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OT:NBA players should be compensated for playing for team USA...

  • I like Curling. Crazy how that sport sucks me in during the winter Olympics. Talk about true amateurs who sacrifice their day jobs for the love of the game and the opportunity to be an Olympic athlete and ideally a medal winner.

    This post was edited by AtlantaBuck on 4/12/2012 at 12:20 AM

    AtlantaBuck

  • AlphaBuckeye06 said...

    I guarantee when it's all said and done shoe and jersey sales will absolutely THUMP any revenue that gymnastics generate.

    People may watch it more (im not even sure if that's the case or not because hoops is the second most popular sport in the world) but I guaran dam tee nothing brings in the revenue of Olympic hoops.

    You guarandamntee me huh? Well for your information:

    In the period 2001-2004, Olympic revenue generated was:

    Licenses $87 million (for apparel, shoes, coins, pins, stamps - your stuff)
    Ticket sales $411 million
    Sponsorship $1,459million
    TV Rights $2,230million

    Olympic dollars come from TV advertising, not gear. It's the chicks bouncing on the mats and the swimmers making the bucks for the Olympics, not the hoopsters.

    Your guarandamntee aint worth a damn.

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    At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.

    grccoins

  • grccoins said...

    You guarandamntee me huh? Well for your information:

    In the period 2001-2004, Olympic revenue generated was:

    Licenses $87 million (for apparel, shoes, coins, pins, stamps - your stuff) Ticket sales $411 million Sponsorship $1,459million TV Rights $2,230million

    Olympic dollars come from TV advertising, not gear. It's the chicks bouncing on the mats and the swimmers making the bucks for the Olympics, not the hoopsters.

    Your guarandamntee aint worth a damn.

    Interesting. It makes sense. NBC pays big bucks for Olympic coverage and it's not for one sport. It's for "24 hour, multi-network coverage".

    Did I mention I like to watch Curling (and chicks bouncing on the mats)?

    This post was edited by AtlantaBuck on 4/12/2012 at 12:47 AM

    AtlantaBuck

  • grccoins said...

    You guarandamntee me huh? Well for your information:

    In the period 2001-2004, Olympic revenue generated was:

    Licenses $87 million (for apparel, shoes, coins, pins, stamps - your stuff)
    Ticket sales $411 million
    Sponsorship $1,459million
    TV Rights $2,230million

    Olympic dollars come from TV advertising, not gear. It's the chicks bouncing on the mats and the swimmers making the bucks for the Olympics, not the hoopsters.

    Your guarandamntee aint worth a damn.

    Give me a break down of the ratings for the gold medal hoops game and the gymnastics because hoops factor into that tv rating. I would say hoops have a larger impact on tv ratings then gymnastics do for licenses.

    Also it's also track field that gather large ratings as well.

    This post was edited by AlphaBuckeye06 on 4/12/2012 at 12:49 AM

    AlphaBuckeye06 ●

  • AlphaBuckeye06 said...

    Give me a break down of the ratings for the gold medal hoops game and the gymnastics because hoops factor into that tv rating. I would hey hoops have a larger impact on tv ratings then gymnastics do for licenses.

    Also it's also track field that gather large ratings as well.

    I personally can't stand figure skating. But it's a huge t.v. deal. Always in prime time.

    AtlantaBuck

  • The NBA is loaded with self absorbed jerks. Thats one reason its hard to watch. Its not like it would matter anyway. These entitled fools are broke 10 years after retirement anyway. The money theyd make for playing on the Olympic team would last an extra 12 hours the way these guys blow through cash. Ive always thought Wade was a piece of garbage

    95buckeye

  • AlphaBuckeye06 said...

    And the people who make money off their ticket sales and Olympic jerseys make unreal amounts too. Why shouldn't they get a piece of the pie?

    Same way the athletes are blessed so are the companies who rack in the millions off them.

    Put it like this, the $$$$ and Olympics go down a significant amount if you send a bunch of bum college players over there to get blasted.

    You see that's the problem with the players today. Their heads are out of whack, they are employees and deserve to get paid handsomely for their efforts, but to share in revenues from the owners is a joke. Try going to the owner of any normal company and say I deserve x percent more than my salary. Remember the feeling of his pointed shoe up your ass.

    You are correct there is a ton of money made on jersey sales, but guess what players. Make a bunch of money like Jordan and don't spend it all before you are done playing, Maybe get some others and buy a team... Then you can get your jersey money because you now deserve it.

    Why do players feel so entitled now? Look back when pro sports were just starting out and the guys had to hold another job and practice then play games and spend time with their families. Did you hear them bitching? Hell no they did what was needed to become successful and you didn't see 70% of them bankrupt by the time their playing careers were over. This has nothing to do with race it is all about a different time and quality of character. The me me me wasn't attitude wasn't shared by the general population.

    If anything happened with jersey sales it should go to the guys that are retired than never made shit and paved the way for all the youngsters to become multi millionaires before they are 20. Those guys are now in need of health care and they make a pension that is what a grand or two a month? That's a dinner bill for guys that play now.

