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Mcglover claims sex and cash at OSU visit

  • Ex-Auburn Players Claim Systematic Pay-To-Play
    Posted by Brooks on Mar. 29, 2011, 2:10pm
    HBO Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel premieres an hour-long special on the business and ethics of college sports on Wednesday. The first airing is at 10p ET on HBO.

    (Spoiler alert!)
    I have obtained an advance copy of the show and have transcribed excerpts of a portion of the Andrea Kremer-hosted “Pay to Play” segment of the show below.
    The segment contains explosive claims from former Auburn players Chaz Ramsey, Troy Reddick, Stanley McClover and Raven Gray.
    On McClover’s recruitment:
    Kremer voiceover: “McLover said it wasn’t until he attended an all-star camp at Louisiana State University that he realized how the game is played. A game of money and influence.”
    McClover: “Somebody came to me, I don’t even know this person and he was like, ‘we would love for you to come to LSU and he gave me a handshake and it had five hundred dollars in there. … that’s called a money handshake … I grabbed it and I’m like, ‘wow,’ hell I thought ten dollars was a lot of money back then. Five hundred dollars for doing nothing but what I was blessed to do. I was happy.”
    Kremer to McClover: “What did you say to the guy when he hands you five hundred dollars?”
    McClover: “Thank you and I’m seriously thinking about coming to LSU.”
    Kremer voiceover: “But McClover says there were money handshakes from boosters at other football camps too. At Auburn for a couple hundred dollars and at Michigan State. All the schools denied any wrongdoing. And things really started heating up a few months later when he went to Ohio State for an official visit where schools get a chance for one weekend to host prospective athletes. McClover says there were money handshakes from alumni there too. About a thousand dollars. And something else to entice him.”
    McClover: “They send girls my way. I partied. When I got there I met up with a couple guys from the team. We went to a party and they asked me to pick any girl I wanted.”
    Kremer: “Did she offer sexual services?“
    McClover: “Yes.”
    Kremer: “Did you take them?”
    McClover: “Yes.”
    Kremer: “McClover committed to Ohio State right after that weekend. The recruiter at Ohio State who says he dealt with McClover that weekend denied the school was involved in any wrongdoing.”
    On what caused McClover to sign with Auburn over Ohio State:
    Kremer voiceover: “McClover says what he asked for was money. A lot of it. And that he got it. Delivered in a bookbag, exact amount unknown.”
    Kremer to McClover: “You opened it up, what are you thinking?”
    McClover: “I almost passed out. I literally almost passed out I couldn’t believe it was true. I felt like I owed them.”
    Kremer to McClover: “You felt obligated to them (Auburn)?”
    McClover: “I felt totally obligated.”
    Kremer to McClover: “Because of the money?”
    McClover: “Yeah.”
    Troy Reddick talks about his recruitment by Auburn
    Reddick: “I was contacted by a local alumni (of Auburn) and offered a large sum of money.
    Kremer: “What are you thinking?”
    Reddick: “That people are trying to take advantage of me. And I can’t give anybody any kind of power over me.”
    Kremer voiceover: “He (Reddick) says he didn’t take the handout. …
    Reddick on why he was unhappy at Auburn - and the remedy for that unhappiness
    Kremer voiceover: “Reddick was growing increasingly unhappy because he says the (Auburn) coaches wanted him to change his major. Why? Because his class schedule got in the way of football practice.”
    Reddick: “I changed my major, so my classes didn’t interfere no more but I didn’t bother to go because I knew I was only there to play football.”
    Kremer: “So what did you do?”
    Reddick: “I started complaining and insinuating that I was ready to leave any day. They had to do something about that.”
    Kremer voiceover: “The enticement to stay, Reddick says, became clear to him, when one of the coaches approached him after a team meeting.”
    Reddick: “He (Auburn coach) said I got some mail for you up in my office.”
    Kremer to Reddick: “Some mail for you?”
    Reddick: “And I followed him up to his office and he gave me an envelope. I didn’t open there, I walked out to my truck, took off. … It was about 500 dollars.”
    Kremer: “500 dollars in the envelope?”
    Reddick: (nods yes)
    Kremer: “How often did you get the money in the envelope?”
    Reddick: “Over that season it happened like two or three more times. And it happened about six or seven times my senior year.”
    Kremer: “So where do you think the money came from?”
    Reddick: “I think that worry got back to alumni from my hometown. Or it may have been the coaches or the staff but everybody knew I didn’t want to be there.”
    On McClover being paid $4,000 for his performance in the Iron Bowl:
    Kremer voiceover: “Stanley McClover says he was also paid while at school (Auburn). Paid by boosters. Like the time he had his eye on this 1973 Chevy Impala.”
    McClover: “Private owner wanted seven thousand in cash so I went to my booster who I knew and he gave me the money the next day in a bookbag.”
    Kremer voiceover: “McClover says eventually he didn’t have to ask for money, as long as he played well, he’d get paid.”
    Kremer to McClover: “How much was a sack worth?”
    McClover: “Anywhere between 300 and 400 dollars. For one.”
    Kremer to McClover: “I think in one game you had four sacks, what did you earn in that game?”
    McClover: “Four thousand. Against Alabama.”
    Kremer: “Seriously?”
    McClover: “Alabama, a rivalry game.”
    Kremer: “More money because it’s Alabama?”
    McClover: “Definitely. No other game matters.”
    Chaz Ramsey and Raven Gray are interviewed at same time together
    Kremer voiceover: “Chaz Ramsey played for a year (for Auburn) in 2007, and says he too received money handshakes after games.”
    Ramsey: “You walk out and all the fans are waiting for you to sign autographs and everything and some random guy just walks up to you and shakes your hand and there’s a wad full of money.”
    Kremer: “How much are we talking about?”
    Ramsey: “300 or 400 dollars a game.”
    Kremer voiceover: “Raven Gray was a top (Auburn) recruit in 2007, he says people affiliated with Auburn would visit him at his junior college and press the flesh there too.”
    Kremer to Gray: “How much do you think you got?”
    Gray: “Twenty five-hundred to three thousand dollars. Loyalty is the key. This man give me money I’m going to be loyal to him and go to Auburn.”
    Kremer voiceover: “And he did go to Auburn but got injured before he ever played a game.”
    On Ramsey’s motivation for coming forward
    Kremer: “You have an axe to grind?” (Ramsey had a medical claim lawsuit against Auburn recently thrown out.)
    Ramsey: “I’m not out to get anybody, I want high school athletes to know what they’re getting into. This is what college football is really about it, it’s a business.”
    Ramsey and Reddick on selling items made available to Auburn players by the school:
    Ramsey: “I would sell tickets all the time, Iron Bowl you can make a thousand dollars a ticket.”
    Kremer: “How much money did that get you during your time at Auburn?”
    Ramsey: “Five-six thousand dollars probably.”
    Reddick: “I sold my SEC Championship watch right off the stage as we were celebrating in Toomer’s Corner.”
    Kremer: “Why did you sell it?”
    Reddick: “Because it was useless to me. I had to sell all my championship rings to help my sister not go into debt as her house was about to be foreclosed on.”
    I will have more on the HBO Real Sports special as I continue to screen the remainder of the show.

