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Bucknuts - Mr. Hyde is back

  • yakman said...

    I know more about the man than probably 99% of you. I'm not saying people can't say what they feel, but I refuse to reduce him to what he's been reduced to. Yeah, he lied. He lied and protected SEVERAL kids, not just Pryor. Pryor is his own man and nobody could have stopped Pryor from doing what he was doing...maybe they could have slapped him upside the head a bit, suspended him, maybe..but he would have still done all that. I think the southern thing is a viable argument. You have to consider the rest of the profession when judging someone within it. Tressel is such a saint compared to nearly everyone else.

    Really tired of hearing people say things like "Can't believe you can't see it"...I'm not talking to you directly, Bbuckorbegone, I'm talking to the masses. I see it all. I knew about this stuff before 99% of you did and yet it still didn't change my opinion of him. If I told everyone everything I know about OSU then hell would erupt and destroy all that's good in the world. Yet, I still overwhelmingly see the positives. I'm not happy this all happened and believe me I am not happy Tressel let this go on but I also know the details and I have formed an honest opinion.

    Not being cocky, don't think I am. I'm just very lucky and privileged to be in my family and I can hear things people don't normally hear.

    Wow what an honor it must be to be from NE Ohio and have family ties, I'd go around bragging about that right now too. At least say that your disappointed in ME not hide behind broad brush stroke statements. Take some ownership man! That's OK Tress didn't own it either and look where we are now!

    Bdigitty

  • Bdigitty said...

    Wow what an honor it must be to be from NE Ohio and have family ties, I'd go around bragging about that right now too. At least say that your disappointed in ME not hide behind broad brush stroke statements. Take some ownership man! That's OK Tress didn't own it either and look where we are now!

    Wasn't bragging, dude. just reasoning a bit. The more you bash, the dumber you look.

    yakman

  • Double Post. Whoops.

    This post was edited by Alumnut on 6/14/2011 at 12:03 PM

    Alumnut

  • I am not sure why people who now refuse to believe all the things Tressel stood for (or gave the impression he stood for) are haters! Can we not voice our displeasure in the fact he lied , covered up and knowingly tried to hide what was going on? You think if all this stuff is never found out he writes about it in a book someday? No he was playing the game. Are we no longer fans unless we continue to buy into the myth that was once Jim Tressel? Look I never wanted him replaced, gone or fired for all the conservative and boring offenses we ran and I loved the guy but if my displeasure in what I thought I knew and not being sad that he was replaced is me hating... well consider me riding shotgun with Alpha!!!

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  • yakman said...

    Yes, I am a far better fan than the people I'm writing about. Not sure why that would even be questioned. Doesn't make me a d*** either. Just the facts.

    I'm questioning that because you're manifesting the type of behavior that you're condemning. Doesn't make you a d***, but it definitely smacks of elitism. I gather and understand that you're a "friend of the program" and respect that you've displayed that you're a good fan with your posts on here.

    However, I DO think that your closeness has resulted in an intolerance for opinions, especially considering that others aren't privy to the same info as you, or maybe even different info. I really want to throw out the STFU at other posters pretty often too, but I can also recognize an emotional, maybe I'll regret this one in the future post when I see one. (I've been there myself)

    Alumnut

  • playmea said...

    Man I was right there with you on the different kinds of fans. But who are you talking about with the JT thing and what are they saying? I didn't think anybody was saying anything THAT bad?

    There aren't just different kind of fans.

    They are different kind of people, we all have met them. There are people who live their lives one way and how they interact with all others, and thier are those who interact and live their lives in a compltely other manner...

    Who seems to be happier and more positive about life, those who only see that half empty glass, and the long line in front of them, or those who try to use every event in life as a reason to grow and learn.

    “Whenever the government fears the people, there is liberty; When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.” – Thomas Jefferson

    boxley

  • Bdigitty said...

    Wow what an honor it must be to be from NE Ohio and have family ties, I'd go around bragging about that right now too. At least say that your disappointed in ME not hide behind broad brush stroke statements. Take some ownership man! That's OK Tress didn't own it either and look where we are now!

    Hater!!!

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  • yakman said...

    Wasn't bragging, dude. just reasoning a bit. The more you bash, the dumber you look.

