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I realize that 9595 has been all over possible expansion and putting in tremendous hours to this. I just wanted to provide an update from a very reliable source from the SEC that I talked with this morning. Last one of these I posted I shared that the SEC was staying put in 2013. My friend pretty much confirmed that again this morning. In fact the exact quote was that expansion for the SEC look doubtful this year. Now, I thought that was a little back peddling from what he told me about a month ago. He told me that the SEC isn't concerned with defections from other ACC teams. They are confident that if they want to offer a current school from the ACC that they have their sites on, they will accept. With all that being said, they are keeping an eye on the ACC as a whole.
So, this is now the second time that I have heard that the SEC is doing nothing this go around. Will be interesting to see if that holds true. I tend to believe that is the case because there is no hurry this year to do anything from the SEC standpoint. They are in the drivers seat for SEC type of schools if they want them. I suppose if the ACC completely melts down, they could reconsider but he seemed pretty confident that nothing was going to happen.
He also told me that the TV lines are being drawn in the sand as well. With Fox really pushing hard with their new sports network, ESPN is banking on the SEC as their top CFB product and willing to shell out generously for it. He believes that between what Fox is trying to do and the football playoff intrigue, look for a lot of renegotiations to take place over the next 12-24 months. Some very silly money is going to tossed around. The SEC is already in very, very preliminary talks with ESPN and CBS about upping the ante and the both networks are listening. The term "landmark" deal has been floated within the SEC ranks a couple of times in the last few weeks. He said he wouldn't be surprised to see that hit scuttlebutt circuit of speculation between now and summer.
The consensus seems to be to lie in wait. Once they have a better handle on what the potential TV deals could look like, then if the SEC wants, they can make a few calls. Honestly, they really don't see a team other than ND or Texas that could add value to where they think they are going. I pushed him hard about UNC but he really has heard nothing.
My buddy down at Texas is supposed to call me tonight or tomorrow but he shot me a text and said that the B12 meetings had a lot of talk about expansion but it appears most schools want status quo if possible. They would prefer to explore the TV alignment with another conference first but that still needs to be worked out. I will have more to add to this thread in the next day or so.
Like always, this should be treated as the BH. I just share what I hear from people who are is in the "know" as much as anyone I know.
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good stuff TXBuckNut. Look forward to more updates from you and 9595
So, I had a chance to talk with my friend down in Longhorn nation. Basically this is what he shared with me. The media and bloggers are spending a lot of time in speculation on what the closed door conversations by the B12 actually are. He said that this week, expansion was discussed but as I shared with everyone a few months ago, which he reaffirmed tonight, the current 10 are pretty happy with their current revenue sharing spilt. Adding other schools doesn't make financial sense at this point.
The big thing is that the conference heads want to appear like they are in control, when in reality, they aren't in as much control as the PAC 12, SEC and B1G.
One juicy item that he did share with me was that there has been some closed door heated discussions among a couple of prominent people from non-Texas Universities about what Fox is doing and how these members don't feel they have leverage for a mega TV deal because of the LHN. Texas isn't willing to throw in the towel on the LHN yet and others believe it could be holding back bigger TV deals especially if they do try to wu additional schools.
The schools know they need Texas for the B12 to survive but also know that they could be costing them more money in the long run because of the LHN. There is still a lot of bitterness over that which isn't being reported.
My friend shared with me that he doesn't think the B12 will be the aggressor even though that seems to be prevailing thought. Even though the SEC is sitting back, he thinks the B12 is taking a similar approach but more likely to pull a trigger if it makes sense. Right now, there is a split as to whether it makes sense right now.
The only other thing that he did share with me is that if the ACC goes defunct or ND pulls out of their agreement, the B12 will concede to anything to add ND. They are confident that ND doesn't want to join the B1G and won't join the SEC. The next best thing is the B12 and they are willing to do whatever it takes to get them to come into the conference.
That was about it. Hope that helps with all this conference alignment banter.
Would LOVE for ND to get stuck in the Big 12....I don't want them to get the money the BIG will be dishing out...and I don't want to deal with their fans, we already have to deal with PSU fans....that's enough!!
I guess the part I was very interested in is that both the SEC and Big 12 are sitting back. That must mean that UNC is very much in play for the B1G.
You know, I am not as connected to UNC as I would like. To be honest, the Rutgers and Maryland thing really caught me by surprise and I suppose anything is possible with Delaney at the helm.
Sometimes I wonder how much of this information is out there to see what others will do in response. I am having a hard time seeing UVA and UNC as the next 2. UVA, OK, but I just wonder how UNC can go without Duke.
I guess we will see. Seems like a lot of cage rattling without substance right now. I think I can say currently the SEC is doing nothing and I would be SHOCKED to see the B12 pull any trigger at this point.
Regarding UNC. I have read that there is no way UNC will leave the ACC without Duke. Any thoughts or rumblings on this?
Good stuff, TB, thanks.
Anytime Dave. Thanks for all you do!
FWIW, the University of Virginia purportedly filed a transition plan with the B1G. If true, the ACC will seek continued viability by admitting a Big East school. Assuming that UVA alone joins the B1G, what further actions can we expect from the B1G, Pac 12, SEC, and Big XII?
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If Delaney can get UNC by taking Duke, then offer Duke. The B1G would have a decent foothold in the south with VA and NC. Ask Notre Dame at that point to come aboard for the last time. If they don't, finish off expansion in style by adding another southern State by taking GT. Personally, I don't see why everyone is so against Duke joining. They bring a great basketball program. The B1G may be a football conference, but like the SEC, you need to have some dominant basketball programs too.
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