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    Keyser Soze ●

  • jas91 said...

    That's not his attitude. If it was then he wouldn't play if he wasn't getting paid. He isn't boycotting the games cause he isn't getting paid, so he clearly understands what it means to put on the team USA jersey. There is nothing wrong with saying he thinks he should be paid for doing something that makes many other people very wealthy.

    He doesn't understand what it means to put on a USA jersey. The basketball team is part of the USA Olympic team. Revenues generated help build facilities for the Olympic team. It allow state of the art training facilities that can use state of the art equipment used to train our future olympic athletes IN ALL SPORTS.

    orlbuckeye

  • Keep these two dipshits off the team in the future. Its the Olympics. These two are obviously much more worried about the name on the back of the jersey.

    deeustin89

  • Ok the real question is where does all the Olympic money go?

    I would play for free but if any person is getting profit rather than putting the money towards other sports and worthy causes then I absolutely would want a cut of the $. So you guys are arguing about nothing until you get 100% accountability on where the profits are going .

    So anyone have a breakdown of where all the $ goes? If not than you all look foolish

    TRU JDUB

  • jas91 said...

    The argument is the same argument that is made in college athletics. There are a lot of people making a lot of money selling jerseys, TV time, tickets, etc. The players are the ones that create those sales so they should be cut in on the money. It isn't amateur athletics once there are people involved making tons of money. I agree with Wade and Allen in that as long as people are profiting off of them they should be paid. I don't think they would be looking to get paid if there weren't a few companies and a bunch of people who are making millions off of them.

    The huge difference here is that no one is forcing NBA players to play in the Olympics. If they don't like the fact that they aren't getting paid, the solution is clear: Don't play in the Olympics.

    Systems_id ●

  • Keyser Soze said...

    You see that's the problem with the players today. Their heads are out of whack, they are employees and deserve to get paid handsomely for their efforts, but to share in revenues from the owners is a joke. Try going to the owner of any normal company and say I deserve x percent more than my salary. Remember the feeling of his pointed shoe up your ass.

    You are correct there is a ton of money made on jersey sales, but guess what players. Make a bunch of money like Jordan and don't spend it all before you are done playing, Maybe get some others and buy a team... Then you can get your jersey money because you now deserve it.

    Why do players feel so entitled now? Look back when pro sports were just starting out and the guys had to hold another job and practice then play games and spend time with their families. Did you hear them bitching? Hell no they did what was needed to become successful and you didn't see 70% of them bankrupt by the time their playing careers were over. This has nothing to do with race it is all about a different time and quality of character. The me me me wasn't attitude wasn't shared by the general population.

    If anything happened with jersey sales it should go to the guys that are retired than never made shit and paved the way for all the youngsters to become multi millionaires before they are 20. Those guys are now in need of health care and they make a pension that is what a grand or two a month? That's a dinner bill for guys that play now.

    Disagree on a few things

    1) going to the owner of a regular company is different because that company normally produces a product. Verizon produces cell phones, McDonald's produce food, etc. in this case the players are the product. Say what you want but their not making near as much $ off college players Olmypic jerseys then what their makin off D-Wade jerseys. The ratings will also tank causing a loss of revenue.

    2) when pro sports were starting out the revenue streams were not near as big. People was not willing to pay as much as they are now. As demand goes up, price goes up. That's the capitalistic society we live in.

    3) the world cup soccer team gets paid, why shouldn't the pro basket ball athletes get paid. Both are "representing" USA. Why is it one sided?

    This post was edited by AlphaBuckeye06 on 4/12/2012 at 11:50 AM

    AlphaBuckeye06 ●

  • Systems_id said...

    The huge difference here is that no one is forcing NBA players to play in the Olympics. If they don't like the fact that they aren't getting paid, the solution is clear: Don't play in the Olympics.

    Not that simple because when our best didn't play in 2004 and we lost then people start bitching about how our best didn't want to play and all that bs.

    This post was edited by AlphaBuckeye06 on 4/12/2012 at 11:52 AM

    AlphaBuckeye06 ●

  • AlphaBuckeye06 said...

    Not that simple because when our best didn't play in 2004 and we lost then people start bitching about how our best didn't want to play and all that bs.

    ...and? Who cares what the rest of the public thinks in this matter? It's still a choice they make to play in the Olympics. They don't have to play if pro players feel it's not in their best interest. Not so for College Basketball/Football players.

    This post was edited by Systems_id on 4/12/2012 at 11:58 AM

    Systems_id ●

  • jas91 said...

    The argument is the same argument that is made in college athletics. There are a lot of people making a lot of money selling jerseys, TV time, tickets, etc. The players are the ones that create those sales so they should be cut in on the money. It isn't amateur athletics once there are people involved making tons of money. I agree with Wade and Allen in that as long as people are profiting off of them they should be paid. I don't think they would be looking to get paid if there weren't a few companies and a bunch of people who are making millions off of them.

