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i know it was a convoluted trade but did the browns essentially trade down to pick up extra picks which they then traded away to move up a few slots to get weeden and move up a slot to get trent richardson, who the vikings were bluffing on anyways?
This post was edited by dannychoi1978 18 months ago
Yes, yes they did. Only the Browns would pass over Julio Jones in favor of a 50 year old QB. lol
And I shall rejoice in victory for another 365 days over That School Up North.
Our quarterback does front flips, suck it.
Yes, this is what it was. Jones would still have Colt throwing the ball, so that deep speed couldn't be utilized anyway.
Everyone felt the Browns pulled off a great trade when it went down. It still may be...
Would the Browns be in the AFC championship with Julio Jones? When a team has a lack of talent they need picks. Thats what the Browns did. Theres no way you can say the Browns got Weeden instead of Jones. Thats a real stretch.
Probably still could have gotten Weeden.
Wow congrats! Trent looks like he can be good as long as he stays on the field, Phil looks ok when healthy, the rest of those players are terrible. I understand trading for picks but they were basically pissed away.
Posts a person who obviously doesn't follow the Browns.
"Whatever doesn't kill you...is gonna leave a scar." - MM
The #22 pick last year was the key to this trade.
When they first made the trade...I assumed they were stockpiling picks in case they didn't get the #1 pick to make a run at Andrew Luck. As it turned out.. they tried to package those picks acquired for the #2 pick to get RG3. Had they pulled that off, we wouldn't be questioning this trade.. but I believe this is probably what they had in mind when making that trade.
Nonetheless, the #22 pick was the key to the entire trade and they blew it on Weeden. Dumb pick.
And you know this after just one season! Awesome!
My issue isn't so much with the trade, but how they used the picks. Drafting a QB who will be 30 this year and who was at best predicted to be a 3rd round pick was a terrible move. Still don't understand it.
Admittedly I was against this pick before the draft. You did watch him play last year, right? He's a turnover machine with a TON of bad habits and constantly stares down receivers which leads to an enormous amount of batted balls at the line. Hell, he only ended up throwing 17 Interceptions because they had to dumb down the offense with safe throws cause they didn't trust him to not throw INT's all the time. Also only managed to put up a paltry 72.6 QB rating. Plus he's 30. By the time he gets it, his skills will be declining.
Also, do you really think this new regime.. who clearly has no honeymoon phase right now and is under pressure to "Win Now" is going to waste a year and potentially hitch their futures to Brandon Weeden? A guy they didn't pick, and Lombardi was very outspoken about that he didn't like? Not gonna happen. He's going to be gone.
So yes, as I said before... dumb pick. Whether he turns out to be a good QB (Highly Unlikely) is irrelevant.. because it won't be here. It was a blown pick.
This post was edited by WhiteGoodman 18 months ago
I'm not sure if the new regime is enamored with him or not. As it stands though, i do not see many alternatives. What might help, though is Chud's offense should be more geared for Weeden. All i'm sayin is, who knows?
How's this, they could have had one of the following: Reiff (OT), Decastro (OG) or Hightower (LB) who were the next three picks after Weeden, then taken Russell Wilson in the second round.
I agree 100% that Chud's offense is better suited to Weeden's skill set. However, that does not change all his bad habits. Also, this new regime (Coaches, Front Office, etc) have had MULTIPLE chances to say something.. anything good about Weeden and they've all declined to make any comment on him. The silence speaks volumes in my opinion. Again, I just don't see these guys hitching their wagon to this guy.
There may not be a ton of options as it sits right now. Probably the two best Veteren QB's that will be available are Alex Smith & Michael Vick. Norv Turner had great success with Alex Smith the one year he coached him. So that's a possibility. Who knows what they think of the QB's in this draft class. And who knows what they think of some of the young backup QB's out there that are looking for an opportunity. You never know what may actually be available out there.
All I'm saying is, I just don't see this new regime potentially wasting a year on Weeden. It's no secret what Lombardi thinks of him. I just can't see this regime moving forward with Weeden and that is the basis for my "blown pick" comment. Has more to do with the Browns going forward than Weeden & his skill set.
Bunch of us were here watching the game and singing (and then playing) Paul Simon's "Me and Julio Down Down by the Schoolyard" during the first half and at half time only to have our hearts ripped out.
They were saying back in the day that the Falcons were nuts at that time for trading 5 picks to move up to get him. Maybe not so crazy after all?
Appears Matt Ryan wouldn't be able to play had we won. So, oh well....
Kinda sucked rooting against so many Buckeyes on the 49's squad.
This post was edited by AtlantaBuck 18 months ago
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