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Heat takes down Pacers, anyone think LePippen quit against Indy?

  • You know what I'm actually on Alpha's side on this one. I used to be that guy back when Jordan played that looked for every excuse to find something wrong with his game. I just could not accept his greatness. Called him a ball hog, could only dunk( early career). Then Jordan left the game and I realized just how great of a player we all got to witness. Folks, you need to accept that players like Lebron come around once every 20 years. Stop being a hater and picking his game apart and just accept what we all have. One hell of a basketball player.

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  • AlphaBuckeye06 said...

    The difference between those guys like MJ, Kobe and Bird was that they had other hall of famers to play with.

    MJ had Hall of famers Pippen and Rodman

    Bird team was stacked! Had Dennis Johnson, McHale and Robert Parrish

    Kobe is my fav NBA player but even he had Shaq who is arguably the most dominat force besides Wilt Chamberlain to ever play the game of baseketball.

    Even Magic had Nba hall of famers James Worthy and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. I assure you Magic doesn't win five rings playing his whole career in Cleveland.

    Until Bron got to Miami he never had anyone close to the level of those guys mentioned. Not close. He had to leave cleveland to get the Hall of fame talent to win like those guys because nobody wants to live and play in Cleveland.

    Kobe has won two titles without Hall of Famers around him. Tim Duncan has won two titles without Hall of Fame talent around him.

    It's not a necessity to win.

    Jackson2340

  • OSUmidwest said...

    You know what I'm actually on Alpha's side on this one. I used to be that guy back when Jordan played that looked for every excuse to find something wrong with his game. I just could not accept his greatness. Called him a ball hog, could only dunk( early career). Then Jordan left the game and I realized just how great of a player we all got to witness. Folks, you need to accept that players like Lebron come around once every 20 years. Stop being a hater and picking his game apart and just accept what we all have. One hell of a basketball player.

    Not one Cleveland fan is going to say that Lebron isn't one of the best 2-3 players in the game, if not the best. We wouldn't be so hurt by him leaving if we thought he sucked.

    All we're saying is the dude doesn't know how to win in big moments, and by big I mean the NBA finals. Keep crowning him the MVP, keep calling him the best player on the planet...we don't care, he hasn't won shit.

    Jackson2340

  • Jackson2340 said...

    Kobe has won two titles without Hall of Famers around him. Tim Duncan has won two titles without Hall of Fame talent around him.

    It's not a necessity to win.

    I wouldn't necessary be surprised if guys like Parker, ginnobili, and Gasol are hall of famers before it's all said and done.

    Can you really say a guy like Chris Mullen and Sam Perkins had a better career then Parker and Ginnobli?

    This post was edited by AlphaBuckeye06 on 5/25/2012 at 9:59 AM

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  • AlphaBuckeye06 said...

    I wouldn't necessary be surprised if guys like Parker, ginnobili, and Gasol are hall of famers before it's all said and done.

    Can you really say a guy like Chris Mullen and Sam Perkins had a better career then Parker and Ginnobli?

    I don't think Sam Perkins is in the Hall of Fame.

    Mullin is borderline, but he was one of the top notch stars of the league when he played. Parker and Ginobli, other than maybe one year each, have been great role players. I don't see either of them getting in.

    Pau Gasol, not even going to sniff it.

    Jackson2340

  • Jackson2340 said...

    I don't think Sam Perkins is in the Hall of Fame.

    Mullin is borderline, but he was one of the top notch stars of the league when he played. Parker and Ginobli, other than maybe one year each, have been great role players. I don't see either of them getting in.

    Pau Gasol, not even going to sniff it.

    People are out of their minds thinking Lebron can't play in big moments. People just remember the big moments he has let them down because there have been so many that the Cavs relied on him.

    Do you remember the playoff game against Orlando? I know I barely do because I was drunk, but I remember him playing out of his mind. Lebron would have had a championship already if he had anyone on that Cavs team worth a crap. I don't know why Cavs fans expected him to stay around after how poor that management team was at trying to get players around him.

    reservemickey

  • reservemickey said...

    Do you remember the playoff game against Orlando? I know I barely do because I was drunk, but I remember him playing out of his mind. Lebron would have had a championship already if he had anyone on that Cavs team worth a crap. I don't know why Cavs fans expected him to stay around after how poor that management team was at trying to get players around him.

    I remember the cavs lost that series, which is the only point I'm trying to make.

    Jackson2340

  • reservemickey said...

    People are out of their minds thinking Lebron can't play in big moments. People just remember the big moments he has let them down because there have been so many that the Cavs relied on him.

    Do you remember the playoff game against Orlando? I know I barely do because I was drunk, but I remember him playing out of his mind. Lebron would have had a championship already if he had anyone on that Cavs team worth a crap. I don't know why Cavs fans expected him to stay around after how poor that management team was at trying to get players around him.

    LeDickface was a beast in the Orlando series. Absolutely unguardable. I blame his supporting cast entirely for not coming through like he did. That was 2009.

    In 2010, LePussy had more support but it was he -- not his teammates -- who decided to have a public meltdown. That cost the Cavs the series.

    The Miami Heat know all about the former -- he was a monster in game 4 and the Heat should be thanking their lucky stars that he bailed their ass out....they looked like they were ready to quit in the first quarter of that game -- and they also know about the latter -- see the NBA finals last year. It is very difficult to win the NBA when your best player has a public meltdown in the middle of a game..ask Miami. For some reason, LeDickface gets a pass for how it went down in Cleveland. F^$% him.

    This post was edited by GenieCarb on 5/25/2012 at 12:33 PM

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  • Jackson2340 said...

    Kobe has won two titles without Hall of Famers around him. Tim Duncan has won two titles without Hall of Fame talent around him.

    It's not a necessity to win.

    Also Dirk won one without Hall of Famers. All I know that the Wade, James, & Bosh gang did not get it done

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