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The answer to this question is simple. Is anyone going to beat Troy's Heisman, beatdown of TTUN 3 times, and go to the NC game? TP had his shot but didn't do it. Brax has to stay his senior year to beat TTUN 3 times. I don't care about stats because they can be misleading. If it is 4th down with The Game on the line I will take Troy.
Agree 100% As of right now its Troy all the way. He is the most complete and could kill you with his cannon for an arm and his legs. Brax def has the potential to be the greatest of the three but not right now.
And I shall rejoice in victory for another 365 days over That School Up North.
Miller! In the end Miller will be a mix of Troy and Terry.
Both Miller and TP are more physically gifted than Troy. This is just not debatable.
Also, Troy Smith redshirted his first year, returned kicks his RS fr year and then didn't start until midway through his RS Soph yr. THIRD YEAR IN THE PROGRAM!!! But thats not even all. He wasn't even that good yet. He struggled often that RS Soph season. We were still debating if making Zwick the starter might have been a better idea. It wasn't until Troy's MI game that changed everything. But here is where it gets bad again. Right after the MI game Troy admits to taking money from a booster. So he's suspended from the Alamo Bowl and the season opener against Miami (OH) the next season. Then we decide to play Troy midway through the TX game. Even then, there were still people who debated that Zwick was still the better option. Troy didn't finally start showing he was the man until a few games into his RS junior season. 4th year already in the program. Then we get the senior campaign and the post Heisman banquet tour where he shows up obese and un-prepared. Rumors of conflict in the locker room. And Troy getting made to look like a chump against FL in the NC.
So lets not pretend that Troy was always great and he never caused trouble. It took FOREVER to turn Troy into a consistently productive player and he still came with baggage. He won a Heisman for us and I love him as a Buckeye. But I'm not going to pretend Troy was without trouble.
TP was guilty of being a prick, self-centered, "me-first" player. But TP produced on the field when needed. He was arguably the hardest working person on the team every year and few people in the WHAC would dispute that. TP was on track to break just about every offensive statistic we had outside of receiving. The biggest issue with TP was his mouth, his attitude and the stupid decision to sell his crap along with some other players.
So far Braxton comes with the least amount of baggage. WAYYYYY more talent than Troy. The only thing TP has on Braxton is size. Other than that, Brax is a better passer at this stage and the stats say he is a better runner too.
You can argue that TP was stuck with coach Sic. But then again, so was Brax last season. And TP did get Coach Daniels for some time. So I'll call it a wash.
Of the three? I say Braxton Miller. Hands down... I love all three players as Buckeyes. I have no ill will towards any of them. But I do remember their time here. Braxton is my choice and I can't wait to see what he does next season.
I'm all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Let's start with typewriters.
- Frank Lloyd Wright (1868-1959)
I second this post.
After their first two years:
1. Braxton Miller
2. Terrelle Pryor
Smith doesn't even belong with the conversation of these other two at this point in his career. He was a redshirt freshman who did nothing but cause trouble to this point and was in the process of getting beaten out by Justin Zwick at the start of his third year in the program. Meyer would've sent Smith packing if he recruited him at all by this point.
Miller has already been a top 5 Heisman finalist with an undefeated season under his belt (neither of the other two ever did that) and the BIg Ten MVP. Pryor has already won two Big Ten titles and was a BCS bowl MVP at the 2010 Rose Bowl.
This post was edited by Fullback26 19 months ago
hmmmm.......well, this will be a better question in two years after Braxton is done and we get a chance to see how he develops as a passer etc.
Choosing now, i would take Troy Smith......Then TP......Then Braxton. TP was what....30-3 as a starter (or close to that)?? Hard to argue with that. I would have liked to see TP in Urban's offense. I think this coaching staff would not have put up with TP's shit or protected him but i also think they would have developed TP and utilzied his strengths more than JT did.
At the end of the day I believe Braxton will have the better career out of the group. Troy had a tremendous receiving corp around him which helps and also Beanie and Pittman in the backfield. I loved watching his Sr year.....5 wide and just pickign teams apart like it was nothing.
And for the record....I am throwing out Braxton's frosh year given the circumstances.....
Regardless.....to have 3 consecutive QB's putting up numbers and records like we have seen and will see is phenominal!!!!!
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