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Greg Webb has committed to PSU

  • JarheadBuck said...

    Surprise the incidents/case(s) haven't seemed to have an impact on their recruiting does not equate to wishing kids ill. And, IMHO, there is nothing wrong with wishing ill on rival programs...especially those that compete with your program for a lot of the same recruits.

    That said, I agree that it is human nature to downgrade (sour grapes) any kid who chooses a different school...and OSU fans are just as guilty of that as any other fanbase.

    I wish Webb would have visited OSU, but that's the way it goes. Time to move on to the remaining (at least as) great recruits at his position.

    Why are you surprised though? That football program will be fine. Their new coaches and AD won't be held accountable for what the old staff did by the NCAA. They didn't break any NCAA rules. Now if you want to throw the book at them for allowing some off the field wierd stuff to go on thats one thing, but they won't take scholarships or give them a bowl ban for non football related issues. Our issues dealt with football players breaking NCAA rules and the coach lied about it. PSU will be ok and they have a dynamic class coming in with a new HC who's never even been a HC before.

    This board always whines and crys when we sign a kid then his rating drops but then we whine and cry when a kid we want goes to another school. We instantly believe he wasn't as good as he was before he committed to them, as if they're skills went away lol. scUM does the same thing... That shit is weak if you ask me! Man up and let the chips fall where they may. We have some good DL recruits still left on the board, I have a lot of faith in the staff that they'll sign a great class and even more importantly, coach them up to become great players and people.

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  • GetYaWeigtUp said...

    Why are you surprised though? That football program will be fine. Their new coaches and AD won't be held accountable for what the old staff did by the NCAA. They didn't break any NCAA rules. Now if you want to throw the book at them for allowing some off the field wierd stuff to go on thats one thing, but they won't take scholarships or give them a bowl ban for non football related issues. Our issues dealt with football players breaking NCAA rules and the coach lied about it. PSU will be ok and they have a dynamic class coming in with a new HC who's never even been a HC before.

    This board always whines and crys when we sign a kid then his rating drops but then we whine and cry when a kid we want goes to another school. We instantly believe he wasn't as good as he was before he committed to them, as if they're skills went away lol. scUM does the same thing... That shit is weak if you ask me! Man up and let the chips fall where they may. We have some good DL recruits still left on the board, I have a lot of faith in the staff that they'll sign a great class and even more importantly, coach them up to become great players and people.

    I will say I am shocked though that after cherry-picking whoever we wanted from PSU's 2012 class that we have lost head to head with them on two big-time recruits in Breneman and now Webb. PSU as it turns out will recruit much better now that JoePa and from what I have heard his son are gone. PSU fans have been saying for years that Joe was outdated and his offensive staff was a joke. I really thought we would get Webb but I thought the same about Breneman.

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  • GetYaWeigtUp said...

    Why are you surprised though?

    That football program will be fine. Their new coaches and AD won't be held accountable for what the old staff did by the NCAA. They didn't break any NCAA rules. Now if you want to throw the book at them for allowing some off the field wierd stuff to go on thats one thing, but they won't take scholarships or give them a bowl ban for non football related issues. Our issues dealt with football players breaking NCAA rules and the coach lied about it. PSU will be ok and they have a dynamic class coming in with a new HC who's never even been a HC before.

    Why am I surprised that they are putting together a good class in spite of the cases?

    1) Every time their players takes the field (and when they're off it) they'll be hearing "Pedophile State" and every broadcast will include discussion of the Sandusky case.
    2) The case / media coverage will be putting a bad light on PSU for at least the next year.
    3) They lost their legendary coach and most of the staff over it...and replaced them with a newbie HC and no-name ACs (with the exception of McWhorter and Johnson).
    4) The team alumni and fanbase is still split/upset over the treatment of JoePa due to the case...with high profile ones like Harris, et al calling out the school on TV.

    Those 4 together spell turmoil and bad situation. To me, those sure seem like 4 good reasons for a recruit to look elsewhere. Hence my surprise that a lot of top recruits apparently don't care.

    BTW, I don't know anyone who truly believed any troubles PSU had would come from the NCAA. So the fact they didn't break NCAA rules and their new AD/Staff won't get blame for wrong done by the past admin. has nothing to do with expecting them to have trouble recruiting. And, or course, our issues are irrelevant to the discussion. Also them landing a "dynamic class" this year also has nothing to do with many (including me) expecting they would have serious trouble recruiting at least this year.

