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If Jordan Hall has a big season, barring injury ?
I know there has been alot of talk about how he shouldn't have got the chance to comeback.. and how the "Freshmen" who haven't even played a down against college defenses are better than him.. Yes the guys who don't even know what a college class feels like or a Hit from someone who has been strength and conditioning for 4 years feels like..
Yes there are super-freshmen who come and make a notable difference like Clarrett, TP ..but that is rare and we do this every year where we put lofty expectations on these High School kids..
So my question is the proponents of Hall should have been cut lose ... If he has a Big season & brings qualities like leadership , teaching the young guys the playbook .. Basically being the senior..
Will you enjoy the deliciously served crow..
Defining the "BIG Season"
* He isn't going to win the heisman- we all know that. But I think he is going to be one of the big playmakers 2nd to Braxton or 3rd to Carlos Hyde..
I am thinking anything over 500 rec - 800 rec yards and 10 TDs or more is huge for Hall.. But the notion that he is going to be demoted by someone who we haven't seen on a College football field yet is kind of a stretch (I don't think it will be that easy , that freshman must come in do it in practice & in games).
so 500- 800 yds rec or total yards + 10 tds is BIG - I think am being reasonable - you can state you definition of BIG .. especially those who will undervalue him, just to avoid the crow..
This post was edited by ghBuck23 16 months ago
Too logical, too obvious, too simple, therefore unacceptable to this board...
Crow is always good when I'm wrong in a positive way.
Sarah sorry about the Herpes.
What would you consider a "big season"? Also, I don't think you can include the "barring injuries" caveat, that was another concern of those in the camp that wanted Hall to move on.
I imagine he'll have a solid season, nothing spectacular, and this stupid debate will rage on.
lulz Duane gonna since there is another Hall thread
An outstanding season for Hall would be about 8-10 touches per game 4-5 receiving and 4-5 rushing on jet sweeps and counter plays. Average production at about 8 yards per catch and 7 or so per rush.
In Percy Harvin's last season he had 9 touches and roughly 10 yards per each rushing and receiving.
Jordy will get lots of his touches in the red zone and he isn't nearly as fast as Percy so his production esp rushing will be lower.
For people rightly concerned about injuries note that last season he had 40 touches in parts of 3 games and they were all rushing touches. That's about 3 times more rushing touches per game than he will see this season. Ironically the 40 rushes in parts of 3 games would be nearly a full season worth but they'll be much different plays used as constraint as opposed to base so he isn't going to be getting pounded as much as he was.
Does eating crow get us to the BCSNCG? I've said all along I wasn't I favor of him coming back..if he has a big year, awesome. Football doesn't start for months...what is the point of a will you eat crow next year thread? ...are you gonna eat crow for asking others if they will eat crow ? ..
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If Hall has a BIG season, does that necessarily mean that the freshmen that weren't playing wouldn't also have had a great season? Maybe, just maybe, he'll have a great season because of the system and not the player. That has happened a few times in college football.
No, I won't eat crow no matter how many touchdowns he scores. I'm still of the mindset that all things being equal, give me the younger player.
What is a big season? Your idea of it and mine could vary. I don't think it's even about eating crow, so to speak. Is there anyone who thinks he won't or can't contribute? Or that some feel you may get comparable on the field results from the freshman?
I honestly think he is going to have a monster season.... the guy is more developed and knows the playbook, which being in the right position is probably 90% of football.
I have always been a Hall fan since he was on campus. No doubt I believe he will be the biggest playmaker apart from Braxton and Hyde. I was shocked watching so many Bucknutters tear him down. It was amazing. Even Urban praises this guy, and the fact people still don't agree with Urban Meyer is almost too dumb to even comment on. lol.
Especially since he's gonna be at the head of the table if Hall produces.
We'll see. I believed in Hall in the past. But that was quite a while ago. It will be interesting how it plays out.
If by "eating crow" do you mean am I afraid to be wrong? No. Does it make anyone who's magic crystal ball said something else better than me? No. I'm wrong all the time every day. I'm right too. So is everyone else. Guessing right doesn't really make someone better. Just means you got lucky. I don't think guessing right means its ok to rub it in. Everyone who was wrong knows they were wrong. No need to bring it up. They know it. You know it. Those who were right know they were right along with everyone else who paid attention.
The whole pecker measuring thing is not something I like engaging in.
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