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This post was edited by Heater 19 months ago
National President of the Sky is NOT Falling Club
Personally, I think that Heckert did a good enough job to stay. He has brought in some good talent and the team has a brighter future than they did two years ago.
As for Shurmur, I think he got the shaft a little bit. He came in with the lockout and that muffled his start. He blew it when he didn't hire a OC though.
This year, he had Trent Richardson got down early, Joe Haden with the self-inflicted wound of a drug suspension and the strong movement and commitment to youth.
Yes, he was learning on the job. So was Bill Bellyache when he was in C-town. I am not saying that Shurmur will become the next anything, but he's not a bad coach.
Having said that, his commitment to stick to the plan of youth will hugely benefit the next coach in the position in Berea.
Well it was widely reported yesterday but I guess it officially happened.
Both moves had to be made. Jimmy has to bring in "his people."
Even though the team did showe improvement from beginning to end....Coach Shurm was a train wreck at times in his play calling and decision making on 3rd & short and when to go for it (or not) on 4th down.
I am not sure who the next coach will be....(McDaniel's name is being tossed around)....but whoever it is, I just want a guy who has been a head coach before. I am tired of these guys learning how to be a HC for the first time while employed by the Browns...
I could live with Bruce Arians as the new guy.
I just hope they don't change from a 4-3 defense. It takes too long to change your personnel when you switch from 3-4 to 4-3 or 4-3 to 3-4.
Didn't Banner say something about not being the team to give someone another shot at being HC (basically ruling out anyone like McDaniels)?
Confusing statement. He doesn't want to give someone another crack as a HC? So he'd rather hire someone who has never been a head coach? Or thinks he can lure someone else's HC to Cleveland?
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by tedfitz10 19 months ago
NFL coaches and GM's getting whacked all over today, rumor now is Lovie Smith is now out.
Most of them get rehired. Pro sports is crazy, you can get fired every 3 years, and most times someone rehires you.
Chip Kelly leaving Oregon right after the Fiesta Bowl is not going away either. With the Skins offense with RGIII, Harbaugh with Kapernick, Russell Wilson at Seattle and Newton at Carolina, the Oregon offense scaled back to a degree in the NFL could have some short term positive affects, mixed in pro style concepts.
This post was edited by ohiost83 19 months ago
It's the way of the NFL. You must produce wins and no excuses will be accepted. No time to build anymore either.
Just curious why no body is talking about Saban on this thread is it because of the statement by Banner or because you dont really believe it will happen?
Wonder if Reid gets back in immediately or takes a year. Really like the guy
That list of potential GM candidates is very uninspiring. They are all from losing programs. That is not the way to build a championship team. They should look to raid New England, Pittsburgh, GB, etc..
I'd also offer Saban or Cowher 10/$100 Million to come coach. If that doesn't move them nothing will.
Got to wonder that with one of the Browns staff being from there.
A GM is going to leave NE, Pitt or GB to go to Cleveland?
Another coach, another GM, probably with the same results. But you have to keep trying until you get the right combination to get back to winning. Browns have been around long enough this second time that they should have started producing by now. As far as Shurmur, he certainly did not impress me in the slightest last year and I have not seen enough of the Browns this year to change my mind. New ownership was definitely needed, now lets see if he is a good one.
The only problem is, guys like Shurmer do the dirty work of building and guys like Saban move in and reap the benefits.
Just watched the presser on STO. Haslam is selfmade,passionate,intense and agressive. Way better than R. Lerner. Hope they hire the right guys.
I like how Haslam handled the Cleveland sports media. The thing I hate the most about being a Cleveland sports fan is the self-important media and how they get miffed so easily when they are not treated like the idols they think they are. The same people who blackballed Casey Coleman because he was good friends with Belicheck, then acted like they cared about him as he slowly died of pancreatic cancer.
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I hope you're right. Bring in a big name. I'd like to see Jimmy III throw $10 Mil a year at Cowher just to watch Stiller Fan throw up all over himself and then pass out in his own vomit. I mean, you pay more than $1 Billion for a team, WTF is $10 Mil?
This post was edited by Duplic8tor 19 months ago
The Father, The Son... well, it's the
The Holy Trinity... as I see it.
Anybody else think Haslam reminds them of Cooper?
Not sure what you mean?
I personally wouldn't mind pursuing Saban but I dont think it would be wise to go back to a 3-4. I also like how that move would benefit tOSU by getting possibly Meyer's biggest competition out of the picture
That list gets even LESS inspiring if you look at it in comparison to Heckert. We just canned the best guy on the list. Not exactly a brilliant move for the start of Haslam's ownership. Maybe he can get Pioli...what a joke.
Shurmer had to go, but his staff wasn't all bad (Jauron, etc) and the team played hard for him. If we bring in some 3-4 guru get ready for wholesale slashing of the roster and guaranteed ineptitude until...they fire the next guy.
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