    JarheadBuck

  • JarheadBuck said...

    Why am I surprised that they are putting together a good class in spite of the cases?

    1) Every time their players takes the field (and when they're off it) they'll be hearing "Pedophile State" and every broadcast will include discussion of the Sandusky case. 2) The case / media coverage will be putting a bad light on PSU for at least the next year. 3) They lost their legendary coach and most of the staff over it...and replaced them with a newbie HC and no-name ACs (with the exception of McWhorter and Johnson). 4) The team alumni and fanbase is still split/upset over the treatment of JoePa due to the case...with high profile ones like Harris, et al calling out the school on TV.

    Those 4 together spell turmoil and bad situation. To me, those sure seem like 4 good reasons for a recruit to look elsewhere. Hence my surprise that a lot of top recruits apparently don't care.

    BTW, I don't know anyone who truly believed any troubles PSU had would come from the NCAA. So the fact they didn't break NCAA rules and their new AD/Staff won't get blame for wrong done by the past admin. has nothing to do with expecting them to have trouble recruiting. And, or course, our issues are irrelevant to the discussion. Also them landing a "dynamic class" this year also has nothing to do with many (including me) expecting they would have serious trouble recruiting at least this year.

    Obviously these recruits have a better feel for PSU and whats going than you do. They've been visiting over the last year or so and developed relationships with that staff to make the comfortable with going there. All it took was a new HC for us to get back rolling in recruiting and obviously thats all they needed because BOB is ripping it up. New blood and a fresh start was the shot in the arm that program needed and they are getting it done right now. I think you and along with many other got too caught up in the names associated with the program and figured PSU would suffer. PSU is a brand! They'll be relevant whether Joe Pa is there or not. Bama bounced back after Bear Bryant, scUM bounced back after Bo, OSU bounce back after Woody and Tressel, USC is bouncing back after Carroll, FSU is still somewhat relevant after Bowden. No coach or situation is bigger than the school! We found that out first hand. I'm ok with PSU recruiting well for now. I still think we end up better in the final rankings both on and off the field!

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  • This probably has a lot to do with keeping Defensive Line Coach Larry Johnson around. He's a hell of a recruiter. Retaining Johnson was O'Brien's first victory in recruiting.

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  • GetYaWeigtUp said...

    Obviously these recruits have a better feel for PSU and whats going than you do. They've been visiting over the last year or so and developed relationships with that staff to make the comfortable with going there.

    All it took was a new HC for us to get back rolling in recruiting and obviously thats all they needed because BOB is ripping it up. New blood and a fresh start was the shot in the arm that program needed and they are getting it done right now.

    I think you and along with many other got too caught up in the names associated with the program and figured PSU would suffer. PSU is a brand! They'll be relevant whether Joe Pa is there or not. Bama bounced back after Bear Bryant, scUM bounced back after Bo, OSU bounce back after Woody and Tressel, USC is bouncing back after Carroll, FSU is still somewhat relevant after Bowden. No coach or situation is bigger than the school! We found that out first hand.

    I'm ok with PSU recruiting well for now.

    I still think we end up better in the final rankings both on and off the field!

    I guess we're changing topics again. facepalm_msu

    Yes, obviously those recruits have a better feel for PSU than I do. That doesn't negate any of the 4 points I cited.

    To equate us getting Meyer to them getting O'Brien is just silly. In other words, it takes more than just a new warm body in the HC job to turn things around. Witness how things (including recruiting) went for us under Luke last year.

    I won't speak for others, but you are wrong about my thought process. I did not believe JoePa was what made PSU a good football program. However, I did expect turmoil after losing their iconic leader (and staff like Bradley and Hall) in such a fashion.

    And I also think you are wrong about schools being relevant in football regardless of HC. For example,
    Bama after Bear Bryant - Perkins 32–15–1 record over 6 years.
    scUM after Bo - Moeller 44–13–3 record over 5 years.
    OSU after Woody - Bruce 81–26–1 over 9 years.
    USC after Carroll - Kiffin 18–7 over 2 years.
    FSU after Bowden - Fisher 19–8 over 2 years.

