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Big Ten Recruiting: A Detailed Look

  • GO2hellBLUE said...

    Bucknuts, this is the second article today that you have called Eli Woodard Eli Appel. I have to correct you on this one. Buckrock I might as well pick on you too. The SEC is very aggressive compared to the SEC? Also to name three of the best recruiters, Urban, Chip,Lane, and Sabin? I never was the best at math, but.....

    We're sorry you haven't kept up on current events and that happens. But if you're gonna throw rocks, well...glass houses and all.

    But it's all good, we ALL love your handle, we ALL think michigan sucks too!

    les

  • buckalum said...

    Nebraska needs to find a recruiting identity. Find your key locations and focus heavy with better recruiting. Hitting states like Ohio is a waste of time imo. OSU will always get the top talent and you cannot be elite with leftovers. Those players go to MSU and IL.

    UN (not NU) needs to focus more on Texas, Mizz, KS, CO, AZ, etc. Get 4 stars from those states where there is less competition for players or simply more talent (ie Texas). UN should be able to pull players from AZ, Mizz and CO without much resistance. They should also be able to pull a few gems from Texas and Florida.

    The UN staff is simply not getting it done on the recruiting front. By the way, Pelini needs to fire his defensive coordinator. Too lazy to look it up but how many points did they give up on average against top level competition? I know between OSU, Wisky and UGA they gave up almost an average of 60. Ouch! You can't win big games playing piss poor defense. Black Shirts? Yellow Shirts maybe.

    Dead on , they gave up 27.5 pts per game and you know the Black Shirts of old are wondering what's up. They were close to being a real mediocre team. 4 games were won by 6, 4, 3, and 1 pt. but they were blown out by 3 teams. And everyone thought that they would make the Big 10 tougher, but to do this they need to play tougher defense.

    les

  • Dave Biddle said...

    I actually thought the Big Ten fared well in the bowls, relatively-speaking. They were underdogs in six of the seven games (initially were underdogs in all seven but Northwestern became a slight favorite the day before the game) and were heavy underdogs in many of them, but ended up 2-5. That in itself is no embarrassment. Then you factor in that every team in the conference was playing "two spots up" due to the absence of Ohio State and Penn State ... and I think the Big Ten did as well as I could have expected in the bowls.

    This story is much more big-picture. I actually started writing it before yesterday's bowl games.

    Agreed! Plus factor in he fact that almost every game was played in our opponents back yard.

    westm41

  • Yeah that's BS that the SEC always gets to play down in Florida, Georgia, or Louisiana.

    wojodta

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    GO2hellBLUE

  • kelly7038 said...

    If you have a lot of linemen with no one to throw to like in the Michigan class it will not matter much how good the QB is. I always believe that a good line coach (I think Bucks currently have a great line coach) can teach a lineman that wants to learn and work at it to be better than average. That does not mean that a coach should not try to get the best lineman he can, just that you can take someone that has talent and fit the bill and teach them. A team that is lacking talent and speed at skill positions with will not last in the long haul no matter how many good lineman you have.

    Can never have enough linemen on both sides of the ball. The close games are one in the trenches!

    green12

  • Dave Biddle said...

    I actually thought the Big Ten fared well in the bowls, relatively-speaking. They were underdogs in six of the seven games (initially were underdogs in all seven but Northwestern became a slight favorite the day before the game) and were heavy underdogs in many of them, but ended up 2-5. That in itself is no embarrassment. Then you factor in that every team in the conference was playing "two spots up" due to the absence of Ohio State and Penn State ... and I think the Big Ten did as well as I could have expected in the bowls.

    This story is much more big-picture. I actually started writing it before yesterday's bowl games.

    I can see your point about the B1G should get some slack again this year. However, "a win, is a win, is a win" no matter how ugly, it's all that matters. "Moral victories"? They don't care about those down here.

    Down here, all I will hear is the Big 10 bowl record and Ohio State is only good because they have no competition. It's reality. I live it.

    EDIT: The Buckeyes, especially with Meyer, carries big time respect. UGA fans know better than to talk too much smack.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by AtlantaBuck on 1/2/2013 at 3:02 PM

    AtlantaBuck

  • I honestly don't care what any team after tOSU, scUM, PSU and UN do every year. If those 4 teams simply pulled their weight no one would ever have squat to say about the BIG. Period.

    Think about it. Had UN and scUM won their Bowl games would anyone have said a word about the BIG even if you take away MSU's win? No. People remember what the top teams from each conference do on the National scale.

    OSU by and large has done their fair share. They have taken some lumps from that UF loss in '06 but aside from that, OSU is doing it's job. scUM looks to be making strides but I do not think they are as close as their fans think. Regardless they are improving from the RR years. PSU has 4 more years of a Bowl Ban but should bounce back. Hell if they just locked up their own state they would have a top 5-10 class this year (Williams, Foster, Johnson, Kugler, Anzalone). Those are all PA kids that are not only not playing at PSU but are not playing in the BIG either minus Kugler. UN is a wreck imo. They are simply not recruiting at a high enough level to be leaned upon as an elite in this conference and that is a must.

    All the BIG needs is for the big 4 to take care of business an no one else will care what happens around the rest of the conference. I think long term PSU will be fine but I have no idea what direction UN will go.

    buckalum

  • I've been trying to put something together in my head (very little room in there!) on recruiting in BIG. You made it so I can stop stressing my pee sized brain, thanks! DAVE. DA. MAN!

    B rad

  • zvilleweslhnter said...

    I'm surprised PeeSU is doing that well; and the Little Green Men aren't doing better.

    Good article.

    Those were my two biggest surprises as well. Penn State's recruiting is indeed far better than I anticipated and Dantonio's recruiting at MSU is shockingly poor considering all his contacts in the fertile Ohio recruiting fields.

    dominus

  • Good point on Minny. Holthsz and Mason proved a team with weak football demographics could field good teams. Mason especially went beyond the region to recruit, and always was in Ohio . Minny has great teams in wrestling, men and womens hockey, baseball, basketball,and other sports are competitive. No reason football cant be on par with Wisky and Brasky. Show the cash,get the coach. Simple.

    olref129665

  • BuckeyeKeg said...

    Don't follow recruiting to much but after reading that article I have to ask...

    Is this a trend ?

    Not really impressed with Michigan's class...Seems over loaded with offensive lineman....

    +1 agree. I like OL recruiting but this is top heavy. Wonder if big mouth "blood letter" Kyle Kalis likes competition. He sure as heck didn't open that many eyes as he could not make the two-deep.

    JohnHicks74

  • Dave, Nice article. Like those who speak the truth. Here are a few tidbits-Latham will begin career on DL for Indiana.IMO lacks explosiveness to play DL at next level & will move to OL....he must get tougher to succeed. Their are mixed opinions on the abilities of scUM recruits Poggi & Tillman. Nebraska very average class & their headliner Juco transfer DE Randy Gregory may end up back at Az Western next year because of grades.

    BuckeyeWarrior

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