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  • I guess I didn't see the mediocre highlight video that some who don't seem to like him saw because I saw a kid making diving one handed catches, a guy going up, fighting for and catching the ball, tricking DBs with his eyes to make the catch at the last second, making guys miss, fighting to get the ball in the end zone. Put up huge numbers for a high schooler, not sure what some are looking for here.

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  • 32BukI4ever said... (original post)

    I guess I didn't see the mediocre highlight video that some who don't seem to like him saw because I saw a kid making diving one handed catches, a guy going up, fighting for and catching the ball, tricking DBs with his eyes to make the catch at the last second, making guys miss, fighting to get the ball in the end zone. Put up huge numbers for a high schooler, not sure what some are looking for here.

    Some of our fans really just don't know what they're looking at, it's that simple. This kid made more diving one handed grabs in one HS season than our combined receiving corps has in the last 3. I can't wait to officially welcome him to the program.

  • I love how I'm the stupid one, but you people respond with "you're and idiot" and "you know nothing" instead of having a discussion on the topic.

    I said he is a good receiver. I just don't know why people are acting like he is a savior. I'm no more excited to have him on the team than Spencer.

    We aren't getting the kid from Missouri here.

    I stated he isn't a top 25 recruit. Then someone responds wasn't he the #7 ranked WR in 2010. The last I checked without even looking at rankings the #7 WR most likely isn't in the top 25 overall players.

    I'm not saying he isn't a Buckeye caliber player. He can catch the ball. It doesn't mean we got a Ted Ginn type playmaker on the team because he can catch.

  • reservemickey said... (original post)

    I love how I'm the stupid one, but you people respond with "you're and idiot" and "you know nothing" instead of having a discussion on the topic.

    I said he is a good receiver. I just don't know why people are acting like he is a savior. I'm no more excited to have him on the team than Spencer.

    We aren't getting the kid from Missouri here.

    I stated he isn't a top 25 recruit. Then someone responds wasn't he the #7 ranked WR in 2010. The last I checked without even looking at rankings the #7 WR most likely isn't in the top 25 overall players.

    I'm not saying he isn't a Buckeye caliber player. He can catch the ball. It doesn't mean we got a Ted Ginn type playmaker on the team because he can catch.

    Honestly Ted Ginn wasn't that good of a receiver.

    I loved Teddy, but he was all athlete. That worked for us, but getting guys who have the tools to be a great receiver is important too. You don't need your whole receiver core to be burners.

    I don't really care about "top 25 nationally" vs being a top ten receiver in the class. When it comes to the top players like that scouting services aren't going to do well enough at projecting who will pan out and who won't. I'm just looking at skills and potential.

    Also to be fair to Bdiggity we discussed his points from the film first, then he resorted to saying that some people just don't know what they're looking at.

    We're not saying this guy is Julio Jones coming out of high school, but he could be a great one. Body control and the ability to fool DBs with your hips is more important than speed a lot of the time. This guy has that, he is big, and has great hands.

  • reservemickey said... (original post)

    I love how I'm the stupid one, but you people respond with "you're and idiot" and "you know nothing" instead of having a discussion on the topic.

    I said he is a good receiver. I just don't know why people are acting like he is a savior. I'm no more excited to have him on the team than Spencer.

    We aren't getting the kid from Missouri here.

    I stated he isn't a top 25 recruit. Then someone responds wasn't he the #7 ranked WR in 2010. The last I checked without even looking at rankings the #7 WR most likely isn't in the top 25 overall players.

    I'm not saying he isn't a Buckeye caliber player. He can catch the ball. It doesn't mean we got a Ted Ginn type playmaker on the team because he can catch.

    Ted GInn was very overrated. While he great speed go back and look at his routes. You will see he was very limited in what he did or could do. With all that speed he became a mediocre pro because he can't run a route. Gonzo was the best receiver on that team. Even though he wasn't as fast as Ginn he was able to move his body, get seperation and run good crisp routes. Its a damm shame injuries have wrecked his pro carrier.

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  • I'm not saying Ginn was a great receiver, but he made plays as a receiver that changed games. I don't see those type of playmaking abilities in this guy. I root for all OSU players in the NFL. However, I will never judge their worth to the team on how well they did in the NFL.

    I agree you need receivers like him on the team.

    My whole point from the beginning is people are acting like he immediately answers our receiver issues and automatically starts from day 1. Is it possible because he runs good routes and catches well he could? Yes. However, I don't see him as a game changer.

    Top 25 overall USUALLY end up to be game changers of some sort. That is the only reason why I mention recruiting rankings.

