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Seems like a great kid.
But after Monday night I think he is one of the most over rated players in recent memory.
I still think he will go in the first rd and have a solid pro career and he will never have character issues.
But he shouldn't be the most decorated defensive player in the history of CFB.
He and along with ND were a product of hyperbole.
In hindsight ND's sked wasn't that difficult.
They "found a way" to win but were very fortunate.
'Bama exposed them as a fraud.
Rather pedistrian stats other than the int's which seemed in part luck based.
I'd take Shazier right now.
I wonder if the ND fans still think he was robbed of the Heisman by Manzel.
The only part of this post I disagree with is that ND's schedule, by national standard was quite legit. Aside from that, pretty spot on.
I can respect you opinion and you make some valid points, but.... to call him overrated is crazy. Yes, the ND def got exposed by bama's offense, the buckeye def would have done the same, except our offense would have kept us in the game for a while. T'eo will be the 2nd LB off the board in April (J Jones), and will be the rock of an NFL defense for the following 12 years, he is the best middle LB to play cfb in recent memory in my opinion. Would i rather have Shazier? absolutely (he has a higher "ceiling" imho), but calling T'eo overrated is a really bad observation.
Teo is not overrated. Everyone has bad games. In the NC game, he was in position to make so many plays. He just didn't finish. He normally finishes those plays. Most LBs at this level wouldn't have even been in position to make those plays against that OL.
The LB that will get drafted ahead of him was on a defense that got beat up worse in my opinion. Georgia looked worse against Nebraska than ND did against Bama considering the difference in quality of team they were facing. Jones also missed on several plays in that game.
I respect the dissenting opinions, they are supported by thought. However, I dissent.
Te'o is the most decorated defensive player EVER.
He almost won the Heisman.
I'm not saying he sucks or isn't good, just he was vastly over rated.
He played behind a stellar offensive line v a gaggle of horrible offensive teams.
He had 5.5 tackles for loss.
If he didn't play for ND he wouldn't of seen anywhere near this level of hype.
I think he was the 3rd best player on their D behind Nix and Tuitt.
I agree with you. I think the ony Defensive player worthy of the hype that Teo received was Clowney.
Whether he is or isn't overrated, his stock took a hit after Monday. That aspect is true. Personally I think he is good, solid whatevr but not yet elite! I think he has the tools, seems like a great kid and will be a very good LB in the NFL.
People can make excuses for Monday, but that game film isn't going to hide anything or offer any excuses..
I think that team was just over matched but to judge him on one game is kind of what people did in '06 after we lost with a heisman award winner.
Diddy, this seems pretty extreme to me. The big mismatch to me on Monday night was Saban over Kelly, who just looked lost to me. Te'o had a rough time of it, sure, but a lot of people do when bama gets in a bowl game. I agree he may be little more than a solid pro, and i think he should be happy with that. But if we ran a list of all the decorated college players who don't even become solid pros, calling Te'o "one of the most over-rated players in recent memory" just feels extreme to me.
The whole ND team go exposed by Alabama....to me ND probably had not seen that much speed in all of their games....they were a step behind on every tackle attempt....I do not think there was taht much difference between Te'o and Shazier......Te'o got caught up in all the ND and Heisman hype....
We may have lost the battle......but not the war.
cdiddy, sorry but Te'o is not the most decorated (defensive) player ever. I hesitate to remind you that an Ohio kid, who shall remain nameless on this post, went to TTUN and WON the Heisman as a defensive player in 1997. Since that nameless player is still playing and starring in the NFL after 16 years as a defensive back I would say you have overstated your case.
This post was edited by Liebawitz 18 months ago
Sarah sorry about the Herpes.
I agree with your thoughts...and what amazes me is how much credit he gets for those 7 INTs that he had. I don't think he had a single INT in his first 3 years at ND...I'm not saying it was all luck but other than the diving pick he had against Oklahoma, most of his INTs were thrown right to him. Do you have to have instincts to be in the right position, of course...but you also have to be pretty damn lucky. I suspect he will never get anywhere close to 7 INTs in a season in the NFL and his 5.5 TFL is pedestrian at best.
He does seem like a great kid and leader, but I think he will be an average NFL LB that ends up as more of a journeyman than star, IMO.
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