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I've been a Buckeye fan my entire life. I grew up watching the buckeyes during the last few years of Woody's reign, watched every weekend with Earle Bruce, endured the horrendous years of John Cooper and watched in awe throughout the Tressel years, watching a living legend write his legacy on the walls of The Hall.
It was unfortunate the way Tressel departed, but his legacy is in his winning, not in a scandal. And today, we would not have Urban Meyer, had Tressel still been here.
Having said all that, and having seen the level of talent tOSU has brought in over the past 40 years (I will defer to BigJimmie for anything beyond that), I stand in amazement at the behemoth and the monster that is currently being created by Urban Meyer.
I write this at the time Trey Johnson is "locked in" by his dad, and at the same time Corey Smith has come on board. At the same time, we are on commit-watch for the likes of Dontre Wilson, Vonn Bell, Ezekiel Elliott and James Clark.
Never - in my entire lifetime - have I ever seen such a level of talent being assembled at tOSU. Never. Many times I've seen stout defenses and grinding, pounding running games, but what is being created today is like nothing I've ever seen. I see an offense along the lines of what Oregon has experienced, with the running game Woody would have been proud of. Add to that a passing game a la Troy Smith, circa 2006, and this is about to be one of the most ridiculous offenses any of us has ever seen. Even Oregon, when matched against a good defense, can be shut down, because of the lack of a pounding running game. But the way Meyer is constructing this Monster, if our "quicks" are shut down, be prepared to eat a load of Carlos Hyde in your face. It's absolutely ridiculous. you can't possibly stop EVERYTHING?!!
It's easy to see what the offense is going to be doing. However, as most of us lamented throughout all of the 2012 season, we know the defense has a lot of work to be done. BUT, with some of the additions that have been made in Mitchell, Johnson, Spence and others, the defense could quickly be top notch, especially considering Vonn Bell is still out there. Should Bell sign with Ohio State and some of the young corners develop into the playmakers we think they will be, that allows guys like Johnson, Mitchell and Bell to completely tee off on the opposing offense, stacking the line, forcing the pass. And with the defensive line Meyer has and is recruiting, starting with Noah Spence, I believe the defense will also be one of the most prolific defenses we've seen in modern (Ohio State) history. Not 2013... I think 2013 will feature a very good defense, but not a truly great defense. However, in 2014... the Ohio State defense will rival it's own offense. When that happens - and we've seen it at Alabama - we will reach uncharted waters as a team and as fans as well.
Meyer is about to flip the switch on the monster he is creating. Soon.... it will be A-LIIIIIIIIIIIVE!!
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Duplic8tor 15 months ago
The Father, The Son... well, it's the
The Holy Trinity... as I see it.
The 2013 class is off the hook.The true measurement will be 2014-15.That is when the true shift will begin....there could be and should be 10 years of 11 win seasons(minimum)and championships
OSU has had the most draft picks and most games started in the NFL over the last 20 years. In other words it has been the most talented team in the country, by far, the last 20 years. It will be hard for Meyer to equal the talent that Cooper and Tressel produced. Hope you are right but you realize he needs to produce the most pros and most NFL starts to match what Cooper and Tressel did. Good luck.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by TheDude2345 15 months ago
+1 It's an absolutely great post !
To the poster prone to hyperbole who pronounced the 13 class as "off da hook", what phraseology would you have used had we procured Dorian Johnson, Quick and Bell.
Cooper was a helluva recruiter too, better than Tress IMO, but your right, this is a whole new level.
Don't be unrealistic OSU will never lose again.
(always wanted to type that..what the he'll does "bump" mean? "I agree. or+1 or what)
Your argument seems a little faulty. First off, number of players drafted in rounds 1-3 would be a better indicator than overall draft picks. I'm not even sure it is accurate that we have had the most draft picks, but if it is, by how many? Are you sure we have Miami beat in ether of the categories? Calling us the most talented team the last 20 years is definitely a matter of opinion, but saying we had the most talent by far? We have exactly ONE NC to show for that. In contrast, Alabama has four if you go back to 1992, UF has three, LSU has two and hell even Nebraska has like four. I think Cooper is currently the gold standard for NFL talent recruited to OSU. I have a feeling Meyer will surpass that.
What he said. Also, great post OP.
It's even more impressive what Meyer has done considering how the last two Tressel classes have ended up performing. Many of these guys are already gone. There still is a lot of waste on this roster. I'm amazed at how Meyer and staff have patched things together.
We are still another year of talent from feeling the effect of the Meyer talent infusion, but it is impressive the work that has been done. Just look at WR. People have been freaking out about the position and Meyer lands Corey Smith to go with Jacobs and Marshall. Even if we don't land another WR, we are in a good position and I think we have a great chance to add another WR.
Cleveland Orchestra Baby!! World's greatest!! The Brown's wet dream is to be them. The Ohio State University-Where the Illibuck Lives!
Whilst I'm extremely excited about the direction of this team and the talent that is being brought in by UFM. Orlando Pace, Eddie George, Shaun springs, Joey Galloway, Andy Katzenmoyer, and Terry Glenn might disagree, as would I, at THIS point. Time will tell if Urban can assemble the talent of our mid to late 90's teams. I have no doubt that he would be able to take that talent to heights Cooper and the rest of us only dreamt of. It's a really great time to be a buckeye no doubt.
This post was edited by 76farmer 15 months ago
Tress had more draft picks than Coop... Oh and he won a NC and 8 big ten titles and beat Michigan 8 outta 10 times. Won more BCS games than any coach in history.
From my count it is pretty much dead even on draft picks between Cooper and Tressel. That's not even counting that fact that quite a few of the guys Tressel had drafted were recruited by Cooper. I would take Cooper's top ten or so guys drafted over Tressel's all day long too. Cooper had an amazing group of guys drafted who also had success after they were drafted. I'm not going to get into the whole Cooper vs Tressel on field coaching debate, but in recruiting Cooper clearly won IMO.
Tress was by far a better gameday coach, I would surmise that he developed his talent better than Coop did as well. Coop however had some of the best Buckeyes ever at their respective positions. That is evidenced by their careers at OSU and in the NFL. Pace, George, Galloway, Glenn, Winfield. Have yet to be surpassed by anyone who has come along since and Andy Katzenmoyer had more god given Talent than any linebacker who has ever strapped it up for the buckeyes IMHO.
I certainly see your point of view, however, the number of NFL players is irrelevant because the college game does not wholly translate to the NFL, for example, the spread offense. In order for Meyer to equal anything Cooper did, he would have to win one more game against Michigan. Period. Cooper never won anything else, especially a NC. While Meyer has already solidified himself as a better coach then Tressel (nationally), he would have to win a NC and many games to equal his accomplishments - as an Ohio State coach. Having said that, the point of my OP, was that with what Meyer is assembling, we may never have yet seen what he is about to unleash, which is truly, truly a scary thing.
9-1, not 8 out of 10.
If Cooper knew what he was doing, those teams would have been incredible. He lost to scum time after time because their team had cohesiveness and ours was a bunch of uber talented individuals. His teams may well have been some of the most talented in Buckeye history. Unfortunately, compared to Tress and Urban, his brain was the size of a walnut.
"bump" is just what people often type when they want to shoot a thread back up to the top of a forum, also known as "bumping" (as the threads appearing at the top are those that have been posted on most recently).
he may have been counting the vacated win as not a win.
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