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Sarah sorry about the Herpes.
IT'S ABOUT F@#&*% TIME!
I'd still fire his ass!!!
You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.
It was based on a lot more than 4 sub performances. Did you watch him last year???
This almost seems personal with you. Whatever your reasons for hating Fickell, I do not know, but you would be hard pressed to find a head coach that would fire a coordinator in the middle of a season when a team is undefeated. I'm sure the are certain circumstances, but they would be severe. Not giving more yards than a defense should have.
Here are the facts. OSU Defense 57th ranked Total D in the country after 5 games. OSU Offense ranked 54th in Total O.
If everyone is so right about firing Fickell, why aren't they equally asking for Hermann's head? Make it both ways or you look like you are spoiled brats.
Same classless people that ran Herby out of town. What is it called, vocal minority is running everyone out of town and god forbid you think logically because then it is pure down voting and name calling. No wonder why a lot of people across the country dislike TOSU. Not because of our winning traditions but the vocal minority that represent us publicly shouldn't have access to the Internet....
Way different circumstances and expectations. Our leading reciever last year had 14 catches, we have 5 OL in our 2 deep who played other positions or were in high school last year, we lost our starting HB, and our QB is getting his first real coaching but is still developmentally a freshman. We completely revamped the offensive scheme as well. If our offense is playing like this next year then alot of us will have an issue, but this year they have exceeded expectations. Our offense was one of the worst in the country last year, just flip on a video of last years MSU game if you need a refresher. Also one more thing, this offense has made plays when it's needed to.
Our defense has one first round corner and another who will get drafted as well. Shazier was a possible All Big Ten LB, Our D-line features a top 15 pick at DT, maybe higher. We have 3 seniors starting along side him as well as the best D-line haul in the country. All other members of the defense are returning starters. This was supposed to be a veteran talented group of players that formed an elite defense. Nothing too dramatic changed on defense scheme wise so the players aren't learning a new system. 57th ranked defense is not good enough for the talent and experience we have.
The hating won't stop. There has to be a scapegoat for anything that is off or wrong. A lot of people on this board didn't like the previous staff and tressel because they werent aggresive enough and didn't go for style points. Urban obviously can do no wrong so even if the offense struggles like against uab, fickell will get all the focus and blame for the team's struggles. Also the answer to every defensive problem from most posters is just to blitz more. Fickel doesnt share that philosophy so he won't be popular.
I'm not gonna cry for a guy that makes 750k a year...GMAFB. I'm not gonna give Fickell shit as far as praise. We still have a long way to go on defense.
BTW Urban Meyer is a HOF coach right now...
Luke has a long way to go IMO.
The players are coming together...these guys are becoming a team. The more TY Williams that leave the better. The cancer in the locker room is being removed.
I think the MSU win may be what the doctor ordered.
Couldn't have said it better
Nobody hated Fickell, they were pissed at him--for reasons cited above. This is emotional stuff, and Fickell has got to improve just like everybody else--each week.
We'd all like him to be great, but so far the defense hasn't been in 4 of 5 games. Is this his fault? Probably to some extent. For me, I want to see how he does against Nebraska, and then, crucially, against Purdue (who runs a pretty good spread). I hope he turns out to be a genius, all us critics, whiners. We'll see.
This post was edited by dcraig 21 months ago
The offense didn't exactly improve either. I'm not suggesting people need to be pissed at Hermann or Meyer. The outrage towards Fickell i feel is premature. Actually Withers has been more vocal about the schemes being the way they are and being a proponent of them, but not much anger went his direction. It was always Fickell and Vrabel. I gef it, people are pissed about last year, and want to blame the coaches...not the players. Outside of Drayton, they are the holdovers, so it must be their fault.
People want to blame Fickell and Vrabel because the young guys are not ready yet, but Dunn was supposed to make an impact early and he can't learn the playbook.....no fire Drayton threads.
It's ok and normal to be pissed and mad about this stuff, like you said it's emotional. Some people take it to extremes though.
Why is someone a "hater" if they're critical of a defense that has grossly underachieved under Fickell's leadership? Look, we all like Luke - he's a stand-up guy that bleeds S&G. However, that alone does not make him QUALIFIED to be a good d-coordinator. Personally, I think he'll get better because Meyer will insist on it, as will the defense. But, the jury is still out on just how good he and the D will actually become. Saturday was a step in the right direction, but let's see where it goes from there. I'm pulling for Luke, but this D has a TON of talent, and they have not played up to that level of talent yet (enough with the missed tackles already).
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