    I'll say for the last time. I'm not saying he is a bad receiver or I won't be happy to have him as a Buckeye. He is better than most the WR's we have a shot at and better than all the ones we are likely to get this year in my opinion. I'll take Diggs over him (even if he ended up at safety), but we prob have no chance.

  • reservemickey said... (original post)

    I'm not saying Ginn was a great receiver, but he made plays as a receiver that changed games. I don't see those type of playmaking abilities in this guy. I root for all OSU players in the NFL. However, I will never judge their worth to the team on how well they did in the NFL.

    I agree you need receivers like him on the team.

    My whole point from the beginning is people are acting like he immediately answers our receiver issues and automatically starts from day 1. Is it possible because he runs good routes and catches well he could? Yes. However, I don't see him as a game changer.

    Top 25 overall USUALLY end up to be game changers of some sort. That is the only reason why I mention recruiting rankings.

    I'll say for the last time. I'm not saying he is a bad receiver or I won't be happy to have him as a Buckeye. He is better than most the WR's we have a shot at and better than all the ones we are likely to get this year in my opinion. I'll take Diggs over him (even if he ended up at safety), but we prob have no chance.

    Oh i am not saying Thomas is or isn't better then Diggs, Green-Beckham, Williams or Mcdonald. Just stating that Thomas was a very highly rated WR last year and a National WR type recruit. Same as the above.

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  • CaptainMorgan said... (original post)

    Honestly Ted Ginn wasn't that good of a receiver.

    I loved Teddy, but he was all athlete. That worked for us, but getting guys who have the tools to be a great receiver is important too. You don't need your whole receiver core to be burners.

    I don't really care about "top 25 nationally" vs being a top ten receiver in the class. When it comes to the top players like that scouting services aren't going to do well enough at projecting who will pan out and who won't. I'm just looking at skills and potential.

    Also to be fair to Bdiggity we discussed his points from the film first, then he resorted to saying that some people just don't know what they're looking at.

    We're not saying this guy is Julio Jones coming out of high school, but he could be a great one. Body control and the ability to fool DBs with your hips is more important than speed a lot of the time. This guy has that, he is big, and has great hands.

    Exactly Captain. I didn't call anyone names, all I said was that some of our fans just simply don't know what they're looking at, which in this case is spot on. Mike Thomas is a big kid and is already over 200 and is almost 6'4. He doesn't have to be a burner. Just look at his first catch in his video, that's all you need to see. Secondly that wasn't the only spectacular catch he had like that he made play after play with his hands. The first thing a receiver has to do is know how to run his routes and put himself in position on his route. Secondly he has to be able to CATCH! You brought up a great point with Ted Ginn. Yes he was fast but wasn't the best route runner, and didn't have the best hands. Mike Thomas has a huge upside because he's a great combination of size, speed, route running, excellent hands, and he's big enough to help make blocks down field in the run game. We are going to present matchup problems with all of these big kids and athletic TE's. I love the direction we're going. The little guys like James Louis and James Jackson had speed but weren't getting it done and making any impact and getting buried on the depth chart. I think Fickell is gonna bring a very physical style of play to OSU and I like that.

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    I agree he is a national level recruit. I just felt like some people were placing him on game changer level. Maybe I'm just not wording it right or misunderstanding others.

    My opinion was based on previous threads too mostly, not this one.

  • So I happen to be an avid Clemson fan as well and follow the program on some non-premium sites. They have a 4* WR who they signed in 2010 (Martavis Bryant) and went to Hargrave because of grades. He was always a stud but reports are that he has significantly improved due to his experience and the competition he was up against. I think a lot of these kids are D1 athletes and really get after it with weights, etc knowing their next stop is the big time.

    That being said, I am very excited that Thomas will be going against talented competition at FUMA this year and hopefully will get that much better. It's also great to hear he'll be with Cardale. Very excited about the possibility of a committment from him.

  • reservemickey said... (original post)

    I love how I'm the stupid one, but you people respond with "you're and idiot" and "you know nothing" instead of having a discussion on the topic.

    I said he is a good receiver. I just don't know why people are acting like he is a savior. I'm no more excited to have him on the team than Spencer.

    We aren't getting the kid from Missouri here.

    I stated he isn't a top 25 recruit. Then someone responds wasn't he the #7 ranked WR in 2010. The last I checked without even looking at rankings the #7 WR most likely isn't in the top 25 overall players.

    I'm not saying he isn't a Buckeye caliber player. He can catch the ball. It doesn't mean we got a Ted Ginn type playmaker on the team because he can catch.

    Your basing your own evaluation on star ratings/rankings. Otherwise you would not have brough up Dorial.