    Exactly.. see , whom to listen too, and whom to ignore, makes life easier .

    “Whenever the government fears the people, there is liberty; When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.” – Thomas Jefferson

    boxley

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  • Alumnut said...

    I'm questioning that because you're manifesting the type of behavior that you're condemning. Doesn't make you a d***, but it definitely smacks of elitism. I gather and understand that you're a "friend of the program" and respect that you've displayed that you're a good fan with your posts on here.

    However, I DO think that your closeness has resulted in an intolerance for opinions, especially considering that others aren't privy to the same info as you, or maybe even different info. I really want to throw out the STFU at other posters pretty often too, but I can also recognize an emotional, maybe I'll regret this one in the future post when I see one. (I've been there myself)

    I'm merely coughing up the flem, like I said in another post, and putting up my fists a bit, finally. Doesn't matter how close I am to things, I'm just a bystander like the rest of you that wanted to show some emotion in this gang fight we're witnessing. Too many have been very disrespectful. I may be inducing some type of negative behavior but in my case it's about shoving back a bit. I've sat here reading how people that still like Tressel are "sheep", we're irrational, we're drinking the Kool-aid, etc...that's really offensive to me (but come on, we're on the internet talking with strangers so I'm not gonna get too carried away) so I punched back. It's really interesting to see this unfold. I knew what I was doing. Once a shove was made back to these silly people, I knew what the response would be and the ones that are the biggest problem posted in this thread, including one really loony phone salesmen that a few people seem to like for some reason. The irony is these same people that have preached and preached on how we are supposed to think with the Tressel situation threw up when they read my post because I dared to voice my own opinion. Really sad, if you ask me.

    yakman

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  • yakman said...

    Wasn't bragging, dude. just reasoning a bit. The more you bash, the dumber you look.

    Maybe some of those you are bashing arent hating but just trying to reason it in their minds a bit....

    A new coach once said "there is a fine line between perception and reality"

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  • Scherzo said...

    Yakman, I hear what you're saying but don't waste the energy getting so upset.

    There is a very small but vocal portion of the fanbase that never liked Tressel. His neatly parted hair and sweatervest embarrassed them. The values found in the "Winners Manual" threatened them. Who can blame them, they have been taught by modern progressive society that all of the ills of the world have been caused by guys just like JT. So they hated him, but in secret, because they knew it best served them to suppress the rage......until the right moment. Now you're seeing a decade of resentment and hate emanating from a small wedge of the fanbase. Of course it's irrational and self-serving, these people are miserable in general, basically just as you describe.

    Scherzo, much better articulated than what I wrote. thanks you found the words I couldn't.

    “Whenever the government fears the people, there is liberty; When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.” – Thomas Jefferson

    boxley

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    yakman

  • yakman said...

    Wasn't bragging, dude. just reasoning a bit. The more you bash, the dumber you look.

    Your avatar is fitting, it is a sheep is it not? Either that or your dog is really ugly! Ha.

    Bdigitty

  • Bdigitty said...

    Your avatar is fitting, it is a sheep is it not? Either that or your dog is really ugly! Ha.

    Keep proving my point, bdiggity. You fell into a trap. Thanks for letting everyone know you're one of the problems.

    yakman

  • boxley said...

    Scherzo, much better articulated than what I wrote. thanks you found the words I couldn't.

    I agree. Good post.

    yakman

  • yakman said...

    I'm merely coughing up the flem, like I said in another post, and putting up my fists a bit, finally. Doesn't matter how close I am to things, I'm just a bystander like the rest of you that wanted to show some emotion in this gang fight we're witnessing. Too many have been very disrespectful. I may be inducing some type of negative behavior but in my case it's about shoving back a bit. I've sat here reading how people that still like Tressel are "sheep", we're irrational, we're drinking the Kool-aid, etc...that's really offensive to me (but come on, we're on the internet talking with strangers so I'm not gonna get too carried away) so I punched back. It's really interesting to see this unfold. I knew what I was doing. Once a shove was made back to these silly people, I knew what the response would be and the ones that are the biggest problem posted in this thread, including one really loony phone salesmen that a few people seem to like for some reason. The irony is these same people that have preached and preached on how we are supposed to think with the Tressel situation threw up when they read my post because I dared to voice my own opinion. Really sad, if you ask me.

