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He's got all the gifts you can't coach and with a pretty reliable jumper that's coming along and of course his outstanding defense this kid could be an animal next season. His confidence is growing seemingly game to game but he does need to be more assertive at times and rebound more effectively. VO followed a similar trajectory from what I recall but wasn't close to being as highly as a sought after prospect as Thompson was coming out of Eli Whitney HS. You just get the sense he's on the verge of blowing up with another off-season of skill development and added strength.
I've been wondering this myself. I think Slam Thompson could be a good one because of his athletic ability.
He definitely continues to improve...hopefully he can become a more consistent jump shooter and develops the ability to beat defenders off the dribble
I think it's slightly optimistic for Sam but totally within the realm of possibility. I already like Sam's stroke as much as anything I have seen launched by VO and Sam is even more gifted athletically which is saying something.
Although I don't think Sam is anywhere near the 'instinctual' defender VO is, meaning Sam's athleticism makes him a good defender but VO thrives on D akin to Craft, I think Sam could be just as good if not better overall if he develops confidence and a starting spot.
This post was edited by tembuck2 13 months ago
With him and Ross all of a sudden playing like they are, and add in Scott, Smith jr, Craft and an imporved Williams..2013-2014 might not start to look too shaby!
I'm with you! I am very excited about next year. My only concern is the big guys. We need Amir to take a big step and McDonald to provide key minutes off the bench. I am very very excited about the growth we could see out of Slam, Scott, and Ross though.
To the OP, I think Oladipo is a good comparison. He only averages 13 points a game which I could very easily see Thompson doing next year while playing great defense. I think Thompson is already a better shooter than Oladipo was his sophomore year.
Sam has always reminded me of Jason Richardson when he was at MSU. His first year he was just an athlete playing basketball. Then his soph year he became a basketball player who was athletic. I think we are seeing signs of Sam starting to move that way. I hope he makes a big jump b/w soph/jr year that Richardson made from fr/soph.
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Thompson certainly has the athletic tools, and his offensive game and shot is coming together more and more.
One more year in the weight room and that offensive progression, OSU fans should smile.
Ross is really coming on defensively and rebounding wise, his offensive skills were always there, and he could use an off season in the weight room.
The thought of Craft, Smith, Scott, Thompson and an oncoming Ross as physically gift athletes as defenders and several improving on offense, makes you smile.
Biggest off season, getting Amir Williams to live up to his skill set, which he showed in the NCAA tourney last year against Gonzaga, Cincinnati and especially Syracuse with Sully in foul trouble.
Sam Thompson has to work very hard on his handle this summer. He does not have much confidence handling the ball when he's being defended. He can drill the jumper when he's open. He can explode to the hoop when he has a clear lane. But he cannot break down a defender standing in front of him. He has to be able to spin dribble, penetrate the seams, tight cross-over, etc... A player with his physical skills should be able to create his own shot. He's not good at that right now.
I'd prefer to compare him to Evan Turner. Similar sophomore seasons. Hopefully Sam has a breakout junior season like E.T. I think ET benefitted from lack of PG talent on the team so he was forced to do more. If Sam continues developing we could have a very good season next year. However I'm not ready to throw in the towel on this year. Our team is playing really good basketball right now. I believe they can play with any team in the country. I believe this team can make it to the final 4. It may be my homer vision, But dam I love my homer vision. .
This post was edited by GO2hellBLUE 13 months ago
Always thought about Jason Richardson also.
Forget next year, we have a shot at it all boys this year!!!! This team is growing and developing in front of our very eyes. They are absolutely DANGEROUS......
There are a few matchups that aren't favorable but we've already played against Duke, Kansas, and Indiana. I don't think they fear anyone and if they play better which I expect we can beat Duke, Kansas, and have already beat Indiana.
I'm thinking Elite 8 minimum and Final Four as a real possibility...and depending on the matchup we could find ourselves back in the big show!!!
Don't see ET comparison except the same highschool. Turner had handles and could create for others Thompson doesn't have that type of skill skill set.
You are right on about the Final 4 though!!!
This post was edited by L the Godson 13 months ago
For him to get to Oladipo's level , he would have to get strong enough to absorbed contact better & improve his handle enough to dribble in traffic effectively without the ball getting stolen or hit off his leg.
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i think ST could be the next David Lighty. Solid D as a Frosh. Much better shooter as a Soph. Seems to ust get better with every game. Will become a leader as time goes on.
Let's compare him to a Buckeye and not a Hoser. Ha Ha!
At this level it has to be instinctive. Sam has tools. He is one of the best athletes on the floor in any game. He is an excellent defender. But his offensive game is nowhere near what Oladipo's is. Watch the guys moves in the paint. Watch his ball handling skills. You aren't going to pick that up in an off season. It takes years.
Now there are things he can do to add some offense to his game. I just don't see him making that big of a gain. That isn't to say he can't be a good player.
Things that I think will make Sam a good player is learning when to take that quick first step and drive the lane. This takes advantage of one of his strengths which is his natural athleticism. The thing he has to develop alongside that is a mid range jumper he can hit with consistancy. This will enable him to drive more because defenses won't be able to play off him to protect the lane. A guy who made a career of this some of you might know....Micheal Jordan.
This post was edited by Gobucks187TTUN 13 months ago
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Sam is gaining confidence and that was a huge hurdle for him IMHO. He used to play hot potato with the ball and never look for his shot. What a difference the last 7 or 8 games. No longer a guy who can just jump out of the gym. Sam has become a solid offensive threat and holds his own on defense as well. Looking forward to seeing him next year.
You can't be as an exceptional defender as he is without good instincts. Offensively speaking, sure.
I think it was the Indiana or Illinois game where he attacked the basket and out of nowhere did a spin past his guy. He missed the layup, but I saw that move and thought to myself it was a continued evolution in his game.
It's possible his senior year he could average 2x what he does now especially with that jumper coming together well.
He can get off a good shot when he attacks the basket but just hasn't been able to finish when he improvises. That will change over time.
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It's all about the weight room and between the ears with Sam. He has absolutely no strength, and he knows it. One threat of a bump and he reverses direction. One hint of a block out and he abandons the boards.
With a little more mass, and a lot more belief in himself, he will not hesitate when a window opens on the dribble. Sure, he needs to handle better, but off a hard screen, it only takes him 2 dribbles to get to the hole from the 3 line.
Thompson and Ross, please meet the weight room. If they do, watch out.
Looking at what they have accomplished since that loss to Wisky, I would say that a final 4 is very possible. I think getting blown out in Madison was the best thing for this team.
If you look at their development it's very similar. ET first year he was very raw but you could tell he had talent and athletic ability. Second year he made it on the floor through defense and started gaining confidence to score the ball. His third year he was forced to develop a handle as matta put him through his point guard academy. Thompson has the skills to develop a good handle. I don't think they'll need to put him at point guard and run the offense through him his junior year. But if they did I think he could handle it. ET developed faster as the team relied on him more. but ST could be real special with a little more development. Also I really can't stand comparing our players to the enemy. Names like Oladipo and Richardson conjure up loathe and disgust that I don't want to associate with our players. Kind of like saying Brad Roby reminds me of Charles Woodson. I hate Indiana and MSU basketball on almost the same level I hate *ichigan.
I remember a piece on Evan Turner showing what he did in the off-season to get to POY ability. It was a ton of dribbling (very low) and going to the basket. If he could show his drills to Thompson and Ross it would be a good thing.
I believe Thompson and Ross have as much as potential as ET at the same point in their developments. And both will be first-rounders, IMO.
Where is this improved Williams you speak of?
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