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NCAA heading down a slippery slope

  • bbarr said...

    I realize what happened at Penn State was a terrible, terrible thing. However the NCAA handing down punishment to a school when no NCAA infractions occured is opening themselves up to a lot of things. Should Pitt be punished because their coach (for a short term anyway) was accused of domestic abuse. How about Arkansas getting punished for what Petrino did.

    Again, it was horrible and those involved will be handled through the criminal justice system. I just don't think that the NCAA should have the ability to punish a school for something that does not fall under their purview.

    Posters on this sight have a very clear understanding of what went on at PSU for the last 14 yrs as witnessed by their slam dunk rebuttals. They also have a clear consesus on how PSU can come out of ths tragedy intact. Read Playmea's posts. What you are posting here is uninformed , backword garbage. Thats why you are getting so many d-votes. Paterno would be facing criminal charges if alive. Study the details before you post crap like this.

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  • bbarr said...

    I realize what happened at Penn State was a terrible, terrible thing. However the NCAA handing down punishment to a school when no NCAA infractions occured is opening themselves up to a lot of things. Should Pitt be punished because their coach (for a short term anyway) was accused of domestic abuse. How about Arkansas getting punished for what Petrino did.

    Again, it was horrible and those involved will be handled through the criminal justice system. I just don't think that the NCAA should have the ability to punish a school for something that does not fall under their purview.

    All of the downvotes for this post are ridiculous. Yes, what happened is horrible, EVERYONE GETS THAT. But there are legal, actually constitutional issues involved. As a lawyer, I pay attention to those. This post is actually fairly spot on. I hate what they did, and PSU will pay, but the NCAA is breaking their own rules, and likely laws, to move tomorrow AM without due process. This is a criminal matter, and should be handled as such.

    Before you all rush to judgement, read this article on ESPN:
    http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8188629/penn-state-nittany-lions-not-facing-death-penalty-monday-ncaa-source-says

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  • Are you just trying to get a reaction??? You and the other morons who have maintained this had nothing to do with football must be truly whacked! An active coaching legend was doing some very very naughty things, on the football premises, it was covered up by an active administration and the head coach so that it wouldnt negatively effect the football program. This allowed this naughty stuffy to continue to take place. On top of all this, the head coach has been found to be obstructing justice and ignoring the discliplinary procedures for his players that the school has laid out. The head coach ran the school. If this isnt lack of institutional control, I dont know what is???

    This was all done to protect the competitive advantage of the football program. That is clear, because is they were doing things for the right reasons, they surely wouldnt have made the decisions they made.

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  • My question is how does punishing Penn State help anything in any way? It isn't as if other schools will engage in similar practices just because PSU doesn't get hammered. The people involved were clearly the highest officers of the university and the football program but IMO this is an issue of those people who knew belonging in jail, and not an issue of a football program needing to be punished. Just my two cents.

    If you do punish them, local business will get crushed, and the athletes will need to find new schools. It just doesn't seem to me that anything positive comes from hammering them. It doesn't undo what was done and it directly hurts the innocent members of that community- not to mention the innocent student body.

    Paying players and stuff of that nature needs to be monitored by the NCAA because those practices will continue if they go unchecked. I think it is safe to say that the NCAA doesn't need to punish Penn State in order to prevent another situation like this even if they did gain a competitive advantage.

    This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by jas91 on 7/22/2012 at 8:29 PM

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  • jas91 said...

    My question is how does punishing Penn State help anything in any way? It isn't as if other schools will engage in similar practices just because PSU doesn't get hammered. The people involved were clearly the highest officers of the university and the football program but IMO this is an issue of those people who knew belonging in jail, and not an issue of a football program needing to be punished. Just my two cents.

    If you do punish them, local business will get crushed, and the athletes will need to find new schools. It just doesn't seem to me that anything positive comes from hammering them. It doesn't undo what was done and it directly hurts the innocent members of that community- not to mention the innocent student body.

    Paying players and stuff of that nature needs to be monitored by the NCAA because those practices will continue if they go unchecked. I think it is safe to say that the NCAA doesn't need to punish Penn State in order to prevent another situation like this even if they did gain a competitive advantage.

    Are you serious?

    JJP

  • No offense BBarr, but you couldn't be further from the truth....someone has to hurt them the most and where it hurts the most, to get the point across...as I read their board and fans reaction, it's quite obvious, they don't get the severity of what has happened. Nothing in my 50+ years is a more pure display of LOIC than what we have seen...unfortunately, the poor victims can't do much at this point...the NCAA sure can/will, god hoping its the most severe, unconventional penalites ever...how you can't see this is beyond me. So do me a favor, imagine if one of the victims was your son, would you feel the same way and post what you posted? I think not.I wish I had more down votes for you.

    This post was edited by buckfanoutwest on 7/22/2012 at 8:55 PM

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  • JJP said...

    Are you serious?

    I was. Is there something I'm missing?

    jas91

  • jas91 said...

    I was. Is there something I'm missing?

    Just that I couldn't disagree more and it is beyond me that anyone could think that PSU doesn't deserve to get punished.....the football program covered up 14 years of that shit just so recruits wouldn't think twice about coming to PSU.......not only do I think they should be punished but I think they should get the death penalty.....think about the victims for just one minute....and your worried about how it will affect local businesses? C'mon dude get real

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by JJP on 7/22/2012 at 9:13 PM

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  • JJP said...

    Just that I couldn't disagree more and it is beyond me that anyone could think that PSU doesn't deserve to get punished.....the football program covered up 14 years of that shit just so recruits wouldn't think twice about coming to PSU.......not only do I think they should be punished but I think they should get the death penalty.....think about the victims for just one minute....and your worried about how it will affect local businesses? C'mon dude get real

    OK. I agree that the first priority/thought has to be about the victims. I just don't see how giving PSU the death penalty helps them at all. If I had my way everyone who was part of the cover up should be thrown in jail, but I think giving the death penalty to the program affects too many innocent people and doesn't do much/anything for the victims. We agree that people need to pay for what happened, but in my mind its a question of punishing individuals vs the institution.

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  • jas91 said...

    OK. I agree that the first priority/thought has to be about the victims. I just don't see how giving PSU the death penalty helps them at all. If I had my way everyone who was part of the cover up should be thrown in jail, but I think giving the death penalty to the program affects too many innocent people and doesn't do much/anything for the victims. We agree that people need to pay for what happened, but in my mind its a question of punishing individuals vs the institution.

    Your entitled to your opinion but innocent people are going to get hurt no matter what....just look at the OSU scandal....the bowl ban this year is affecting a ton of innocent people. In opinion though the NCAA needs to come down hard tomorrow morning.

    JJP

  • Ncaa sanctions seem silly and useless in this case. It doesn't punish sandusky or any of the people who allegedly ignored or covered up their suspicions. It doesn't seem like it helps the victims although perhaps they will get a little satisfaction from it. It seems trivial compared to the crimes committed.

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