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Barker Future Buckeye QB?

  • http://ohiostate.247sports.com/Article/Barker-Future-Buckeye-QB-71318

    2014 quarterback Drew Barker visited Ohio State twice last week including attending the Buckeyes’ spring game on Saturday. Is Barker destined to end up at OSU?

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  • I hope he camps too and I have no doubt he will. I think this is a great fit for him. As a QB you are only a coner back blitz away from playing and wherever he goes he will be against solid competition.

    3296woody

  • I have a feeling Miller and Barrett might scare away big time QB commits for awhile. Unless those recruits come in with the mindset that there's a good possibility they don't see the field for awhile. Doesn't happen as much these days, there are more transfers now than ever before cause everybody who's highly recruited wants to play immediately.

    This post was edited by NJJ0711 on 4/24/2012 at 7:28 AM

    NJJ0711

  • I like him for the 2014 class. I hope his junior year he doubles his passing yards. He has more yards rushing than passing in his sophmore season.
    Is that a good thing or a bad thing???

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  • NJJ0711 said...

    I have a feeling Miller and Barrett might scare away big time QB commits for awhile. Unless those recruits come in with the mindset that there's a good possibility they don't see the field for awhile. Doesn't happen as much these days, there are more transfers now than ever before cause everybody who's highly recruited wants to play immediately.

    Not in the least...

    2014 will be Braxton's senior season. Thats means Barker would have one season to get the system before getting an opportunity to compete with Barrett and Jones.

    Technically, the 2014 QB's are in the best position to compete and have a long career.

    This is the primary reason why I didn't think we needed to recruit another QB in this class. I understand the staff is telling Trubisky we are. I just don't think its necessary. But the staff likely knows something we don't. Like, maybe, a potential transfer.

    Regardless, Miller and Barrett shouldn't scare away any 2014 QB's. If I'm a QB in the 2014 class, I would be excited to come to OSU. Because there is a huge possibility to compete and get a starting spot right away.

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  • I think taking a second QB for this class shows how little depth we have. You legitimately need 3 guys who can step in and play. We have 2. Jones has to RS. That would enable the staff to possibly even RS either Barrett or Trubisky and then it's on when Guiton leaves and in case Brax does leave early too.

    BuckeyeSteves

  • BuckeyeSteves said...

    I think taking a second QB for this class shows how little depth we have. You legitimately need 3 guys who can step in and play. We have 2. Jones has to RS. That would enable the staff to possibly even RS either Barrett or Trubisky and then it's on when Guiton leaves and in case Brax does leave early too.

    2012 is what it is and recruiting anyone won't change that. So, with that in mind, as it stands now:

    2012: Brax, Guiton, Jones (RS)
    2013: Brax, Guiton, Jones, Barrett (poss RS)
    2014: Brax, Jones, Barrett, (2014 recruit)
    2015: Jones, Barrett, (2014 recruit), (2015 recruit)
    etc...

    Using your own logic, only recruiting one in this class, one in next class, and so on, we maintain that requirement of yours of having 3 guys who can step in every year. More importantly, the depth is spread out.

    Keep in mind everyone, from now on, scholarships are guaranteed for 4 years. Depth management will be more of an issue than ever. We can't have logjams. We can't overload one spot.

    With that in mind, we can recruit another QB for 2013 and bring in one in 2014. But that would mean going into the 2014 season with 5 QB's on the roster and 80% of them are underclassmen. That means we'll have created a logjam. If we bring in a 2015 QB, then we'll have 5 going into 2015 as well. All five competing for a spot. And once again, 80% of them will be underclassmen. Jones will be a Junior (assuming he redshirts this season).

    So when you guys talk about depth, you need to understand how depth impacts roster management. If these kids decide that they want to stay here even if they don't win the job, then we'll have to do without recruiting QB's for a couple years as a result. This creates a gap now in depth and will impact depth moving forward. Before you know it, we'll have created the exact same thing at QB that Bollman did with the OL where we can't seem to manage our depth. Bollman's inability to manage his roster ended up forcing us at times to take OL and at some times be selective and pass up on kids we should have offered.

    I've followed this for years. When you talk about depth, you are also talking about roster management. On the surface, everyone is "feed me now" and they don't think about future impacts. Failing to do so can seriously impact our future prospects.

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  • I agree i personally would stand pat with what we have now and sign one more for next year unless you have no faith at all in jones

    davebucknut

  • davebucknut said...

    I agree i personally would stand pat with what we have now and sign one more for next year unless you have no faith at all in jones

    I think thats the kicker. Jones' tweets leave me with an ominous feeling about his future. He may be on the way out. If that is the case, then obviously bringing in another QB like Trubisky is a good move.

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  • Barker just doesn't impress me on his film yet. He is a "good runner," more tebowish than Miller or JT, and if you watch it, he rarely drops back and and just lets it go. Everything is scramble around and improve. Now... thats a not a bad thing because it shows he is a playmaker but it appears that he doesnt see open WRs with his initial drop. Kid could end up being great but I don't know if I like him better than Kizer or Crest, AT THIS POINT! They still have 2 more years to ball so he could very well change my mind and turn me into a believer. I still like Trubisky better but he is also a year older... He isn't quite as good of a runner as Barker but he throws it much better imo.