    I understand what you are saying and partially agree. The Olympics is like college athletics in that other sports need the money that some of the cash cows make in order to survive. Basketball makes the olympics money and only trains on olympic coin part of the year. Other sports have full year training facilities to make the US competitive.

    See Nick Mangold's sister training in femaile weightlifting year round in the Olympic Training Center.

    reservemickey ●

  • Systems_id said...

    ...and? Who cares what the rest of the public thinks in this matter? It's still a choice they make to play in the Olympics. They don't have to play if pro players feel it's not in their best interest. Not so for College Basketball/Football players.

    The public opinion matters a lot. It has a indirect affect on their brand if enough people start hating them for not playing at all. It was a horrible backlash against the NBA last time we sent a B team.

    Now if the Olympic committee decides to pull NBA players from the equation all together that's a different story but they will never do that due to money.

    AlphaBuckeye06 ●

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  • I would vote for an automatic lifetime ban of Dwayne Wade from the Olympic team for making such a stupid comment.

    DocBonez

  • Systems_id said...

    The huge difference here is that no one is forcing NBA players to play in the Olympics. If they don't like the fact that they aren't getting paid, the solution is clear: Don't play in the Olympics.

    Same with college athletics. If they want to get paid they can go play in europe for a couple of years. I don't think college or olympic athletes should be paid to participate/play, but I do think they should be paid a percentage of the jersey sales and what not. To me there is a difference between the two.

    jas91

  • DocBonez said...

    I would vote for an automatic lifetime ban of Dwayne Wade from the Olympic team for making such a stupid comment.

    This is the best idea so far, headslap WELL SAID !!!!

    JJBucki44728

  • AlphaBuckeye06 said...

    Disagree on a few things

    1) going to the owner of a regular company is different because that company normally produces a product. Verizon produces cell phones, McDonald's produce food, etc. in this case the players are the product. Say what you want but their not making near as much $ off college players Olmypic jerseys then what their makin off D-Wade jerseys. The ratings will also tank causing a loss of revenue.

    2) when pro sports were starting out the revenue streams were not near as big. People was not willing to pay as much as they are now. As demand goes up, price goes up. That's the capitalistic society we live in.

    3) the world cup soccer team gets paid, why shouldn't the pro basket ball athletes get paid. Both are "representing" USA. Why is it one sided?

    1 I doubt the Olympic ratings would change by .01% if d-wade didn't play. I do understand that the players are the product, but again they are employees that are under contract to play for a team that is owned by a person(s)

    2 I am all about the capitalistic society that's why our country is the greatest on earth. My point about old school players is the mentality they had, I will do whatever it takes to keep job and play and keep family life good while sleeping 4 hrs a night, and it is an honor to play for my country even if I have to pay my own way.

    The youngsters now....sure they train hard, heck they work their asses of unless you are a part of the .00001% club and being a complete genetic freak is just in your blood. But when it comes to sacrifice they would never say I'm so proud to be on this team I would pay for myself, well maybe talibron or someone with his kind of money

    3 I don't pay attention to soccer unless its world cup or Olympics so i didn't know about WC pay. Now my question to you are the soccer players compensated for the Olympics as well? if so then yes that needs to be looked into, because that wouldn't be fair at all. Then just to be fair it needs to be spread out to all the athletes involved right?

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  • TRU JDUB said...

    Ok the real question is where does all the Olympic money go?

    I would play for free but if any person is getting profit rather than putting the money towards other sports and worthy causes then I absolutely would want a cut of the $. So you guys are arguing about nothing until you get 100% accountability on where the profits are going .

    So anyone have a breakdown of where all the $ goes? If not than you all look foolish

    Ok anyone going to answer?

    TRU JDUB

  • TRU JDUB said...

    Ok anyone going to answer?

    I'm still waiting?

    TRU JDUB

  • Thats a joke! our USA team should be made up of Collegiate athletes. We would still crush everyone and the athletes wouldnt be crying about "working to hard".

    I think those NBA athletes should be put into a "real world" job. Talking about recovery time....PFT....please...you play a freaking game for a living. I understand that its rough on the body and what not but so is any other job. Who in the real world gets "recovery" time NOBODY. its pretty ridiculous if you ask me.

    This country is so messed up when the leader of the free world makes under 500K and the top athlete makes 15Mil a year. Our priorities are so screwed up.

    Thats why i only watch College sports! Atleast when they get paid nobody knows about it and they cant complain about it lol

    GO BUCKS!buckeyes

    This post was edited by Cody on 4/15/2012 at 7:33 AM

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    Cody

  • grccoins said...

    You guarandamntee me huh? Well for your information:

    In the period 2001-2004, Olympic revenue generated was:

    Licenses $87 million (for apparel, shoes, coins, pins, stamps - your stuff) Ticket sales $411 million Sponsorship $1,459million TV Rights $2,230million

    Olympic dollars come from TV advertising, not gear. It's the chicks bouncing on the mats and the swimmers making the bucks for the Olympics, not the hoopsters.

    Your guarandamntee aint worth a damn.

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