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Guys. I need a little help here. As i have posted before, 2 of my better friends are brothers who are both UM fans. Yesterday we got into a heated debate. Here's the scenario: If you polled 10 major college coaches, and gave them 2 choices: Knowing what we all know now, would they rather have Trey Burke for 2 years (freshman and sophomore seasons), or Aaron Craft for 4 years? My response was obvious, and not just because I'm a Buckeye fan... Whereas Burke is obviously the more skilled offensive player, I can't for the life of me imagine a major college coach who would rather have Burke for 2 years (once again, you get him as an 18 and 19 yr old) over having Craft for 4 years. The point guard position is the most important position in basketball, at any level, and if you promised a coach they could have Aaron Craft for a guaranteed 4 years leading their program, am I foolish to think that all 10 wouldn't choose him over Burke for 2? I need some feedback, as unbiased as possible, although I know that's difficult. I told them I was going to submit this question/scenario to multiple espn college basketball chats this week to see what type of "expert response" i get back, although I think the answer is obvious: I can't imagine any of the 10 passing up a guranteed 4 years of Aaron Craft... Can you?
Thr key part of this question is "college coaches" imho. More often than not th e teams thats win the ncaa are often anchored by the senior leaders that run the team and have experienced more situations. You cant ask for a better floor general and leader than Craft, even only in his junior yr. If craft can keep averaging double digit pts to go with his assist/turnover ratio and of course his dominate in your face defense that pretty much can cut one of the better guards off the opposing team, hes easily one of the top pgs in the nation. Not to mention hes an academic all american and the face of the team on and off the floor. Its very rare to find a player like that who stays four yrs. I agree with you, while burke is undoubtedly more talented on the offensive side id take craft with his defense and leadership for four yrs every time.
I think there are a hell of a lot of college coaches that would take Craft for 2 over Burke for 2.
There are two variables I would need to know. Are you going to be competing for a title in year two? And who do you have replacing Burke after year two? To me nothing replaces the ability to win a title and I think Burke gives you a better chance to win a title. But, craft has the ability to win a title as well so if the player you're going to Replace Burke with his subpar in years three and four then I take craft. If the player is Serviceable too good good then I take Burke for two.
The answer is, both, which OSU could have had. However, your question assumes "Based on what we know now." No one in America, except maybe their fathers, had any idea either player would be as good as he turned out to be.
Former Buckeye Matt Sylvester recently told Thad Matta about a high school player who could be "the next Aaron Craft." Matta's reply was, "I'll give him two scholarships if he is half as good."
Since all 10 coaches would be major college coaches, I think all 10 would/could have title aspirations in year 1. As far as Burke's replacement in 2 years, you wouldn't know who his replacement would be. It could be someone in the next class, or it could be someone 2 years later. That is an unknown
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Remember here too guys, one of the biggest factors in the scenario is you get Burke for his freshman and sophomore years, not as a polished junior and senior. While he has definitely emerged as a national player of the year candidate this year, he struggled at times this year, as well as last year, especially against tougher, more physical guards. And I'm trying to minimize the scenario to just these 2 players, not who else is on the team, or who is inbound... Bottom line, Burke for 2 or Craft for 4?
Craft has won titles in two of his three years. He finished second in the other one. Burke has won nothing and lead his team to a five seed in the big ten tournament with scUM's best team since the Fab 5. Give me Craft for four years.
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I think it is a simple answer....Craft for 4. Burke is a fantastic player but head to head Craft has his number plus I like more of what Craft brings to the table as an overall player.
Plus having that type of leadership for 4 years only helps with stability of future players (see Shannon Scott for example).
I would like to see college athletics somehow make it consistent across sports as to when you can go pro. Not sure if it's possible??
The premise is wrong from the start. It isn't Burke or Craft. Craft is a year ahead of him. The question is Burke or Scott, and the obvious and clear answer is Burke a thousand times over.
How good is Trey Burke?
First Big Ten MVP at Michigan since Glenn Rice, and that was more than 20 years ago.
Burke would've allowed OSU to play Craft off the ball. He's so much better at the offensive end, they would've made a terrific backcourt tandem.
So no players with different ages can be compared?? Michael to Lebron? Montana to Brady? Shaq to Wilt? All those comparisons aren't available because their careers didn't coincide exactly? Come on man. The comparison is Craft and Burke... Not Shannon Scott
By the time craft leaves he will be the all-time leader in:
Steals, maybe assists.
Will have scored over 1K, have near 500 bds.
Will be the all-time, all-time defensive player and his off-court/acdemic acheivements will be non-parallel.
A case could be made his jersey should go to the rafters.
This isn't even up for debate Craft for 4 v Burke v 2.
In that case I think craft is the easy answer, but I think you can change variables around to answer it either way. If OSU had Burke this year I think there would be NC chance and if you still had Scott for years 3/4 then I'd go with Burke. With all being unknown other than knowing how good they will be and how long they stay you have to go with craft.
Give us Burke instead of Craft and I'm not sure we are any better. Our offense would be - and our defense would suffer. I don't think Burke really adds anything to out NC chances if we give up Craft for him.
I disagree. We don't take a huge step back defensively and we take a huge step forward offensively. This team lacks a scorer to go with DT. Give me Burke with DT and we have no offensive issues and defensively we are about the same maybe a very small step backwards.
MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
35.2 6.9-14.2 .485 2.0-5.0 .396 3.4-4.3 .784 3.2 6.8 0.4 1.6 1.8 2.0 19.2
MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
33.9 3.4-8.1 .416 0.7-2.4 .306 2.2-2.8 .798 3.6 4.5 0.2 2.0 2.2 1.8 9.7
Looks to me like Burke gets almost 10 points more a game, while shooting near 50%, more assists. Every other stat line is very close. He is only .4 steals less then Craft. That's 1 more steal every 3 games. Give me a break. Its not close. Burke added to this team makes tOSU a serious threat at the NC like shaunsimpson said.
You can't just look at stats. Craft disrupts entire offenses. Look at Burke's stats against Craft - 66 points in 5 games. 26 assists and 22 turnovers. Craft makes offenses get into their sets 5-7 seconds later than normal. He makes primary ball handlers give up the rock. He wears guys down so they're out of gas in the second half. You can't measure that with stats.
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