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His comments about OSU, especially his night-long epic meltdown when OSU did not get the hammering he felt they should have gotten is well known. This time he goes to bat for the U, and wants the NCAA to give a notice of allegations before signing day.
After botching Shapiro probe, NCAA needs to throw U a bone
By Dennis Dodd | CBSSports
Jan. 30, 2013 1:58 PM ET
An NCAA deadline is fast approaching, but not the one you think. We all know that a week from now the latest round of high school superstars, overhypes, flops and wannabes will sign letters of intent.
They call it National Signing Day and few seem to care or realize it is merely the opening of a months-long window. High school kids will continue to pull bullpups from nowhere and play Three-Card Monte with team hats.
It is a "deadline" of sorts. But the association -- in its clumsy trek to penalize Miami -- has created a different, more sobering, artificial drop-dead date next week.
The NCAA owes it to Miami to have that notice of allegations in front of the school by signing day. Those kids, their families, the school and the team deserve it. The investigation in the Nevin Shapiro case has lasted two years, way too long. While an NOA is merely the next step and doesn't provide closure, it gives everyone a chance to see what's ahead, what Miami faces. It gives recruits an idea of whether they want to attend Miami.
It is simple decency in the aftermath of last week's "stunning" (Mark Emmert's word, not ours) scandal. Somehow, the NCAA president and his entire leadership structure missed the fact that Shapiro's lawyer Maria Elena Perez was improperly used to obtain information for the NCAA during a bankruptcy deposition.
At least that's the NCAA’s story. Perez claims she has done nothing wrong. The NCAA flagged itself. Now it owes Miami football that favor of at least delivering that NOA by next Wednesday. It would be ethical, just, proper and right.
The NOA is merely a list of sins that Miami will face. The school may not be in front of the infractions committee until the summer. The penalties would be handed down months after. It's amazing how bad this all seemed for Miami 1½ years ago when Yahoo broke the story. Since then we've had Ohio State and Penn State and this massive NCAA fumble while heading into the Miami end zone.
The botched Shapiro investigation almost makes the Hurricanes seem like sympathetic figures at this point. They have something close to leverage. They definitely have some level of public sympathy.
Miami has self-penalized -- removing itself from two bowls, suspending eight players, docking itself scholarships this year. That's only in football. Anything else from the NCAA would seem to be excessive and may/should invite a Miami lawsuit. But the point as of now remains the innocents, the kids who have the guts, vision and, yes, talent to come to Coral Gables to play football during these controversial times.
Never mind that Al Golden has persevered. Somehow Miami's coach has been able to assemble a recruiting class ranked in the top 30. Better than that, he has been able to keep the class together for the most part with a week to go before signing day.
"The NCAA is more unpredictable than recruiting," said J.C. Shurburtt, a recruiting analyst for 247. "We all talk about Penn State and how they've held it together. Miami is not facing as bad a situation but a pretty bad thing. They've really done a nice job."
The climate is so polluted, Miami opponents don't have to negative recruit. All they have to do is tell recruits to read the paper. A recruiting class hangs in the balance. Five-star tailback Alex Collins is getting a lot of attention from Arkansas. Star linebacker Matthew Thomas from Booker T. Washington in Miami is deciding between the Hurricanes, Alabama, LSU, Florida State and USC.
"Those are two of the major guys hanging out," Shurburtt said. "If Miami can bat .500 that's good. If they get good [NCAA] news, they can most likely bat 1.000."
Emmert fast-tracked the review of his enforcement division last week. It would take 7 to 10 days, he said. How about fast-tracking the NOA? This investigation has dragged on and left a bloody trail. During the probe, one investigator has been fired, another retired.
The result will affect Miami for years to come. The school needs to know soon what those years will look like. Before the scandal broke, there were reports that the NOA would be coming down any day. Now the likes of Thomas and Matthews may have to commit and hope.
The immediate goal should be doing what ethically is right. The membership, public and media has lost faith in the NCAA's ability to police its own. There has always been something inherently uncomfortable about brother snooping on brother anyway. Proof: Only two conferences still have enforcement arms -- the Pac-12 and MAC.
When that NOA comes out, Miami doesn't have to publicly release the allegations. The NCAA won't. But having the letter in the mail before next Wednesday is the right thing to do for an organization that hasn't done much right lately.
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Dennis Dodd can kiss my natural black ass.
I am a Buckeye...proof there is a God in Heaven who loves me.
He isn't saying Miami should get some sweetheart deal, just that the NCAA should start moving to remove the dark cloud over Miami and I agree. Seriously, I think the Warren Commission was wrapped up faster. What difference does it make, the NCAA is just going to spin their wheel of arbitrary punishments and determine some penalty that will make OSU fans whine that it is too lenient, make U fans whine because it is too harsh all in the name of fake justice levied by an unjust organization with no oversight.
I don't disagree.
I said "This time he goes to bat for the U, and wants the NCAA to give a notice of allegations before signing day. "
I do agree that NO school should have to endure the cloud of impending doom for a length of time that hurts recruiting.