    This post was edited by buckeye9595 on 3/29/2011 at 7:38 PM

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  • Kremer voiceover: “But McClover says there were money handshakes from boosters at other football camps too. At Auburn for a couple hundred dollars and at Michigan State. All the schools denied any wrongdoing. And things really started heating up a few months later when he went to Ohio State for an official visit where schools get a chance for one weekend to host prospective athletes. McClover says there were money handshakes from alumni there too. About a thousand dollars. And something else to entice him.”

    Okay, I've never even heard of this site or this guy. I am guessing another nobody looking to gain some hits?

    This post was edited by ImperialBuckeye on 3/29/2011 at 7:40 PM

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  • AlphaBuckeye06

  • This looks to be outtakes from the upcoming HBO special. Who knows if these kids are being honest but it's not a shock that it goes on.

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    SammyBucks

  • Sports by brooks is one of the most well read sports blogs and averages an audience of 2.5 million visitors a month.

    Also his story is based on a HBO story that is airing tonight. Its not someone looking to try to get hits.

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  • AlphaBuckeye06 said...

    Uh oh!

    Was that Carl Lewis I heard???

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  • If true, Ohio State is a dirtier school than originally thought. Must feel like an idiot for blaming the Special Education Conference all along for their ways. If true, just goes to show we're within arms reach of what we claim them to be.

    This post was edited by ImperialBuckeye on 3/29/2011 at 7:55 PM

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  • Come on People, is there Anybody in their right mind that doesn't believe that schools don't hook these guys up when they come on campus???? They get more in that weekend than most people get in a month.

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  • bennybuckeye said...

    Sports by brooks is one of the most well read sports blogs and averages an audience of 2.5 million visitors a month.

    Also his story is based on a HBO story that is airing tonight. Its not someone looking to try to get hits.

    Fuck SportsByBrooks.

    DubBuck68

  • It is an outtake from HBO REAL SPORTS, airing Wed. at 10pm I believe, Brooks is updating the site more tonight, check it later...

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    buckeye9595

  • this stuff is old (not old news, but it happened long ago....2002, 2001)

    Not that OSU needs another black eye, but nothing is going to come of THIS particular little smear. In fact, probably none of this stuff could even be sustantiated by now. These guys get a freebee saying "OSU did this, OSU gave me hookers"...it plays well because of the circumstances and no one can call them out.

    PCL

  • Keep McClover away from Yahoo Sports. They will definitely expose us, man we have to be a lil bit more discreet with our cheating!

    AlphaBuckeye06

  • Be interesting to see who Mclovin's host were and his recruiter......It is an HBO outtake, not a brooks report....he is providing the transcript ahead of time...who knows how credible the kid is, but not hard to believe the Auburn stuff though...

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  • You can take out OSU and LSU and insert any big time school and you are going to hear the same thing. Kids with hands stretched out will find booster's dollars!

