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I've made the same argument that Dodd has, but in retrospect I tend to agree with Gordon Gee who claimed if they would've taken a 1-year ban, the NCAA was going to impose 2.
Dodd was already on the NCAA to blister OSU, if the organization merely rubber-stamped Ohio State's self-imposed sanctions they would've been criticized even more. They had to go above and beyond. Look what they did to Penn State. That penalty was above and beyond what they were expecting, too.
That's the political landscape of the moment, and although I agree with some of his points, I think Dodd has misread it.
I'll triple that. The NCAA knew a bowl ban last year would not have been a punishment, but rather a mercy killing. We would have gotten one this year anyway.
I used to think we had no shot because we are on probation and it's year one, BUT with the AP not having a say in the whole BCS drama, that may just play in our favor.m I still think the odds are against it, but I feel a bit more confident than before, but Bama has to lose obviously!!
I sort of agree. Many times it seems the NCAA metes out punishment above and beyond what is necessary in order to justify their existence. In other words, they have a need to remain relevant. So it is quite possible they would have added on anyway.... unless you happen to be in a SErtain Conference.
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I agree with some sentiments expressed.....I think the NCAA was going to impose some additional penalty no matter what.....either they really do not like us, or they wanted to make an example of a big school, or Gene Smith took things for granted and made assumptions that the NCAA didn't appreciate.
And for what? For players selling/trading their stuff for cash/tatoos. ...and a cover-up. It still seems rather trivial.
And.....my biggest problem with the NCAA is that they consistently penalize people who were not involved in the trouble to begin with.
I too am in the move on crowd...the only reason folks care about this is because OSU is 6-0 and better than the 98% of the media who predicted doom and gloom for the program this year. I absolutely hate I told you so kind of reporting.
Hindsight isn't 20-20, it's x-ray vision. Nothing can be done to change decisions made last year.
The Bucks have embraced the season, as has Buckeye Nation. Screw the haters.
I agree with those clowns the Common Man and the Torg, when they said yesterday that the Bucks did themselves no favors in 2 areas:
1. Allowing Posey back on the team after he had gotten in trouble a second time last season.
2. Tressel lying, not once, not twice, but on 4 separate occasions to the NCAA. They didn't consider that trivial when they slapped him with that hefty "show cause", but OSU took an overly cavalier attitude towards Tressel's repeated transgressions.
I agree with them, that it didn't put OSU in the best light and show that they understood the "seriousness" of the allegations. I know it seems petty to many of us, but the NCAA clearly laid out why Tattoo-gate/Job-gate was a big deal and more importantly why a head coach lying to the NCAA about said infractions is such a no-no.
IMO, the onlt thing that would have saved this season with a bowl ban would have been if Tressel sat the tat5 vs. Arkansas regradless of what anyone told him to do..Delaney, Slive, the NCAA...the right thing to do..knowing what he knew and was covering up..was to sit those players AND take a bowl ban last year...AS fickle as the NCAA is..(and they gave their blessing for them to play)..I think retrospectively that would have turned out to be a huge plus a year or so later.
Guy is a clown and has no idea what he is talking about. Must have run dry on other bs for the day. OSU was getting a Bowl ban from the NCAA, short of self imposing a 2 year ban. Only fools like Dodds think otherwise.
Funny you say that because another fool who thinks like Dodd is Forde, their writing is subjective at best and I've been stopped reading it. Plus you can also know what they're saying in their articles by reading the title.
I agree too. And I don't really think this writer thought this through. Nowhere does he mention how little the original infractions were. To even consider OSU's crimes to be uttered in the same sentence as Miami's is ridiculous. Of course they applied a bowl ban, their crimes are enormous!
bowl ban regardless, overdone and sick of the past - move the fuck on! Shit!
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It was Boeckman, not Bauserman.
and as bad as Boeckman was at times, I would take him over Bauserman any day of the freaking week.
He acts as though the ncaa gave us a choice to skip 11 or 12 bowl game. There was no guarantee that skipping 11 would have spared 12. In fact, I have heard that it would have been considered a hollow punishment, since it was going to be such a minor bowl. They might have gotten 12 anyway.
No one though the 02' team was a NC team either......
We still have 6 games to play...
are they going to be writing these columns if we finish out the season 10-2 instead of 12-0
why don't we finish the season and then make a final verdict..... assumptions only make us look like an AS$
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