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OT - Relationship advice....I need some...

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  • BuckeyeSteves said...

    Ok, here is my situation and I am in need of some advice.

    I am in my mid-30's and am engaged to be married next spring. This is going to be my 2nd marriage. I am with a terrific woman who is a little younger then I (late 20's) and am encountering a problem. Back in May I noticed she was acting a bit odd. Not her positive, free-spirited self. I took as she was having a bad couple of days. Well one night I logged onto my computer and had noticed she left her e-mails up. I did not read a single e-mail, but I noticed the name of a guy she had mentioned to me from her past. This wasn't just a normal guy. They have been friends for over 10 years. This guys is married and has a family. However, apparently he is a deuche bag to his wife and cheats on her like crazy. Included in the cheating was a 2 month affair with my fiance before her and I had even met. I was wondering if her communication with this guy was the reason behind her change of attitude. Low and behold my question was answered for me. She talks in her sleep. And amongst her nightly conversation she was apparently talking to a guy with the same name as her former loverboy. I confronted her about it and she cracked like an egg. She told me the whole reason why she cut ties with him was because he coulnd't separate friendship from wanting to f*ck her all the time. He lives 3 hours away. I asked her if she reached out to him or he reached out to her. She told me he e-mailed her. I told her I thought she was lying (just at an attempt to call her bluff) and turns out she indeed contacted him. She assured me the contexts of there exchange was strictly platonic and told me she would tell him that out of respect for me they couldn't be friends. So I chalked it up as such.

    Now fast forward to a couple of days ago. Her and I were sitting on the couch and she happened to lean back while texting on her phone and I noticed a phone # with the area code of where this jackass lives, however his name was conveniently NOT programmed into her phone. So I asked if she has had any contact with him. She looked me straight in the eye and said "No, I haven't.' I went in the other room. About a half hour later, she came into the room where I was and asked me what would prompt me to ask her that. I told her that while she leaned back I saw her phone with the area code of where this a$$hole lives. She then cracked like an egg again. However, this time she informed me that she now doesn't feel texting him is doing anything wrong. She kept ranting and raving about how they have been friends for years and have a lot in common and bs bs bs. I asked her to show me the text messages. She said she had erased them. I found it ironic that she only erased the messages from him, but no one else in her phone from that day. I asked her to put herself in my shoes. Better yet, put herself in her "friends" wifes shoes. Now I have been married once and she knows the reason my marriage collapsed is because I used to be that a$$hole and cheated on my wife every chance I had. She again kept saying "well, I am not you." And to say the least I am pissed. Pissed that I was not only lied to directly to my face, but now on more then one occasion and only about this dickweed. I have always made the comment that if it happened before I came along, I don't give a sh*t. Once she told me she has slept with somewhere around 15-16 guys I was not about to tell her I have been with 3 times that many women. Bottom line is, no matter my feelings, she doesn't view she has done anything wrong. She thinks having slept with him while he was married was acceptible behavior as well.

    I guess at this point what I am trying to figure out is am I being to soft? I know nothing is going on between them in terms of anything "physical." She has a ton of dude friends, which I kind of like. But am I over thinking this? She now refuses to end her friendship with him even after hearing my wishes. What am I to do here? I am pissed beyond belief and I kind of feel betrayed and hurt.

    Sorry for the long winded post, but any feedback would be appreciated. Oh yeah, did I mention her dad played football at tOSU...LOL

    Dude, I have 2 questions for you...One, do you love her and feel like she is your soulmate and best friend? Secondly, how will you feel if she cheats on you with this dickweed once your married...? My suggestion is, don't marry her until you can absolutelly trust her....trust is like a mirror, only works well until it's broken, then never the same again...corny but true...I would also suggest you guys see a counselor, a female counselor as I think the counselor as a woman will explainn how this is hurting you and how inappropriate this behavior is...she is young, as yo mentioned...Good luck but I would bail if she is not wiling to sever all ties with him.

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  • BuckeyeSteves said...

    Ok, here is my situation and I am in need of some advice.