    BretHoovler145481

  • OK - the gist of what I just read is the play-for-pay at Auburn. Certainly damning if true. Also a report of being set up with girls at OSU and getting booster handshakes everywhere he went including OSU. Probably true all over as much as we'd like to think otherwise. Doesn't really feel like another brick in the wall like some of you want to make it. In fact it may finally get the media's interest somewhere other than Columbus.

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  • FYI, hearing McGlover got paid by HBO and exaggerated his story to fit it to what they wanted. Personally, I think all of the news in the past couple of years just makes the NCAA look like a joke.

    Also, sounds like this all will affect Auburn the most with the pay to play issues.

    This post was edited by DubBuck68 on 3/29/2011 at 8:15 PM

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  • People need to wake up and get their heads out of the sand. This kid is not lying about all his experiences. It happens everywhere and if you don't think so you've been living in la la land way to f'ing long.

    Ramsey: “I’m not out to get anybody, I want high school athletes to know what they’re getting into. This is what college football is really about it, it’s a business.”

    Ramsey: “I would sell tickets all the time, Iron Bowl you can make a thousand dollars a ticket.”
    (THIS IS THE EASIEST WAY FOR KIDS TO BANK $$$ AND HAS BEEN GOING ON FOREVER)

    WAKE UP!

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  • Well, the timing certainly could not be worse for OSU, and SPring Presser Wed. for Tress....goood grief..

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  • PCL said...

    this stuff is old (not old news, but it happened long ago....2002, 2001)

    Not that OSU needs another black eye, but nothing is going to come of THIS particular little smear. In fact, probably none of this stuff could even be sustantiated by now. These guys get a freebee saying "OSU did this, OSU gave me hookers"...it plays well because of the circumstances and no one can call them out.

    Isn't the statue of limitations like 7 years? Therefore there may not be any legal recourse since this ancient history.

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  • AlphaBuckeye06 said...

    Keep McClover away from Yahoo Sports. They will definitely expose us, man we have to be a lil bit more discreet with our cheating!

    Isn't this what you wanted all along, Alpha. "Whatever it takes" is your motto, correct? Well, you should be happy it's alllllll coming to fruition.

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  • ImperialBuckeye said...

    Kremer voiceover: “But McClover says there were money handshakes from boosters at other football camps too. At Auburn for a couple hundred dollars and at Michigan State. All the schools denied any wrongdoing. And things really started heating up a few months later when he went to Ohio State for an official visit where schools get a chance for one weekend to host prospective athletes. McClover says there were money handshakes from alumni there too. About a thousand dollars. And something else to entice him.”

    Okay, I've never even heard of this site or this guy. I am guessing another nobody looking to gain some hits?


    I guess only prime athletic recruits are being enticed by the fairer sex at tOSU? And you can't sell your personal property for a profit? Boy, I guess I went to college in the "good ole days". Ha Ha.

    csoto47

  • Alpha, it is simply word against word. No worries bro. Cash isn't traceable.

    Husker Buckeye

  • Interstingly, Mclovin "orally" commited to OSU after that weekend before changing to Auburn. banana

    (sorry, I couldn't resist...)

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  • SECOND PORTION FROM SBB: THE QUOTE ABOUT RAPE IS UNREAL!!!!

    Earlier today, I transcribed a portion of a segment from an upcoming HBO Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel special on college sports - to premiere Wednesday at 10p ET.

    (McClover on his time at Auburn: “I destroyed my life.”)
    That segment, hosted by Andrea Kremer, contained allegations by four former Auburn football players that included an Auburn assistant coach paying former starting Auburn offensive lineman Troy Reddick nearly $5,000 over two seasons to former Auburn starter and ex-NFL player Stanley McClover being paid $4,000 for a single-game performance against Alabama.
    Also making allegations of activity that would be considered against NCAA rules were former Auburn football players Chaz Ramsey and Raven Gray.
    At the end of Kremer’s segment, titled Pay for Play, the host read Auburn’s official response to HBO regarding the allegations by its former players:
    The NCAA turned down repeated interview requests to discuss anything to do with illegal payments, despite new NCAA President Mark Emmert recently saying he wants to be more transparent with the media.
    As for Auburn University, officials declined to comment on quote, “these alleged claims apparently made by a few former football players” and said, quote, “compliance with all NCAA and Southeastern Conference rules is a major emphasis and top priority for all of our athletic programs.
    Here are some additional excerpts of the HBO Real Sports segment conclusion:
    Kremer voiceover: “Whether it’s basketball or football at big time schools, it’ll be no easy task to really crack down on payments because it’s typically an all cash business and very few people want to talk about it, even among teammates, as Troy Reddick remembers.”
    Reddick on camera: “Guys will talk about all kinds of criminal activity but they won’t talk about that because that’s the system that was taking care of them. I believe a guy would talk about raping a girl before he would talk about getting money.”
    McClover on camera: “It really turned me into a monster. When there’s no morals to what you’re doing, you’re just into getting money, I spent it cause I felt like I could get it right back. ‘(Speaking in third person) I don’t want to get a education, I don’t want to go to study hall, I want to get this money.’ It’s all about money. … The decision that I made, is hurting me right now. Now I’ve got to try to find a career, now I’ve got to try to find a way to educate myself so I can talk to people. I’m not proud of what I did and I’ve destroyed my life.”

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