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Any ideas? He is shooting lights out in Turkey and I didn't know what the thoughts of him returning to the US to play are? Seems like Parsons has his spot in the Rockets (this is why I thought about if.
Can somebody still pick him up before play-offs shaun?
C'mon man Diebs doesn't do nearly as many things that Parsons does! just because he's white and can shoot? Unless I'am missing something most of the time when these guys r ballin overseas it's because the rules only allow for a couple of Americans on the court or team at one time. So just terrible competition
No, he was referring to Diebler's rights being traded from Portland to Houston. I had forgotten about that too until Shaun posted it. I was getting ready to say that his rights belong to the Trail Blazers, but they don't; he's property of the Rockets if he ever decides to give the NBA a shot.
I'm sure the Rockets wouldn't mind having a good 3-shooter to come in if Harden ever needs a rest. Will definitely be interesting to see what happens with Diebs' pro career from here. Glad to hear he's tearing it up in Europe. I know he had a good rookie season and it's great to hear he's backing it up. A lot of times guys who go to Europe -- even the successful ones -- end up playing their entire careers there. There are exceptions, but most of them aren't willing to take the risk of turning down a guaranteed lucrative deal in Europe to try and make it in the NBA. The good European players are making well over a million per year (plus they get free housing and a free car during the season, so their costs of living over there are overall very low). Are you going to turn down a $1.5 million contract to try and make it in the NBA? A former second-round pick like Diebler would make well under a million his first couple years in the league. In fact, he might make the league-minimum, which is under $500K ($475K). And what if he gets cut? The guaranteed deals in Europe go out before NBA training camps open. It puts these players in a tough spot; they have to make a difficult decision. They all dream of making it in the NBA. But once they establish themselves in Europe, the money becomes too good to turn down. The best players in the world obviously make the most money playing in the NBA. But the fringe-NBA guys make more money playing in Europe than they would being the 12th or 13th man on an NBA roster.
All that being said, I hope Diebler gives it a shot with the Rockets. He can always go back to Europe the following season or in two years if things don't pan out in the NBA.
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They both have very good stats as well
but will we ever see them in the nba?
Probably getting too involved here but do you know what the nba pension is and if European teams have those also?
Rights aren't a practice squad are they? Houston could park him there long term and no one can pick him up, right?
And thanks for clarifying. I'm not comparing diebler to pardons, but think that pardons holds a similar roster spot. I would think a pure shooter has a chance to catch on, but Europe security is nice.
Diebler can play in the NBA just shooting 3's Steve Novak, or Kyle Korver.
But he needs to bulk up.
Ditto on what was said about playing overseas being lucrative. Depends on what Diebler or any of those guys really want to do but if i were them i would stay and make as much $$$$ as possible over a handful of years then maybe take a shot (if open) at the NBA.
They can always go back to play and if not they will still have a nice nest egg to build their professional future on (assuming they are not idiots and spend it all).
The tough thing about Diebler's situation for the NBA is that he has to be so 'light's out' it's not even funny. A NBA 2 guard who can't really create his shot off the dribble is totally reliant on a pass first point guard ora team that run's lots of sets to free shooters. Most NBA teams run pick and roll or have offensive minded point guards. It's especially tough in summer leagues when he's playing with inexperienced point guards. He'd have to shoot about 60% to make a lasting impression and that's off between 5-8 good looks a game. That was what he went through in Portland last year.
If he stays in Europe for a while, builds up that reputation ala an Anthony Parker or Trajan Langdon, it's alot easier. The Steve Novak comparison - Novak is 6'10. He's a stretch 4 who's a light's out shooter. Diebler doesn't create a 2 guard mismatch like that.
Diebler actually fits into the Dork Elvis model. The Rockets live on 3 balls, transition and FT's. They are about to break the record for the lowest percentage of 2pt shots taken. And they have a particular focus on the corner 3 which Diebler is very good at (and is the highest percentage 3). Houston doesn't even call plays. The run a handful of pick and rolls with specific players, but Diebs would never have to do the things he is weak at. Like creating his own shot. Would never be asked to do it in Houston. Watch some Rockets games and their offense, and you will see why they traded for his rights. He fits their offensive model. In two years when Parson's contract is up and someone over pays is when you might see Houston try to bring him in.
I posted in a thread a couple weeks ago about Diebler. I had some links up so you guys could see his stats and some highlights too. Here ya go.
Diebler is playing in Turkey for Karsiyaka. Here are 3 highlights from his teams games this season.
http://www.eurobasket.com/VideoView.asp?video=17109 Diebler 24 pts 4 boards 1 assist (W) 6-8 from 3
http://www.eurobasket.com/VideoView.asp?video=16737 Diebler 9 pts 5 boards 1 assist (L) 3-6 from 3
http://www.eurobasket.com/VideoView.asp?video=16223 Diebler 25 pts 3 boards 2 assists (W) 6-9 from 3
that's 15-23 from 3 in these 3 games. Sounds pretty damn good to me. I'll take Diebler over that other cocky bitch any day of the week and twice on Sunday thru Monday. Diebler isn't great defensively, but he got better every year. Would love to have that 3 point shot now.
http://www.eurobasket.com/team.asp?Cntry=Turkey&Team=190&Page=3 Season stats
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