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SEC SPEED and SEC BRAINS

  • Likely top five pick Morris Clarborne of LSU scored a 4 on the Wonderlic Test given at the NFL Combine. For those of you not familiar with the test it is a 50 point test given to NFL prospects to determine there aptitude for learning and problem solving. I have taken the test before and honestly most of the 5th graders I teach could score in the twenties or better. Every year some SEC guys take it and score incredibly low - yet they make it through school no problem. Last year's two lowest scores were 10 and 9 by the SEC's Patrick Peterson and AJ Green. Who needs brains if you have that SEC speed I guess.

    JDgopher

  • Leave AJ Green out of this! He is saving my Bengals one catch at a time!

    luthershot 8

  • Maybe we need to give this achievement an award, like the Fulmer Cup.

    CHBuck

  • Pryor's 7 thinks that is bad. Some of these guys don't take this serious and that is why the low score, but isn't it multiple choice? My 2 1/2 year old could get a four coloring in circles.

    shaunsimpson

  • How can anyone go to college for 3 years and score a 3 on that? Someone needs to investigate the academics at Lsu and make sure they are going to class?

    putnambuck

  • JDgopher said...

    Likely top five pick Morris Clarborne of LSU scored a 4 on the Wonderlic Test given at the NFL Combine. For those of you not familiar with the test it is a 50 point test given to NFL prospects to determine there aptitude for learning and problem solving. I have taken the test before and honestly most of the 5th graders I teach could score in the twenties or better. Every year some SEC guys take it and score incredibly low - yet they make it through school no problem. Last year's two lowest scores were 10 and 9 by the SEC's Patrick Peterson and AJ Green. Who needs brains if you have that SEC speed I guess.

    I'm actually stunned shocked and sitting here in disbelief!!!!!!!!!! Somebody should post this on the Blew Board for the rest of those F_ck Bubbles to read. Be prepared to get banned though for hating on the S.E. Sleaze.

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  • That is really pathetic

    Here is the sample test.... http://walterfootball.com/draftwonderlic.php

    I scored a 41... and I'm no Steven Hawking biggrin

    Toddrd1

  • shaunsimpson said...

    Pryor's 7 thinks that is bad. Some of these guys don't take this serious and that is why the low score, but isn't it multiple choice? My 2 1/2 year old could get a four coloring in circles.

    If the reason they score so low is because they don't take it seriously then they are even more idiotic than their low scores indicate. Teams are always looking for ways to seperate players that they project as being equally talented on the field. Millions of dollars have been made and lost due these scores. If you have two WR's even on your draft board and one scores a 23 and the other scores a 12 on the Wonderlic, who are you gonna choose - the guy that has shown the aptitide to learn or the guy who shows he either isn't very bright or doesn't care enough to try and do well on a test given by his future employer?

    JDgopher

  • shaunsimpson said...

    Pryor's 7 thinks that is bad. Some of these guys don't take this serious and that is why the low score, but isn't it multiple choice? My 2 1/2 year old could get a four coloring in circles.

    Yeah, and the guys from the B1G and Pac 10? They just weren't trying when they were getting their 40s timed.....

    Love2H8Blue

  • putnambuck said...

    How can anyone go to college for 3 years and score a 3 on that? Someone needs to investigate the academics at Lsu and make sure they are going to class?

    Have you ever heard an SEC player in a post game interview or press conference?

    Yes, I am generalizing, but the results are an embarrassment to college sports. Many of these kids are only marginally literate. And that is no exaggeration.

    I am not saying that every B1G football player is going to be splitting the atom in his spare time, but they are Rhodes scholars to as compared to the kids typically playing in the south or the SEC to be exact.

    Nutinpa

  • Nutinpa said...

    Have you ever heard an SEC player in a post game interview or press conference?

    Yes, I am generalizing, but the results are an embarrassment to college sports. Many of these kids are only marginally literate. And that is no exaggeration.

    I am not saying that every B1G football player is going to be splitting the atom in his spare time, but they are Rhodes scholars to as compared to the kids typically playing in the south or the SEC to be exact.

    Literacy is a score of 10. Scoring below this likely means that the test-taker is illiterate.

    JDgopher

  • I call it the Sauage Egg n Cheese. I think it's funny that the SEC has a lot of good teams which are in the south, but all of the good NFL teams are in the north. You can't avoid cold weather if you wanna play for a good team in the NFL i.e. New England, Green Bay, New York Giants, Pittsburgh, Denver, Chicago, Detroit didnt do too bad last year, Baltimore, Indianapolis (before Mannings injury) and as few more. I just think thats funny.

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  • Nutinpa said...

    Have you ever heard an SEC player in a post game interview or press conference?

    Yes, I am generalizing, but the results are an embarrassment to college sports. Many of these kids are only marginally literate. And that is no exaggeration.

    I am not saying that every B1G football player is going to be splitting the atom in his spare time, but they are Rhodes scholars to as compared to the kids typically playing in the south or the SEC to be exact.

    I believe Dan Marino and Pryor scored low.
    The real question is how did sec players qualify to enter college.
    Urban was astute enough to require Ohio state to lower academic qualifications before signing his contract.
    Ohio state burdened tressel with tougher standards

    centervilleosu

  • Seems like he outran his brain.

    NYBuck55

  • I wonder if there is any connection to the players who score very low and the former players in the NFL who are broke a few years after retiring.

