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yakman said...
Duane, I believe Meyer might had some issues with the press in Gainesville and he was having some problems with some of the brass at Florida, maybe even a booster or two that he wasn't allowed to squelch. I think there's more to it than burn out or a health issue. He wanted out of Florida.
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FlaBuckeye1 said...
Nobody here can seriously say a thing about Luke Fickell until the man has his opportunity to be the HEAD Ball Coach. Different game altogether. Meyer has Been there and done that...more than once. I am not against Fickell, Hell of a Buckeye through and through, but at the end of the day, I want WHOEVER is best...and at this juncture, NOBODY can predict that with any amount of credibility. Let time be the judge.
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Fullback26 said...
Fickell has next to no chance at this job. USA Today is now reporting the NCAA has expanded its investigation to the very beginning of the Tressel Era. That could push the hearing date back to October, with penalties not meted out until January.
If it becomes that serious, even more egregious than previously stated, no way does anyone from this staff get to stay here. The University can't afford the PR of having anyone connected with Tressel staying on when they are about to get slapped for the biggest violations in school history.
Even if it isn't delayed, Ohio State is already in major league trouble, with a major violation on the books. Did Gerald Ford get elected in the 1976 election after taking over for Richard Nixon? Hell no. That would be akin to this.
Tip your cap to Luke, I'm sure he'll do the best he can, but OSU needs to start over completely with someone not connected to Tressel. That still leaves a huge and open cupboard of guys with Ohio ties.
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JarheadBuck said...
I agree with Duane that the sooner things are settled, the better for recruiting. However, I disagree that naming Fickell permanent HC now is the right move.
I simply don't want OSU to have a virgin HC doing OJT. This program deserves better...and that is no slight to a true Buckeye who has played, position coached and coordinated here (all to great success).
I say open the checkbook, hire Meyer now with the public statement he doesn't take over until Jan 2012. That gives Fickell a year of OJT and probably the best resume entry a prospective D1 HC could ever want (took over top program in tremendous turmoil and steered them out from under a cloud). It also gives Meyer a year to re-invigorate and put together the top staff in the country. It gives OSU a year to put this storm behind it before the next coach takes over.
I'd also like to see the wheels huddle with Meyer and Fickell, tell Luke he gets 1yr OJT at OSU and then he needs to go elsewhere as HC for a few years...all the while having a standing offer (secured by an option payment from OSU) to be rehired as "DC / HC-in-waiting" 1yr before Meyer retires. Of course he'd be paid either his former HC salary or the equivalent of $1mil+ salary in '11 dollars (whichever is greater) while being HC-in-waiting...and with a publicly-stated Meyer exit date. Thus, if Meyer retires after 5yr, we get a Fickell with 5yr HC experience who is also comfortable with in-place the staff. If Meyer stays 10yr, Luke gets to have maybe 10yr experience...and paid for the option to bring him back when Meyer is ready to exit. If Luke turns out to be a marginal HC, he at least gets paid for giving OSU the option.
And under all of these scenarios, recruiting is instantly improved because Meyer will be coming in a year...and Fickell has the "circle the wagons" passion now.
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coachjenks said...
Speaking of Bollman, I asked a guy who interned for him for a few years if he was more, less, or equal to Tress when it comes to being conservative with game plans and play calling. My boy really disappointed my be saying he thinks he's evern MORE conservative than Tress! I know thats not the type of news people want to hear...
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grccoins said...
Also on Meyer.......
According to Scout, Florida has had the following recruiting ranks for the 5 years ending in 2010:
1 - 2 - 12 - 21 - 1
which resulted in an 8-5 record this past year. Write it off to Meyer's personal issues etc, they are still there and that's all he could do in a down year in the SEC.
Also what Muschamp does with Meyer's team this year MIGHT give us more insight...
LUKE! LUKE!! LUKE!!!
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ohiost83 said...
If Fickell goes 11-2 type and gets to the Big Ten title game and a BCS bowl, keeping him would not bother me. Give Heacock a huge two year raise to make sure he runs the defense with Haynes and Johnson, and churns out another top 10 defense, and allow Fickell to coach and not worry abou the defense with it in Heacock's hands. OSU got Drayton, give him some more offensive reigns. Get rid of Doc Tressel and Bollman and go after young stud recruiter/coach PJ Fleck from Rutgers, who was on an OSU short list when Drayton was hired. Do that, and OSU could be just fine. Love Urban Meyer, but his health, fire to get back and how long would he hang into coach would be real questions. Fickell if successful his first few years, could be at OSU a long time, and he is young and a great recruiter for his age. Add some ex Buckeyes like Steve Tovar down the road and that could work just fine.
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