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enlighten me bro. At this age MJ was a defensive player of the year and multiple time winner of MVP of the league. Had a higher ppg average then LBJ does. Enlighten me how LBJ has done more. This should be good
oh ok I guess LBJ doesn't play with any all stars. Oh wait he plays with 2 of the biggest there are. Weak ass argument. Jordan's teams won 6 championships with NO real center.
There is no argument. LBJ COULD be greatest of all time but isn't close as we sit here today. Hell LBJ didn't even have a killer instinct until about a year ago. MJ was born with the mentality of "If I have you down 10, I want you down 20 until your dead" LBJ hasn't had that until this past year.
I haven't even brought up shooting percentages. Another category Jordan is better than LBJ. Free throw shooting:advantage Jordan, 3 point shooting percentage: Advantage Jordan
LBJ is a freak and on the verge of greatness no doubt. But to say he is better than MJ to this point is just laughable. It really is
This post was edited by AZBuckeyePhan 13 months ago
People crack me up with how short our memories are. It actually makes me wonder how many of the posters actually saw Michael Jordan in the prime of his career.
Jordan was so much more than 6 titles. He was literally the best BB player ever to walk the earth. No one could stop him (short of the Pistons Bad Boys "beat the shit out of Jordan with flagrant fouls (before the term even existed)" approach).
He could shoot, go to the rim etc. He was the best. James is the best player today, and given a long productive career could be an all time great, but Jordan actually was the GREATEST.
This shouldn't take long. You see Lebron entered the league earlier because he had a better high school career, because he was a better player. Plain and simple. He has been to more all star games at the same age. He has won a championship at a younger age. He will have 4 MVPs after this year. He has more points, rebounds, assists,etc. at the same age. It is clear. Stats don't lie.
All you really need to know is PER. (efficiency) That is the stat that says it all.
Now, after that, just look at them. Lebron is faster, stronger, better deep shooter, etc. he is physically superior. He is just entering his prime.
Larry owned Jordan head to head.
In fact the reason he was so successful was because they changed the game for him. He is the reason fouls are called so quickly today. They were talking about it on first take just today.
I watched Jordan, but he is no Lebron. He was a boy, and Lebron is a man. Look at them. Look up the PER on Lebron.
Is PER what they use to decide tie games? Who cares? What was Babe Ruth's OPR? Who gives a shit.
Ya, you are right, who would care about the efficiency of a player? HUH? You go by human opinion. You allow emotion to guide you? Numbers aren't prejudiced, they tell the story without bias.
Jordan easily. And to those who say he had an entire team to help him win titles, well what do you call the guys on the Heat? Dwayne Wade isn't a good player?
Having watched both Jordan and LeBron, I am puzzled how anyone could seriously say James.
I am puzzled in the opposite way. Jordan was a piss poor 3 point shooter the 1st 4 or 5 seasons. He could not finish a dunk with near the power that Lebron does. He did not have the assists that Lebron has. He did not have the ability to rebound as well as Lebron. Physically Lebron is faster. Lebron is stronger. I just don't see why people do not see it.
Jordan had a PER over 30 4 times in his career. Lebron will have his 4th this year. Lebron will most likely have 8 seasons with a PER over 30. Not to mention Lebron will have more points, rebounds, and assists than MJ when it is all said and done. I think it is pretty obvious.
do you feel the comp is better today than it was during Jordan's era?
I think there were some great 5 star players peppered with 4 star type players back in Jordan's era. Today the leauge as a whole has a lot more 4 star players with a crap load of 5 star players, they defend well its much harder to perform in todays leauge; just my opinion..
This post was edited by ponzie 13 months ago
Not really any difference from what I've seen. The only real difference is there are more taller guys who can shoot outside the three point arc. But its pretty much the same talent then as now. And even then you can say there were fewer teams then so the talent wasn't as diluted then as it is now.
Its a hard point to prove one way or the other. Teams score the same amount of points now that they did then. Teams still have the same shot clock. Basketball court and net are both the same height and length. There has been no major rule changes that can hold up the arguement that players are "better" today or back then.
The game is exactly the same now as it was during Jordan's era. I personally find the argument that the game was different to be complete and utter hogwash that cannot be proven. But that is just me. People are free to believe what they want. I'm just not going to agree on that untill someone can prove it which they can't.
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NBA is much weaker today. Lack of dominate centers and lack of elite players. Lack of physical play. Jordan would average 40 in today's game.
I'm starting to think you are just trolling the board, because you couldn't possibly believe the crazy ass shit you type.
Jordan, all day every day.
I couldn't stand him while he was playing, because I wasn't a Bulls fan. Although, looking back on it I had to admire the way he played. He was unstoppable and made everyone around him better.
He would have won 8 titles if he hadn't tried his hand @ baseball.
HuskerBuckeye is the worst, just ignore him.
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