    None of those are particularly great, with Bruce being the best of the lot. Certainly none of them came near approaching their predecessor's success (so far for Kiffin and Fisher).

    I don't care whether PSU recruits well or not, so I guess I'm ok with it too.

    In general, I think team recruiting rankings are irrelevant. So I don't care whether we beat PSU in that aspect, but I too would expect that we will. As far as on the field, I'm positive we will be the better team between the two. We simply have superior coaching and talent at this point.

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  • I really liked this kid.

    Lets see what happens with Bosa. I think we would all forget about Webb if Bosa came here.

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  • ohiost83 said...

    That was the rumor, at least Webb is off the board early. I bet PSU gets Webb's HS teammate as well, DE Drennon, that had alot to do with Webb to PSU, is Drennon probably ends up there. Everyone talking about UofM, I would take Penn State's defensive class to date hands down over Michigan's, not close and I am including Drennon. Good thing is OSU is in on DT Mike Hill from South Carolina, DT Donavon Munger (has Penn State offer, and I read today the Washington Huskies just offered Munger) and newly offered DT Hurst, who is visiting spring game weekend. Munger is Webb's equalivent in my opinion, and Hill much better, he is a bulldozer. We have Price in the bag as it is. I would take the Tommy Schutt swap for Webb out of those two as well.

    Glad its PSU and not Michigan. They need DT's badly.

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  • Some very upsetting comments to read here. Every time some kid commits to PSU, I have to hear these Childesh comments about
    "Pedofile U" GET OVER IT GUYS! It is not the whole University, and I am tired of hearing about it. It is about Jerry Sandusky and he is one Sick MFer. But I don't wish to hear about the sickness of the whole situation every time some ball player commits to PSU because it will happens 25 times a year in Football, and 5 times a year in BB every year. And I am getting off this forum if I have to hear these childesh threads by Jarhead and crew all the time about Pedofiles. We all have our skeletons, but I don't want to hear about others. I come to this forum for entertainment and get away from my problems, not to hear about others' malicious problems. This is so disturbing on so many levels. Where in the world do some of these people build their glass houses?

    Then on another note, some poster is concerned about Urban getting out recruited. Just a month ago, he was GOD, and now he is getting out recruited? RELAX!!!!!!!!!!! Obviously he is NOT SOLD on ANYONE he has lost. He only has 15 scholarships as of right now, and he has ridiculously scrutinized 5 of them, and must think the world of the last two as sleepers, since some services don't think as much as he does about them. He is now half done, and he is in no hurry to finish the class. Some of you posters are in a hurry to get recruits when the signing date is 10 months away. NONE of these commitments to any University have SIGNED anything YET! You should have learned something last year. Dymonte Thomas WILL be a Buckeye, and I would not be surprised if others around the country will flip too.

    But always remember the BEST BLUE CHIPPERS almost never verbal until January or February! Relax and give Urban credit. He got all his needs and priorities taken care last year, on top of a solid base that was already here. This is an extremely young team. This year's recruiting class is a year of comfort for him. It is one for STARS. It is a class he can sit back and be a gambler and pick only the cream de la creame elitest of the elite. The Marshalls, and Smiths, and Fosters, and Alexanders, and Posics, and Greens, and Barretts, and Bells, and Bosas, and build a small dynasty to not only win the BlG back to back to back, but also do the same with National Championships.

    But the only difference between Florida and OSU is that after Tebow, he lost his passion for Florida. After his NCs with Braxton, that will not happen, because he will have Barrett or Bailey, and then follow that up with some kid just like them, because Columbus is his last stop. He is a Home Boy!

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  • Catdaddyh said...

    Some very upsetting comments to read here. Every time some kid commits to PSU, I have to hear these Childest comments about "Pedofile U" GET OVER IT GUYS! It is not the whole University, and I am tired of hearing about it. It is about Jerry Sandusky and he is one Sick MFer. But I don't wish to hear about the sickness of the whole situation every time some ball player commits to PSU because it will happens 25 times a year in Football, and 5 times a year in BB every year. And I am getting off this forum if I have to hear these childesh threads by Jarhead and crew all the time about Pedofiles. We all have our skeletons, but I don't want to hear about others. I come to this forum for entertainment and get away from my problems, not to hear about others' malicious problems. This is so disturbing on so many levels. Where in the world do some of these people build their glass houses?