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  • playmea said...

    Not in the least...

    2014 will be Braxton's senior season. Thats means Barker would have one season to get the system before getting an opportunity to compete with Barrett and Jones.

    Technically, the 2014 QB's are in the best position to compete and have a long career.

    This is the primary reason why I didn't think we needed to recruit another QB in this class. I understand the staff is telling Trubisky we are. I just don't think its necessary. But the staff likely knows something we don't. Like, maybe, a potential transfer.

    Regardless, Miller and Barrett shouldn't scare away any 2014 QB's. If I'm a QB in the 2014 class, I would be excited to come to OSU. Because there is a huge possibility to compete and get a starting spot right away.

    Eh....I see your point, play, but not sure the youngsters coming up -or their parents will see it the same way.

    We had similar arguments when recruiting QBs when Pryor had announced - or had one year under his belt -- and they stayed away as if they had seen a ghost at the WHAC. See Tajh Boyd at Clemson just as one example. I am hoping you are right...but as someone posted, there is one common thread in these kids...and that is the desire to play ASAP.

    As fans, we bristle at the thought of a kid 'being afraid to compete'. Easy for us to say. Hey I hope you are right....but we have read this book before.

    This post was edited by Nutinpa on 4/24/2012 at 8:42 AM

    Nutinpa

  • Nutinpa said...

    Eh....I see your point, play, but not sure the youngsters coming up -or their parents will see it the same way.

    We had similar arguments when recruiting QBs when Pryor had announced - or had one year under his belt -- and they stayed away as if they had seen a ghost at the WHAC. I am hoping you are right...but as someone posted, there is one common thread in these kids...and that is the desire to play ASAP.

    As fans, we bristle at the thought of a kid 'being afraid to compete'. Easy for us to say. Hey I hope you are right....but we have read this book before.

    The difference with Pryor was he became the "Franchise" from day one. After a couple games in he's named the starter over a guy who took us to the NC the previous season. So of course parents and SA's are seeing that as a waste of time.

    Brax will be two seasons in after 2012. 2014 will be his senior. Brax is absolutely ZERO threat to a 2014 QB. Therefore, you're only worried about the other QB's for competition. That reality will be the case at ANY school who recruits you. It doesn't matter if its tOSU, USC, AL or some FCS school.

    Now if the kid is afraid of the level of competition at tOSU, then we need not be concerned. Because they were destined to fail here anyway and we will be fortunate to have them look elsewhere.

    All anybody can ever ask for is an opportunity to compete for a spot. tOSU will offer that to 2014 QB's.

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  • Looks like the spot will come down to Barker and Crest with Kiser going to scUM.

    AlphaBuckeye06

  • AlphaBuckeye06 said...

    Looks like the spot will come down to Barker and Crest with Kiser going to scUM.

    Kizer committed to scUM?

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  • Henderson is my guy for 2014.

    Doc

  • GetYaWeigtUp said...

    Kizer committed to scUM?

    Nope but it's trending that way. He came out and said his family were all scUM fans and it looks like we have been going after Crest/Barker a lot more then Kizer

    AlphaBuckeye06

  • AlphaBuckeye06 said...

    Nope but it's trending that way. He came out and said his family were all scUM fans and it looks like we have been going after Crest/Barker a lot more then Kizer

    Gotcha... who do you like more, Crest or Barker?

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  • GetYaWeigtUp said...

    Gotcha... who do you like more, Crest or Barker?

    Barker right now but the staff actually offering Crest have me thinking I may should like him more.

    AlphaBuckeye06

  • I completely agree with the importance of managing your recruiting as excellently outlined above. However there are two variables of which we cannot be sure (and perhaps the Staff is more sure of at present) that alter the recruitment of QBs over the next 12 months. 1. The status of Jones in regards to can he ever start for us and does he have the patience to wait his turn. 2. Will Braxton be here two or three more years. While I think he could be positioned to leave after 2013 I don't think he will but if the Staff feels differently this impacts when we bring in another QB. If both of these variables were to come into play then I can see why we bring in another QB this year.

    dbuckeye44

  • dbuckeye44 said...

    I completely agree with the importance of managing your recruiting as excellently outlined above. However there are two variables of which we cannot be sure (and perhaps the Staff is more sure of at present) that alter the recruitment of QBs over the next 12 months. 1. The status of Jones in regards to can he ever start for us and does he have the patience to wait his turn. 2. Will Braxton be here two or three more years. While I think he could be positioned to leave after 2013 I don't think he will but if the Staff feels differently this impacts when we bring in another QB. If both of these variables were to come into play then I can see why we bring in another QB this year.

    The dynamics are always changing.

    But since we are talking about the present, we can only discuss what we know now.

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  • AlphaBuckeye06 said...

    Barker right now but the staff actually offering Crest have me thinking I may should like him more.

    We are on the same page so far. I like Crest better... he made some nice throws from the pocket and kept some plays alive with his feet like Barker did but Barker just scrambles so much it kind of worries me that he isn't reading the defense well right now. All of them will get better and make improvements though, they are only sophs.

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  • Why anyone would want an autograph is beyond me, but from a sophomore in high school flat out baffles me.

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