    I am in my mid-30's and am engaged to be married next spring. This is going to be my 2nd marriage. I am with a terrific woman who is a little younger then I (late 20's) and am encountering a problem. Back in May I noticed she was acting a bit odd. Not her positive, free-spirited self. I took as she was having a bad couple of days. Well one night I logged onto my computer and had noticed she left her e-mails up. I did not read a single e-mail, but I noticed the name of a guy she had mentioned to me from her past. This wasn't just a normal guy. They have been friends for over 10 years. This guys is married and has a family. However, apparently he is a deuche bag to his wife and cheats on her like crazy. Included in the cheating was a 2 month affair with my fiance before her and I had even met. I was wondering if her communication with this guy was the reason behind her change of attitude. Low and behold my question was answered for me. She talks in her sleep. And amongst her nightly conversation she was apparently talking to a guy with the same name as her former loverboy. I confronted her about it and she cracked like an egg. She told me the whole reason why she cut ties with him was because he coulnd't separate friendship from wanting to f*ck her all the time. He lives 3 hours away. I asked her if she reached out to him or he reached out to her. She told me he e-mailed her. I told her I thought she was lying (just at an attempt to call her bluff) and turns out she indeed contacted him. She assured me the contexts of there exchange was strictly platonic and told me she would tell him that out of respect for me they couldn't be friends. So I chalked it up as such.

    Now fast forward to a couple of days ago. Her and I were sitting on the couch and she happened to lean back while texting on her phone and I noticed a phone # with the area code of where this jackass lives, however his name was conveniently NOT programmed into her phone. So I asked if she has had any contact with him. She looked me straight in the eye and said "No, I haven't.' I went in the other room. About a half hour later, she came into the room where I was and asked me what would prompt me to ask her that. I told her that while she leaned back I saw her phone with the area code of where this a$$hole lives. She then cracked like an egg again. However, this time she informed me that she now doesn't feel texting him is doing anything wrong. She kept ranting and raving about how they have been friends for years and have a lot in common and bs bs bs. I asked her to show me the text messages. She said she had erased them. I found it ironic that she only erased the messages from him, but no one else in her phone from that day. I asked her to put herself in my shoes. Better yet, put herself in her "friends" wifes shoes. Now I have been married once and she knows the reason my marriage collapsed is because I used to be that a$$hole and cheated on my wife every chance I had. She again kept saying "well, I am not you." And to say the least I am pissed. Pissed that I was not only lied to directly to my face, but now on more then one occasion and only about this dickweed. I have always made the comment that if it happened before I came along, I don't give a sh*t. Once she told me she has slept with somewhere around 15-16 guys I was not about to tell her I have been with 3 times that many women. Bottom line is, no matter my feelings, she doesn't view she has done anything wrong. She thinks having slept with him while he was married was acceptible behavior as well.

    I guess at this point what I am trying to figure out is am I being to soft? I know nothing is going on between them in terms of anything "physical." She has a ton of dude friends, which I kind of like. But am I over thinking this? She now refuses to end her friendship with him even after hearing my wishes. What am I to do here? I am pissed beyond belief and I kind of feel betrayed and hurt.

    Sorry for the long winded post, but any feedback would be appreciated. Oh yeah, did I mention her dad played football at tOSU...LOL

    Get the ring back! Tell her to kick rocks andpeace

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  • buckfanoutwest said...

    Dude, I have 2 questions for you...One, do you love her and feel like she is your soulmate and best friend? Secondly, how will you feel if she cheats on you with this dickweed once your married...? My suggestion is, don't marry her until you can absolutelly trust her....trust is like a mirror, only works well until it's broken, then never the same again...corny but true...I would also suggest you guys see a counselor, a female counselor as I think the counselor as a woman will explainn how this is hurting you and how inappropriate this behavior is...she is young, as yo mentioned...Good luck but I would bail if she is not wiling to sever all ties with him.

    And preferably the counselor not be hot. Chances are that you will get caught ogling

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  • BuckeyeSteves said...

    Ok, here is my situation and I am in need of some advice.

    I am in my mid-30's and am engaged to be married next spring. This is going to be my 2nd marriage. I am with a terrific woman who is a little younger then I (late 20's) and am encountering a problem. Back in May I noticed she was acting a bit odd. Not her positive, free-spirited self. I took as she was having a bad couple of days. Well one night I logged onto my computer and had noticed she left her e-mails up. I did not read a single e-mail, but I noticed the name of a guy she had mentioned to me from her past. This wasn't just a normal guy. They have been friends for over 10 years. This guys is married and has a family. However, apparently he is a deuche bag to his wife and cheats on her like crazy. Included in the cheating was a 2 month affair with my fiance before her and I had even met. I was wondering if her communication with this guy was the reason behind her change of attitude. Low and behold my question was answered for me. She talks in her sleep. And amongst her nightly conversation she was apparently talking to a guy with the same name as her former loverboy. I confronted her about it and she cracked like an egg. She told me the whole reason why she cut ties with him was because he coulnd't separate friendship from wanting to f*ck her all the time. He lives 3 hours away. I asked her if she reached out to him or he reached out to her. She told me he e-mailed her. I told her I thought she was lying (just at an attempt to call her bluff) and turns out she indeed contacted him. She assured me the contexts of there exchange was strictly platonic and told me she would tell him that out of respect for me they couldn't be friends. So I chalked it up as such.