My comments (and the reason it's an OSU tie-in for me) is that he was very outspoken on OSU getting hammered, even after. He did not push for a quick end, either.
Personally, one of the things I hope comes out of the ncaa failure in this probe, is that a set time frame should be allocated to the investigation and punishment. Set a parameter and stick to it.
Nothing open ended.
If you can't find enough in the time frame allotted, then so be it.
Put an additional punishment on those schools that stonewall, or hide evidence perhaps?
NCAA owes the U nothing. History shows they arent in any hurry and does things on their own watch. Why should it be any different here? They werent in any hurry when we didn't know til late if there would be a bowl game that one year.
We don't know if he would've gone to bat for tOSU after a year and a half because we were able to wrap that thing up relatively quick, so I don't really see any inconsistency. Don't get me wrong, I don't love Penis Dodd, I just don't have an issue with the article at all.
Tell us how you really feel. Lol.
Just because they were f*cked up in the past doesn't mean that they should continue to be for the sake of fairness.
Possibly the most intelligent thing I have ever read on this board.
Whether Dodd is right or not....he's still a turd.
Im not saying to be fair. Just saying they arent going to speed things up for NLOI day. Feel bad for kids in limbo because of this but it is what it is. They have to weigh all the options
I agree with the post as well, but with an exception.
The NCAA has no obligation to provide anything by signing day. They should be proceeding to the next step as they are ready.
With that said, the NCAA should have had this wrapped up and over with a long time ago. They're oversight of athletics is pathetic, yet they make over two billion dollars a year? There is no excuse to not have the budget and manpower to be able to handle the work load.
So in short, I think the signing day "deadline" is arbitrary, but that the general sentiment that the NCAA needs to move their ass is correct.
can only imagine what he/and others would have said/continued to say if this had been OSU........this guy is a hack.......just like 99 percent of them are....
"according to a source familiar with the goings on behind the doors of the WHAC,there is absolutely no panic.Actually, quite the contrary."
Really? Miami made their bed. If the NCAA is truly doing a thorough investigation, and it is not complete, they owe Miami nothing.
No one (he) wasn't crying over any investigation timeline when it was "us."
Miami broke so many rules they probably are still counting....
It's the U that broke the rules. They are in no position to make demands or have the press to make demands for them.
Hmmm, once again the joke of the ncaa goes unchecked.
"Natural", does this mean you have not had implants?
That's right. No augmentation here son.
Yes, really. Not saying Miami doesn't deserve to be punished, they should, and they will. What I was saying though, and agreeing with, is that no matter what the punishment is we will still whine that it is too lenient, and the U will believe it is too harsh, and in the grand scheme of things it means NOTHING. So what? NCAA is unjust, their punishments are contingent on the school they are dealing with, so what does it truly matter? It doesn't. The U doesn't need a death penalty, they are already dead.
Like other comments, I don't read this article in the same way, Gessig. Dodd, for all his faults, is just appealing for some semblance of due process in a very messy situation. He isn't trying to get the NCAA to take it easire on Miami. The U deserves some serious sanctions if the allegations we've all read are true. Given how hard OSU and PSU were nailed, as many others on this board have written, I'd be real nervous if I were on the UM coaching staff, administration, team or a possible recruit.
This post was edited by Liebawitz 18 months ago
I'm not sure where folks are getting that I thought Dodd was asking for leniency.
At most, I'm saying this fellow is probably not the guy who would ever go to bat for OSU.
I found it interesting that he would take up any cause for Miami.
No worries though.
What you are saying, basically, is that we should feel sorry for a murder suspect/lawyer who is arguing that the prosecution is taking too long building their case. lol
Given the fact that you nor I nor Dennis Dodd knows the specifics of the case, we don't know what is "fair/just" at this point. For all we know, there are mountains of infractions that must be looked into. It isn't like this has been going on for years.
Dennis Dodd is just banging his drum trying to get noticed. He has succeeded but he's still wrong.
I'm not going to "whine" either way about what the NCAA decides.
He looks like Uncle Fester!
This post was edited by heisman1995 18 months ago
I don't understand how one sentence of your entire post, except for the part where you said you wont whine, applies to one thing I said.... I'm pretty sure you've missed the entire point of my post.... We will just say you're right and I'm wrong, since I am not the type to disagree and whine about other peoples opinions...
Totally agree. One reason it "takes so long" is when there are lots of infractions and not enough cooperation. tOSU had kids still in school getting the 3rd degree. Miami let this go on so long it became institutional----and lots of the benficiaries of the illegal goodies were graduated, in the NFL, etc...and so were in a position to tell the NCAA to go pound sand.
Miami doesn't get bonus points for cooperating. They were forced to give the appearance because Nevin Shapiro got mad that not enough of the kids he gave drugs, money and whores to came to visit him in jail.
Miami knew all of this. They should be scared as hell, too, if they think about what tOSU got for what IT did.
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