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yakman said...
I know more about the man than probably 99% of you. I'm not saying people can't say what they feel, but I refuse to reduce him to what he's been reduced to. Yeah, he lied. He lied and protected SEVERAL kids, not just Pryor. Pryor is his own man and nobody could have stopped Pryor from doing what he was doing...maybe they could have slapped him upside the head a bit, suspended him, maybe..but he would have still done all that. I think the southern thing is a viable argument. You have to consider the rest of the profession when judging someone within it. Tressel is such a saint compared to nearly everyone else.
Really tired of hearing people say things like "Can't believe you can't see it"...I'm not talking to you directly, Bbuckorbegone, I'm talking to the masses. I see it all. I knew about this stuff before 99% of you did and yet it still didn't change my opinion of him. If I told everyone everything I know about OSU then hell would erupt and destroy all that's good in the world. Yet, I still overwhelmingly see the positives. I'm not happy this all happened and believe me I am not happy Tressel let this go on but I also know the details and I have formed an honest opinion.
Not being cocky, don't think I am. I'm just very lucky and privileged to be in my family and I can hear things people don't normally hear.
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Bdigitty said...
Wow what an honor it must be to be from NE Ohio and have family ties, I'd go around bragging about that right now too. At least say that your disappointed in ME not hide behind broad brush stroke statements. Take some ownership man! That's OK Tress didn't own it either and look where we are now!
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playmea said...
Man I was right there with you on the different kinds of fans. But who are you talking about with the JT thing and what are they saying? I didn't think anybody was saying anything THAT bad?
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Bdigitty said...
Wow what an honor it must be to be from NE Ohio and have family ties, I'd go around bragging about that right now too. At least say that your disappointed in ME not hide behind broad brush stroke statements. Take some ownership man! That's OK Tress didn't own it either and look where we are now!
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Alumnut said...
I'm questioning that because you're manifesting the type of behavior that you're condemning. Doesn't make you a d***, but it definitely smacks of elitism. I gather and understand that you're a "friend of the program" and respect that you've displayed that you're a good fan with your posts on here.
However, I DO think that your closeness has resulted in an intolerance for opinions, especially considering that others aren't privy to the same info as you, or maybe even different info. I really want to throw out the STFU at other posters pretty often too, but I can also recognize an emotional, maybe I'll regret this one in the future post when I see one. (I've been there myself)
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Scherzo said...
Yakman, I hear what you're saying but don't waste the energy getting so upset.
There is a very small but vocal portion of the fanbase that never liked Tressel. His neatly parted hair and sweatervest embarrassed them. The values found in the "Winners Manual" threatened them. Who can blame them, they have been taught by modern progressive society that all of the ills of the world have been caused by guys just like JT. So they hated him, but in secret, because they knew it best served them to suppress the rage......until the right moment. Now you're seeing a decade of resentment and hate emanating from a small wedge of the fanbase. Of course it's irrational and self-serving, these people are miserable in general, basically just as you describe.
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yakman said...
I'm merely coughing up the flem, like I said in another post, and putting up my fists a bit, finally. Doesn't matter how close I am to things, I'm just a bystander like the rest of you that wanted to show some emotion in this gang fight we're witnessing. Too many have been very disrespectful. I may be inducing some type of negative behavior but in my case it's about shoving back a bit. I've sat here reading how people that still like Tressel are "sheep", we're irrational, we're drinking the Kool-aid, etc...that's really offensive to me (but come on, we're on the internet talking with strangers so I'm not gonna get too carried away) so I punched back. It's really interesting to see this unfold. I knew what I was doing. Once a shove was made back to these silly people, I knew what the response would be and the ones that are the biggest problem posted in this thread, including one really loony phone salesmen that a few people seem to like for some reason. The irony is these same people that have preached and preached on how we are supposed to think with the Tressel situation threw up when they read my post because I dared to voice my own opinion. Really sad, if you ask me.
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boxley said...
BBucksorBeGone8
Yeah, I got your point. Laughed at myself there
I was a little over the top today. Just venting too.
i guess I cannot understand all the "hate" being spewed about something that has happend, as if the reiteration of it will somehow be more important now.
I was hugely shocked when this began unfolding in December. It has been a very long six months since then, but it seems as if we are eating our own on the boards, dredging up what is done and unchangable, as if our voiceing our feelings over the events will make them different or change them.
It will not.
It is however frustrating to have the same people come on the boards that are supposed to be fans of tOSU and all that entails, and yet keep on "hatin".
What positive good does that do. How does"Tressel lied" commentary contribute to supporting the bucks now?
The continued trashing of what has occurred does not contribute anything positive to this site or the program.
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