    Now fast forward to a couple of days ago. Her and I were sitting on the couch and she happened to lean back while texting on her phone and I noticed a phone # with the area code of where this jackass lives, however his name was conveniently NOT programmed into her phone. So I asked if she has had any contact with him. She looked me straight in the eye and said "No, I haven't.' I went in the other room. About a half hour later, she came into the room where I was and asked me what would prompt me to ask her that. I told her that while she leaned back I saw her phone with the area code of where this a$$hole lives. She then cracked like an egg again. However, this time she informed me that she now doesn't feel texting him is doing anything wrong. She kept ranting and raving about how they have been friends for years and have a lot in common and bs bs bs. I asked her to show me the text messages. She said she had erased them. I found it ironic that she only erased the messages from him, but no one else in her phone from that day. I asked her to put herself in my shoes. Better yet, put herself in her "friends" wifes shoes. Now I have been married once and she knows the reason my marriage collapsed is because I used to be that a$$hole and cheated on my wife every chance I had. She again kept saying "well, I am not you." And to say the least I am pissed. Pissed that I was not only lied to directly to my face, but now on more then one occasion and only about this dickweed. I have always made the comment that if it happened before I came along, I don't give a sh*t. Once she told me she has slept with somewhere around 15-16 guys I was not about to tell her I have been with 3 times that many women. Bottom line is, no matter my feelings, she doesn't view she has done anything wrong. She thinks having slept with him while he was married was acceptible behavior as well.

    I guess at this point what I am trying to figure out is am I being to soft? I know nothing is going on between them in terms of anything "physical." She has a ton of dude friends, which I kind of like. But am I over thinking this? She now refuses to end her friendship with him even after hearing my wishes. What am I to do here? I am pissed beyond belief and I kind of feel betrayed and hurt.

    Sorry for the long winded post, but any feedback would be appreciated. Oh yeah, did I mention her dad played football at tOSU...LOL

    RUN!!!!! Before you make a big mistake if this guy presents a problem for you andshe has already lied about her contact with him...Shes holding on and can't let go of something there.Shes slapping you right in the face with it.Get out of this before you make a bigger mistake or @ the very least call off the wedding!!!!!

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  • and at that 5 year mark, there will be several men proud as a peacock knowing they had your wife.

    mahlonj

  • Why would she delete his text messages? That was the clincher for me. I dont delete anyone's text messages.

    Why did she lie about him twice?

    I echo what Duane says. This wont get better. Divorced in less than 5.

    Trust is the MOST IMPORTANT THING in a relationship. Second is getting along with family and close friends.

    I will tell you the same thing I just told a good friend going through a similar issue - "If she is your soulmate, she would understand how this makes you feel and she would cut him out of her life". Previous boyfriends and f*** buddies are usually always trouble.

    This post was edited by bengalbux on 9/13/2011 at 6:13 PM

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  • Sorry to hear about your problem brother. I was in a similar situation back in college and kept trying to make it work. It is tough to be honest with yourself but I had some good friends step in and set me straight. I like to think of everyone on here as friends so I would listen to their advice. It might not what you want to hear but it is what you need to hear. She is not the one for you and you have plenty of time to find the right one. My advice is the sooner you end it the better.

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  • BuckeyeSteves said...

    Ok, here is my situation and I am in need of some advice.

    I am in my mid-30's and am engaged to be married next spring. This is going to be my 2nd marriage. I am with a terrific woman who is a little younger then I (late 20's) and am encountering a problem. Back in May I noticed she was acting a bit odd. Not her positive, free-spirited self. I took as she was having a bad couple of days. Well one night I logged onto my computer and had noticed she left her e-mails up. I did not read a single e-mail, but I noticed the name of a guy she had mentioned to me from her past. This wasn't just a normal guy. They have been friends for over 10 years. This guys is married and has a family. However, apparently he is a deuche bag to his wife and cheats on her like crazy. Included in the cheating was a 2 month affair with my fiance before her and I had even met. I was wondering if her communication with this guy was the reason behind her change of attitude. Low and behold my question was answered for me. She talks in her sleep. And amongst her nightly conversation she was apparently talking to a guy with the same name as her former loverboy. I confronted her about it and she cracked like an egg. She told me the whole reason why she cut ties with him was because he coulnd't separate friendship from wanting to f*ck her all the time. He lives 3 hours away. I asked her if she reached out to him or he reached out to her. She told me he e-mailed her. I told her I thought she was lying (just at an attempt to call her bluff) and turns out she indeed contacted him. She assured me the contexts of there exchange was strictly platonic and told me she would tell him that out of respect for me they couldn't be friends. So I chalked it up as such.

