play down to their competition quite often. I don't get too hype about that... I care more about how teams play against good competition. That's more of an indication of how good they are unless they just keep losing games.

    The problem is you give the SEC teams a pass for struggling but not anyone else. Honestly, I wouldn't take a single team in the country over all those teams. That's not the point. Even Alabama wouldn't beat ALL of those teams. But LSU might drop a game at Madison. Florida might drop a game at HV. To think each one of those teams would stroll through undefeated is absurd. Those are all 2 loss SEC teams by the end of the year. I see them being 1-2 loss Big10 teams as well. none of those teams would be guaranteed to stroll through all the away venues undefeated. ALA would have been the only one. on top of that, each of those teams would lose their extra bye weeks against directional schools (some that were even lost this year) and most would end up scheduling a marquee OOC game. When the season started, nobody was even taking TAMU (big 12 school *cough*) over any of those other teams. Yet somehow they have gone in to the SEC and have yet to lose on the road---dominating a team that "would have beat an NFL team" the week before.

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  • GetYaWeigtUp said...

    Georgia beat the dog shit out of Florida who is better than any team we've faced all year... Just kill the HATE for a second and come to the realization that we have played a schedule like the 2011 scUM wolverines. It sucks but it's true! Georgia, Florida, and LSU would all win this conference going away... South Carolina and Texas A&M are more talented than anyone in this conference with maybe the exception of OSU as well. Tell me a Big10 roster you would take over any of those schools. That's just it, you can't. We'll see when the bowl games roll around and all the SEC teams house the Big10 teams they play.

    My biggest complaint is some of the reasoning behind the rankings. I don't truly believe many people think ND is the best team in the nation, but they are #1 because they haven't lost. Either vote based on where you think teams should be ranked or where their record should have them ranked. Right now we have a combination of that, which makes the whole poll useless IMO. twocents

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