    I feel ya.

    Alumnut

  • yakman said...

    Keep proving my point, bdiggity. You fell into a trap. Thanks for letting everyone know you're one of the problems.

    Thats OK, I'll never be an animal that is herded and lead to slaughter! I'll think for myself! Tell Tress I'm disappointed!

    Bdigitty

  • BBucksorBeGone8 said...

    Hater!!!

    BBucksorBeGone8

    Yeah, I got your point. Laughed at myself there

    I was a little over the top today. Just venting too.

    I guess I cannot understand all the "hate" being spewed about something that has happend, as if the reiteration of it will somehow be more important now.

    I was hugely shocked when this began unfolding in December. It has been a very long six months since then, but it seems as if we are eating our own on the boards, dredging up what is done and unchangable, as if our voicing our feelings over the events will make them different or change them.

    It will not.

    It is however frustrating to have the same people come on the boards that are supposed to be fans of tOSU and all that entails, and yet keep on "hatin".

    What positive good does that do. How does"Tressel lied" commentary contribute to supporting the bucks now?

    The continued trashing of what has occurred does not contribute anything positive to this site or the program.

    This post was edited by boxley on 6/14/2011 at 12:17 PM

    “Whenever the government fears the people, there is liberty; When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.” – Thomas Jefferson

    boxley

  • good post, Boxley

    yakman

  • boxley said...

    BBucksorBeGone8

    Yeah, I got your point. Laughed at myself there

    I was a little over the top today. Just venting too.

    i guess I cannot understand all the "hate" being spewed about something that has happend, as if the reiteration of it will somehow be more important now.

    I was hugely shocked when this began unfolding in December. It has been a very long six months since then, but it seems as if we are eating our own on the boards, dredging up what is done and unchangable, as if our voiceing our feelings over the events will make them different or change them.

    It will not.

    It is however frustrating to have the same people come on the boards that are supposed to be fans of tOSU and all that entails, and yet keep on "hatin".

    What positive good does that do. How does"Tressel lied" commentary contribute to supporting the bucks now?

    The continued trashing of what has occurred does not contribute anything positive to this site or the program.

    I think the conversations are fine until someone interjects emotions or takes something personally. I think no matter what side of the coin you are on with JT that is fine. You have earned the right to be on that side of the coin. Of course people still love him but those who no longer believe in all the things he preached and stood for have earned the right to do so as well. We need to stop trying to force our opinions and tell people what they should believe and why. It is a task of futility. Alpha has said from day 1 he did not like Tress...that is his right and I respect him immensly for not waivering. He is not required to like the coach and if he wanted a less conservative coach then more power to him. I think JT is great off the field and I know he is not a liar to the people he meets. However for the football program he did exactly that. It is what it is but he put us in harms way and I am not upset he is replaced. I would sit and have dinner with the guy anytime however as I like him. Differing opinion and emotion will never go away on a fan base this large... it is better to say your piece and agrre or disagree then to make it personal and try to fight what you cannot change.

    Boxley sometimes people just have to vent to get it out... that is why we have message boards.

    This post was edited by BBucksorBeGone8 on 6/14/2011 at 12:22 PM

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  • Bdigitty said...

    Your avatar is fitting, it is a sheep is it not? Either that or your dog is really ugly! Ha.

    And your avatar is a snowmobile, hmmmm.......... very Michiganny.............is there a connection...........

    “Whenever the government fears the people, there is liberty; When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.” – Thomas Jefferson

    boxley

  • All i ever said was that Tress was a good man, but when he was witnessed killing that bus load of children and then being found guilty of raping those 2 grandmothers in Worthington, I was no longer going to wear my sweatervest out in public.

    Sorry my sarcasm button isn't working.

    davebucknut

  • boxley said...

    And your avatar is a snowmobile, hmmmm.......... very Michiganny.............is there a connection...........

    I'm 2000 miles away from you in Tahoe, don't ever insinuate that I have anything to do with Michigan. I'm Buckeye by birth and grew up in Cbus, went to HS in Cbus, and went to OSU, then the Navy! Is that Buckeye enough for you?

    Bdigitty