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OT: Ryan Braun's Urine

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  • I don't know if he did it or not and really don't care to be honest but I think MLB screwed up when he offered a DNA test and they declined to take it. He put everything on the table and they were to pussy to take it. Probably out of fear of embarrassment of him passing it. I think thats why the arbitrator ruled in his favor. The collector sounded very believeable about his transactions with the sample. I'm sure he had the arbitrator pretty convinced also but the fact that MLB did't want to take his DNA was all he needed to see that they didn't want to fully cooperate. It makes me believe he was clean... But I would like to see him do the DNA test anyway and show the world that he is clean regardless.

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  • We will know if he bats .250 with 10 homers this year, won't we(see Poppy, Big and Ramirez, M)? If anything testosterone levels in a urine sample should degrade with time, not increase.

    Vetbuck

  • Vetbuck said...

    We will know if he bats .250 with 10 homers this year, won't we(see Poppy, Big and Ramirez, M)? If anything testosterone levels in a urine sample should degrade with time, not increase.

    This will be because he doesn't have Fielder to protect him in the lineup.....that will be the line if this occurs....

    mco68

  • WOW....How convenient of you to leave out his first 3 years in the league and focus on his one down year as "evidence" And btw, those aren't eye popping changes in stats. Nice try though

    CincyOSU

  • CincyOSU said...

    WOW....How convenient of you to leave out his first 3 years in the league and focus on his one down year as "evidence" And btw, those aren't eye popping changes in stats. Nice try though

    To be clear, MLB does not get 'false positives' otherwise the players union would never have approved testing.

    PED's are evolving constantly in laboratories. The old days of Canseco's 'roids or Bond's HGH hulkimania are past. That means the symptoms of PED use will change too (no more pimply Sammy Sosa wearing the tell tale signs on his face.) It is a critical misstep and too simplistic to look at Braun's physique in the initial evaluation (no one would have considered Manny much of a juicer with his moobs).

    The crux of Braun's case was 'chain of custody' not tampering. Braun had synthetic testerone in his sample but because the 3rd party arbitrator (probably from the legal community) felt uncomfortable with MLB's approved storage and shipping system, he cast the deciding vote to overturn the sentence.

    MLB who had just made him the NL MVP and had every reason to give him the benefit of the doubt, did not buy his argument. It was the arbitrator and the players union rep who exonerated Braun.

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  • He knows if he cheated or not regardless of if they found him guilty or not, but if he is guilty and holds a press conference to drag anothers name through the mud just to distance himself even further from the scrutiny then he is pretty low.

    Sack up and tell the truth, thats the least you can do as a man

    Ohioboy1

  • tembuck2 said...

    To be clear, MLB does not get 'false positives' otherwise the players union would never have approved testing.

    PED's are evolving constantly in laboratories. The old days of Canseco's 'roids or Bond's HGH hulkimania are past. That means the symptoms of PED use will change too (no more pimply Sammy Sosa wearing the tell tale signs on his face.) It is a critical misstep and too simplistic to look at Braun's physique in the initial evaluation (no one would have considered Manny much of a juicer with his moobs).

    The crux of Braun's case was 'chain of custody' not tampering. Braun had synthetic testerone in his sample but because the 3rd party arbitrator (probably from the legal community) felt uncomfortable with MLB's approved storage and shipping system, he cast the deciding vote to overturn the sentence.

    MLB who had just made him the NL MVP and had every reason to give him the benefit of the doubt, did not buy his argument. It was the arbitrator and the players union rep who exonerated Braun.

    Totally agree with you. I think he got popped, and got off on a technicality. He should take some advise from another Wisconsin resident, and "deal with it"!

    BTW... +1 to you for the Manny "moobs" comment. Love it!

    edm83

  • Colin Cowherd was talking about this on his his this morning. He brought up so great points, such as both specimens were positive with the exact same banned substance in the same concentration. Think about this. They are saying this guy broke the chain of possession and contaminated it, but then why were both specimens positive? No evidence of tampering on any of the seals.

    Cowherd also said when you get off on a technicality spare us the fake outrage during the press conference emphatically stating your innocence. Spare me...you got paid a lot of money and of course you cheated.

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  • I want to know if it hurt when he peed.

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  • Buckrock said...

    I want to know if it hurt when he peed.

    He had to stop once he started so it wastotally painful.

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