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Have any of them ever played anywhere near the level of their fathers? Case in point, Adam Griffin is solid on special teams. He'll never be a two time Heisman winner like his dad. It's doubtful he'll ever be a starter for that matter. Chris Spielman's son Noah likely won't even receive a scholarship offer from Ohio State. Cris Carter's son... well... I don't even need to waste another second on him. I'm a younger fan (30 years old) so I don't know many of the older Buckeyes. Can anyone enlighten me? Have there been any Buckeye legends with sons who have played almost as well in college?
Another question: If genetics is any indicator, could the disparity possibly be a sign that players like Chris Spielman or Archie Griffin may have simply been average in today's game or does it just mean that their sons simply lack that gamechanging ability that they had? Please understand that I'm not writing this to mock or attack anyone. I'm just curious. I'm always hearing analysts say it's a different game now than it was then. Strength and conditioning styles have changed. Game plans have evolved. Could those legends have been as successful today as they were back then? It seems that not many other football legends' sons have panned out either. Joe Montana's boys haven't done anything worthy of note. Last I heard, Barry Sanders Jr. had to redshirt at Stanford. Thoughts?
This post was edited by buckeye_mikey69 17 months ago
I think the odds are against them becoming elite like their fathers. Think bout the small percentage that are truly elite players in college Vs good solid players. Add the scrutiny, pressure and measuring stick they are held to, it will happen rarely IMO.
I think in some cases it has to do with the sons being not as physically/athletically gifted as their fathers but in most cases I think it comes down to the desire of the offspring to be great at that given sport. The vast majority of them grow up very differently than their fathers did(i.e. a lot more privileged) therefore they have a lot of other options outside of football(insert sport) where they could flourish or make a nice life for themselves.
Not every kid is built or wants to deal with the kind of pressure it takes to live up to their father's name either. They all want to make a name for themselves
I think it's a lot simpler than that, and in most cases comes down to the sons being not as physically/athletically gifted as their fathers. That kid's only getting roughly half of his genes from his father. It would take a very athletically gifted mother as well to produce a kid with the talent level of the father.
Jim Jacksons son is a starter forWisconsin-Trevon? Jim Herbstreit's OSU(1958-60) Halfback son, Kirk played QB for the Buckeyes in the early 70's...starter..Jerry Lucas's son walked on to OSU BB but did not last....Clark Kellogs son a starter at Ohio U (i believe).....
Cam Heyward was pretty good in college and yet to be decided in pros.
Carter could of been something special... But he's lazy as hell...
As far as offering scholarships, they are legacies so they get free scholarship right?
I think there is no way it is fair to compare the kids of athletes to their parent's. Unless one marries an Olympic caliber athlete there is little chance of the stars coming together. I also would point out that some of the great ones were not the greatest athlete. Some had the "IT" factor. Others were just born to play there sport. Chris Spielman is a prime example. Really nice athlete who had more desire to make the play than anyone I've ever seen. But not the biggest fastest dog in the pack... Unless the pack was chasing down the ball carrier, then he was always a step ahead of everyone on the field. Pete Rose was one of the greatest "Ball Players" ever to take the diamond, scouts pegged him as an overachiever who would'nt make it out of the minors. Pete willed himself to greatness. Pete Jr. was a good player, but other than a cup of coffee in the bigs because of his name he was basically a lifer in the minors. Quarterback is a position that can be more training than genes, the Mannings are still an aberation not the rule. Good news guys! That means our kids could still be a 4-5 star player recruited by The Ohio State University. If not I will still bleed Scarlet and Gray.
I believe Shawn Springs would qualify as good or better than his father.
That is who I first thought of. Herbstriet was also pretty good.
You could look across sports as well.
Wayne Gretzky...one of the best hockey players ever. Brett Gretzky (younger brother) in and out of the NHL with maybe enough time for a cup of coffee
Sandy Alomar and then Robbie & Sandy Jr...
Cal Ripken, Cal Jr. & Billy.
In some cases, the father is the super star and in others the son(s), brother(s), etc.
How about the Matthews in the NFL...we're up to what now 3 or 4 generations of that family playing pretty damn well.
..pay forward ........................................he made them pay...............................he'll make them pay again and again
Great discussion, guys. Definitely brought up some good points and enlightened me to a few things I was unaware of. That's what I like about topical conversations on the front row. I will say to the chicken shit who downvoted me, how's about you put on your big girl panties and tell me what pissed you off about my original post? Or you can continue to be a scared little pussy and just put another red arrow on this one. Your choice, Betty.
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