    Now fast forward to a couple of days ago. Her and I were sitting on the couch and she happened to lean back while texting on her phone and I noticed a phone # with the area code of where this jackass lives, however his name was conveniently NOT programmed into her phone. So I asked if she has had any contact with him. She looked me straight in the eye and said "No, I haven't.' I went in the other room. About a half hour later, she came into the room where I was and asked me what would prompt me to ask her that. I told her that while she leaned back I saw her phone with the area code of where this a$$hole lives. She then cracked like an egg again. However, this time she informed me that she now doesn't feel texting him is doing anything wrong. She kept ranting and raving about how they have been friends for years and have a lot in common and bs bs bs. I asked her to show me the text messages. She said she had erased them. I found it ironic that she only erased the messages from him, but no one else in her phone from that day. I asked her to put herself in my shoes. Better yet, put herself in her "friends" wifes shoes. Now I have been married once and she knows the reason my marriage collapsed is because I used to be that a$$hole and cheated on my wife every chance I had. She again kept saying "well, I am not you." And to say the least I am pissed. Pissed that I was not only lied to directly to my face, but now on more then one occasion and only about this dickweed. I have always made the comment that if it happened before I came along, I don't give a sh*t. Once she told me she has slept with somewhere around 15-16 guys I was not about to tell her I have been with 3 times that many women. Bottom line is, no matter my feelings, she doesn't view she has done anything wrong. She thinks having slept with him while he was married was acceptible behavior as well.

    I guess at this point what I am trying to figure out is am I being to soft? I know nothing is going on between them in terms of anything "physical." She has a ton of dude friends, which I kind of like. But am I over thinking this? She now refuses to end her friendship with him even after hearing my wishes. What am I to do here? I am pissed beyond belief and I kind of feel betrayed and hurt.

    Sorry for the long winded post, but any feedback would be appreciated. Oh yeah, did I mention her dad played football at tOSU...LOL

    So dude I brought this to my wife and her first reaction was, "How do you know there is nothing physical going on?"

    This is bad news because if she has lied to you before she is probably lying to you now. My wife said if she felt the need to cover it up with you then she clearly knows there is something to hide.

    Marriage is all about trust and it clearly isn't going on here Steve. Youre right to be angry and if she isn't willing to end it then she is prioritizing an old F buddy over you and that just doesn't fly.

    My wife said end it and save yourself the headache and heart ache. I hate to say it but I feel the same.

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  • I agree with everyone else from above. Cut her loose, it's not going to be easy, but it will save you some heartache.

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  • EAGLEBUCKS said...

    Sorry to hear about your problem brother. I was in a similar situation back in college and kept trying to make it work. It is tough to be honest with yourself but I had some good friends step in and set me straight. I like to think of everyone on here as friends so I would listen to their advice. It might not what you want to hear but it is what you need to hear. She is not the one for you and you have plenty of time to find the right one. My advice is the sooner you end it the better.

    Eagle, are you my long lost twin?

    Pretty much the same thing happened to me in college and my friends saved my ass. In fact i ended up marrying one of them a few years later (no homo lol).

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  • If things don't fit, don't commit! Seriously if you are having these thoughts there is a problem. Either she is up to no good or you are too insecure. I'd suggest some type of relationship therapy to work through it assuming you feel she is worth it. Prayer always helps. God bless!

    buckatborder

  • Run.....as fast as you can.

    pazbuc

  • If you want a monogamous relationship then some very good advice has been offered by many here...leave her. As I see it the only way to stay would be to get an experienced couple's therapist who will dig deep into the trust issues and what your woman is looking for in this old relationship. There may be some things that she thinks she needs from him that she is not getting from you. This would be good for you to know. You can then decide whether it is in you to give it, or try to give it.

    A whole other perspective: monogamy is overrated. Trying to get your sexual and intimacy needs met from one person for the rest of your life is like the Buckeye's playing Indiana again over and over. After awhile you just really want to get it on with that one "up north".

    UncleBuckeye

  • Sorry to hear about your issues......

    But after writing that out, I believe you know what the right move is.

    If he's 3 hr away, I'd assume he can easily schedule a business trip and arrange to meet her. Treat her like a bandaid and break it off quick. Get the ring, she'll come crying back, but the truth is, she didn't have an issue w/ a married man, where do you think she'll go the first time you have a fight.....

    The only male friends women have are gay. All others have an agenda.

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