    Then on another note, some poster is concerned about Urban getting out recruited. Just a month ago, he was GOD, and now he is getting out recruited? RELAX!!!!!!!!!!! Obviously he is NOT SOLD on ANYONE he has lost. He only has 15 scholarships as of right now, and he has ridiculously scrutinized 5 of them, and must think the world of the last two as sleepers, since some services don';t think as much as he does about them as he does. He is now half done, and he is in no hurry to finish the class. Some of you posters are in a hurry to get posters when the signing date is 10 months away. NONE of these commitments to any University have SIGNED anything YET! You should have learned something last year. Dymonte Thomas will be a Buckeye, and I would not be surprised if others around the country will flip too.

    But always remember the BEST BLUE CHIPPERS almost never verbal until January or February! Relax and give Urban credit. He got all is needs and priorities taken care last year, on top of a solid base that was already here. This is an extremely young team. This year's recruiting class is a year of comfort for him. It is one for STARS. It is a class he can sit back and be a gambler and pick only the cream de la creame elitest of the elite. The Marshalls, and Smiths, and Fosters, and Alexanders, and Posics, and Greens, and Barretts, and Bells, and Bosas, and build a small dynasty to not only win the BlG back to back to back, but also do the same with National Championships.

    But the only difference between Florida and OSU is that after Tebow, he lost his passion for Florida. After his NCs with Braxton, that will not6 happen, because he will have Barrett or Bailey, and then follow that up with some kid just like them, because Columbus is his last stop. He is a Home Boy!

    Take a deep breath (and maybe a tranquilizer).

    If you don't like the context in which I mentioned "Pedophile State"...sorry, but tough. I wasn't using the term as my desciption of the team, I was explaining that I would expect their players to hear themselves/their team/school called that name over the next year.

    If you can't stand seeing the term mentioned, my sincere suggestion is for you to avoid all threads, discussions, etc. of Penn State until at least the Sandusky trial(s) are complete. I use the plural because I'm sure there will be victim brought civil lawsuits after the criminal proceedings. Unfortunately, in this case, you have come into one such thread.

    As you your second point, I believe you are referring to Murdawgs post "Lets face it...Urb and staff are getting smoked in recruiting right now." If that is the case, IMHO that was pure sarcasm. That's why I razzed him for being a "troll baiter" and he replied with a whistling. So, if that is the post you are referring to, take your own advice and RELAX!!!!!!!! It was a joke.

    JarheadBuck

  • Catdaddyh said...

    t "Pedofile U" GET OVER IT GUYS! It is not the whole University,

    Meh, they said the same thing about the Catholic Church.

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  • Murrdawg69 said...

    Lets face it...Urb and staff are getting smoked in recruiting right now.

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    Posting a Picture of Josef Stalin; One of the biggest Mass Murderers In all of History Will get you NO Friends Comrade!!! If You are proud of & want a Totalitiarian Regime That you & your family can get sent to the Gulags or Shot for any reason; I hear Syria is accepting total Idiots like You! Leave this Message Board & this Country! As we don't need A total Idiot here! GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!

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  • Pretty shocked by this one. I thought we were a lock for him with Woodard recruiting him. I thought he had a visit coming up with Woodard and their families, thought we would get a commit from him at that time. Great for PSU and I'm just as shocked at the clas they have put together so far.
    Hopefully we can get a commit from Mike Hill, although DL isn't a desparate need in this class

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  • Larry Johnson at work. He is very strong on the Eastern Coast.

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  • GetYaWeigtUp said...

    If you wish ill will on the that program and these kids who had nothing to do with that foolishness then you should be thrown in the tank with that creep. Stick to football! You don't need to hope a school loses recruits due to that trash. Just get your guys and go to war with the ones you have and hope you can win too. Its always a lot of sour grapes when a recruit doesn't pick tOSU. Some of yall sound.... whew I almost said it, smh...

    Well said. Let us stick to football. PSU has a new, energetic coach at the flagship program of a football-crazy State coming off a scandal that saw a legendary coach lose his gig. Sound familiar?

    Jerry Sandusky isn't lurking in the hallways of the locker room so why wouldn't these kids commit? Penn State is one of the great sleeping giants in the game, and the right man just might be in place to wake it up.

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