    I could care less what the rating are. This kid is one hell of a football player. You don't need to be a world class sprinter to be a great WR. In fact I may argue that speed actually impedes a WR because is he has too much pace he won't run his routes right. I'd say the top 3 WR's of all-time are rather slow...Jerry Rice,Cris Carter, and Steve Largent...None were faster than 4.6...

    The kid is big and has great hands. He has enough speed to be elite. His route running looks to be well above average. His blocking is good. The best part is his body control/shielding when hes in traffic/air...that is very improtant.

    I see an elite WR...

  • I'm not basing it solely on ratings.

    I did not see many plays where he torched HIGH SCHOOL competition. He is a GOOD WR. I'm not knocking the kid.

    Please show me film where he is making ELITE plays. I don't want to see one handed catches. Although fun to watch, they usually aren't big plays unless in back of end zone.

    BTW.... I was very excited to get Verlon Reed last year. He was a 3 star recruit. I was excited because of his playmaking ability. I'm looking for great college receivers, not great HS or NFL receivers.

  • reservemickey said... (original post)

    BTW.... I was very excited to get Verlon Reed last year. He was a 3 star recruit. I was excited because of his playmaking ability. I'm looking for great college receivers, not great HS or NFL receivers.

    He was only 3star because he had never played WR (not sure about DB) and those were the positions he projected to at the D1 level. However, I agree he looks like a steal of a recruit at this point.

    On Thomas, everything I've seen shows a kid who is a friggin special WR. I hope to hell we land him.

  • reservemickey said... (original post)

    I'm not basing it solely on ratings.

    I did not see many plays where he torched HIGH SCHOOL competition. He is a GOOD WR. I'm not knocking the kid.

    Please show me film where he is making ELITE plays. I don't want to see one handed catches. Although fun to watch, they usually aren't big plays unless in back of end zone.

    BTW.... I was very excited to get Verlon Reed last year. He was a 3 star recruit. I was excited because of his playmaking ability. I'm looking for great college receivers, not great HS or NFL receivers.

    There are a lot of plays where he blows by guys because he used his hips to get the DB to bite on the wrong route. Later I'll go through and point to a couple of those moments from his film.

  • i lve that he is (hopefully) coming to OSU and whatever he is ranked or whatever he runs, he is big and talanted and we could use those type of guys.

    plus he seems mature and doesn't care much for the public eye of the media and I like that too.

  • I watched the video again.

    HE does have a good QB throwing to him. However, this kid catches the ball like a pro. Its the little things that stand out to me.

    He runs crisp routes.
    He catches the ball at the highest point and catches it with his hands.
    He creates separation.
    In the first frame, he makes an awesome one-handed catch that I dont think anyone on the current roster can make.
    I did not see him get caught from behind (for those who implied he was not fast or fast enough).
    He runs the fade route in the endzone as well as I have seen from a high school WR.

    Some people on here think that unless someone is fast like Ginn, they arent a good receiver.
    Its nonsensical.

    You have to look at the ALL of the attributes for the wideout.

    BTW, you dont get to be the #1 rated WR in California and run a 4.9. LOL

  • bengalbux said... (original post)

    I watched the video again.

    HE does have a good QB throwing to him. However, this kid catches the ball like a pro. Its the little things that stand out to me.

    He runs crisp routes. He catches the ball at the highest point and catches it with his hands. He creates separation. In the first frame, he makes an awesome one-handed catch that I dont think anyone on the current roster can make. I did not see him get caught from behind (for those who implied he was not fast or fast enough). He runs the fade route in the endzone as well as I have seen from a high school WR.

    Some people on here think that unless someone is fast like Ginn, they arent a good receiver. Its nonsensical.

    You have to look at the ALL of the attributes for the wideout.

    BTW, you dont get to be the #1 rated WR in California and run a 4.9. LOL

    I'd love to see us get in on some Cali skill players and get them aware that OSU is looking at you. The last high profile Cali kid was Josh Shaw but he ended up in Florida. There is so much talent on the left coast that it would be good for Fickell to look out here once in a while. Ton's of great OL in Cali too.

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  • Cardale Jones just tweeted to Christian Bryant that hes rooming with mike thomas and that hes going to OSU next year. Hopefully they both dominate this year and win it all at fork union.

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  • JTforpresident said... (original post)

    Cardale Jones just tweeted to Christian Bryant that hes rooming with mike thomas and that hes going to OSU next year. Hopefully they both dominate this year and win it all at fork union.

    Well that's great news if true.

    What time is it? ....... and michigan still sucks!!