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waufbri1 said...
This is the first topic or whatever I've ever done. I don't understand up/down votes so unless you found a way to take away my birthday, do what you gotta do. If you can take away my B-day, let's be rational and talk it out.
I'm watching the OSU vs Nebraska 2011 replay. And let me say that this is not an attack on any Bucknuts member or I'm right & you guys are jerks whatever. This is just my feelings on the matter. I was frustrated with his performance like everyone else. I bet no one felt more frustrated than Joe Bauserman did. Does anyone doubt that he didn't love being a buckeye? He was devoted to it enough to backup for years without complaint. He did the best he could in a horrible circumstance. Does anyone think he won't deeply regret that, in spite of his best, he disappointed the team he loved the most and left the program a reviled figure? He will have a regret that he will carry for the rest of his life. And people will be the worst about it. You know it. I watch the game and think back over his career and appreciate the fact that he was promoted beyond his ability but he did his best. The same for Zwick or any of the players who didn't succeed (whoever determines what success is). Anyone think they hoped for mediocrity?
The personal attacks on players for on-field performance is just.......unsavory to me. Kicking someone when they're down.
Joe, not that I believe you actually spend time perusing bucknuts soaking up people's opinions, but, if you are, I measure your success in fortitude. You never quit. Regardless of the vitriol. Without complaint. That's strength of character.
Brian
Very true.
However, striking out at a player who screwed up, wasn't good enough, etc. is simple human nature. And when that player is the QB, this is doubly the case (they always get 5x more credit/blame than they deserve). I'm as guilty as anyone of this.
Does this reflect poorly on me (and others who have done it)? Maybe. On the other hand, if you want to eliminate it...you'll have to make the team and sport one that nobody really cares about. (I don't ever recall a "God XYZ sucks" post about fencing, gymnastics or field hockey.)
CFB will ALWAYS be more than a casual interest of fans. And Buckeye Football will NEVER be something OSU fans are indifferent about. So you can not like personal attacks on players...you can even call out those who post such comments. However, IMHO you'll never stop those behaviors. It's just human nature when we're passionate (fanatical) about something.
I can only assume players are big enough fans of their own sport to recognize this and accept it for what it is...primal reactions and nothing personal. Hell, a big part of why a kid decides to come play for OSU is the fanatical fanbase. If he wanted to avoid such things, he probably ought to pick a different sport...or at least choose a school like say Duke or Indiana (where fans don't expect their team to play well/win and are only really following the team until basketball season).
Just my
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thawk127 said...
You won't but I will...
I love the Buckeyes as much as the next guy but I will NEVER hold my tongue about the development of certain positions while Tressel was at the helm. Offensive line and QB development were abhorrent in the last few years of the Tressel era. Too many damn cronies and not enough QUALIFIED coaches. Since we're discussing QB's I'll leave that horrible walrus out of this post but since the loss of coach Daniels, OSU has been haunted with a coach who should have never held the title of QB coach in Siciliano.
Siciliano had NO business coaching. It makes absolutely no sense for a guy to be in a program of the caliber of OSU and not be able to show better than what Bauserman did. Pryor's development as a QB was well below average at best. I would excuse their play and overall improvement as QB's if they were at Akron or Toledo but a school of OSU's preeminence should simply develop better.
I've said it once and I'll say it again, I'm so glad the new regime is here. Better play calling, better development, and better coaching. Many of the Tresselites here will point to his B1G record and conference titles. I too feel that Tress did the best with what he had in coaches - but HE hired the coaches to develop these young men. Therefore, the blame falls squarely on his shoulders. Anyone who thinks that the former offensive coaching staff was on par with the other top programs in the country needs to take off the scarlet and gray glasses.
I dont blame Bauserman. All reports indicated he was a hard worker and never complained about his role. I blame Bollman, Siciliano, and Tress for not only playing a kid like Bauserman but also not having developed him to a point where he would be "READY" after 4 years in the program.
Did Siciliano get another job as a QB coach????
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waufbri1 said...
This is the first topic or whatever I've ever done. I don't understand up/down votes so unless you found a way to take away my birthday, do what you gotta do. If you can take away my B-day, let's be rational and talk it out.
I'm watching the OSU vs Nebraska 2011 replay. And let me say that this is not an attack on any Bucknuts member or I'm right & you guys are jerks whatever. This is just my feelings on the matter. I was frustrated with his performance like everyone else. I bet no one felt more frustrated than Joe Bauserman did. Does anyone doubt that he didn't love being a buckeye? He was devoted to it enough to backup for years without complaint. He did the best he could in a horrible circumstance. Does anyone think he won't deeply regret that, in spite of his best, he disappointed the team he loved the most and left the program a reviled figure? He will have a regret that he will carry for the rest of his life. And people will be the worst about it. You know it. I watch the game and think back over his career and appreciate the fact that he was promoted beyond his ability but he did his best. The same for Zwick or any of the players who didn't succeed (whoever determines what success is). Anyone think they hoped for mediocrity?
The personal attacks on players for on-field performance is just.......unsavory to me. Kicking someone when they're down.
Joe, not that I believe you actually spend time perusing bucknuts soaking up people's opinions, but, if you are, I measure your success in fortitude. You never quit. Regardless of the vitriol. Without complaint. That's strength of character.
Brian
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Ohio State vs Ohio University, 4th & 1 play call
alternapop.com : Like the rest of Buckeye Nation, backup quarterback Joe Bauserman expresses his disappointment with the play call.
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waufbri1 said...
This is the first topic or whatever I've ever done. I don't understand up/down votes so unless you found a way to take away my birthday, do what you gotta do. If you can take away my B-day, let's be rational and talk it out.
I'm watching the OSU vs Nebraska 2011 replay. And let me say that this is not an attack on any Bucknuts member or I'm right & you guys are jerks whatever. This is just my feelings on the matter. I was frustrated with his performance like everyone else. I bet no one felt more frustrated than Joe Bauserman did. Does anyone doubt that he didn't love being a buckeye? He was devoted to it enough to backup for years without complaint. He did the best he could in a horrible circumstance. Does anyone think he won't deeply regret that, in spite of his best, he disappointed the team he loved the most and left the program a reviled figure? He will have a regret that he will carry for the rest of his life. And people will be the worst about it. You know it. I watch the game and think back over his career and appreciate the fact that he was promoted beyond his ability but he did his best. The same for Zwick or any of the players who didn't succeed (whoever determines what success is). Anyone think they hoped for mediocrity?
The personal attacks on players for on-field performance is just.......unsavory to me. Kicking someone when they're down.
Joe, not that I believe you actually spend time perusing bucknuts soaking up people's opinions, but, if you are, I measure your success in fortitude. You never quit. Regardless of the vitriol. Without complaint. That's strength of character.
Brian
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I hope Joe Bauserman reads this......