    Like T.O, I wonder what his test score was?

    shoeview

  • The SEC is just win baby, its not cheating until your caught! Wasn't Anthony Carter at Michigan illiterate? I saw somewhere that he couldn't read. How do you get through Michigan not being able to read? Does someone take your tests for you???

    kurtkevin

  • JDgopher said...

    Likely top five pick Morris Clarborne of LSU scored a 4 on the Wonderlic Test given at the NFL Combine. For those of you not familiar with the test it is a 50 point test given to NFL prospects to determine there aptitude for learning and problem solving. I have taken the test before and honestly most of the 5th graders I teach could score in the twenties or better. Every year some SEC guys take it and score incredibly low - yet they make it through school no problem. Last year's two lowest scores were 10 and 9 by the SEC's Patrick Peterson and AJ Green. Who needs brains if you have that SEC speed I guess.

    Great thread, and thanks to Toddrd1 for the sample test. After taking it, and imagining scoring a 4 or a 7, meaning you'd get 1 or 2 of these correct, that is just flat-out scary.

    At the same time, these are guys who are going to the NFL. They obviously prepared for their chosen line of work. I am sure anyone who makes it to the combine has many other opportunities by virtue of being the best players on their college teams and all the doors that would likely open.

    I have changed my thinking on this over the years. I used to parrot the view that the point of college is an education and that these kids should stay in school. Now? Forget it. I've wised up, probably because I am almost halfway through a career and see how hard it is to make and save money. A one-and-done NBA player can make more in one season that I will make in my career. Anyone telling that kid it makes more sense to stay in school is delusional. I went to college to get a job. Almost every one of us who gets a degree does it for this reason. Does having some education enrich your life? Depends, I guess. An NFL player who scores a 4 might feel just as happy, enriched or content with his life playing XBox and hanging with friends as I am with whatever pursuits I have.

    What do you guys think about this?

    BucksinWA

  • centervilleosu said...

    I believe Dan Marino and Pryor scored low. The real question is how did sec players qualify to enter college. Urban was astute enough to require Ohio state to lower academic qualifications before signing his contract. Ohio state burdened tressel with tougher standards

    I don't doubt this at all.

    Rumors were.....that the last minute "hold up" in Meyer's contract signing was that very issue....academic requirements....or the lowering thereof.
    I don't want to start a sh*t storm here regarding innuendo or imply that tOSU has agreed to lower its standards, but, hey, those were the rumors.

    Meyer isn't stupid. He knows that the string of SEC championships is no fluke as it relates to academic standards or the lack thereof, at least by comparison to other schools. If he could have gotten the Admin to look the other way for even two kids per season, he is taking a step closer to closing the talent gap between the B1G and the SEC. And that gap remains cavernous at least conference to conference.

    Yes, Stanford has proven that you can have high academic standards and still win (but not NCs). But the teams are few and far between. Ask Tyrone Willingham about his experience at ND if you need further proof.

    Nutinpa

  • BucksinWA said...

    Great thread, and thanks to Toddrd1 for the sample test. After taking it, and imagining scoring a 4 or a 7, meaning you'd get 1 or 2 of these correct, that is just flat-out scary.

    At the same time, these are guys who are going to the NFL. They obviously prepared for their chosen line of work. I am sure anyone who makes it to the combine has many other opportunities by virtue of being the best players on their college teams and all the doors that would likely open.

    I have changed my thinking on this over the years. I used to parrot the view that the point of college is an education and that these kids should stay in school. Now? Forget it. I've wised up, probably because I am almost halfway through a career and see how hard it is to make and save money. A one-and-done NBA player can make more in one season that I will make in my career. Anyone telling that kid it makes more sense to stay in school is delusional. I went to college to get a job. Almost every one of us who gets a degree does it for this reason. Does having some education enrich your life? Depends, I guess. An NFL player who scores a 4 might feel just as happy, enriched or content with his life playing XBox and hanging with friends as I am with whatever pursuits I have.

    What do you guys think about this?

    Yeah, maybe. But you're thinking only of the millionaires in B-ball and football. For every one of them, there are hundreds trying to make a living selling their autographs (or their souls) and walking with a limp or limited in some way....and intellectually limited to do anything of substance.

    Nutinpa

  • BucksinWA said...

    Great thread, and thanks to Toddrd1 for the sample test. After taking it, and imagining scoring a 4 or a 7, meaning you'd get 1 or 2 of these correct, that is just flat-out scary.

    At the same time, these are guys who are going to the NFL. They obviously prepared for their chosen line of work. I am sure anyone who makes it to the combine has many other opportunities by virtue of being the best players on their college teams and all the doors that would likely open.

    I have changed my thinking on this over the years. I used to parrot the view that the point of college is an education and that these kids should stay in school. Now? Forget it. I've wised up, probably because I am almost halfway through a career and see how hard it is to make and save money. A one-and-done NBA player can make more in one season that I will make in my career. Anyone telling that kid it makes more sense to stay in school is delusional. I went to college to get a job. Almost every one of us who gets a degree does it for this reason. Does having some education enrich your life? Depends, I guess. An NFL player who scores a 4 might feel just as happy, enriched or content with his life playing XBox and hanging with friends as I am with whatever pursuits I have.

    What do you guys think about this?

    I have no problem with guys leaving early to get paid - if you have the oppurtunity and it best fits you or your family then go for it. I also believe happiness comes from within and money and brains have nothing to do with it. My problem is with the Universities that these guys play for. How are they academically elgible to play? If they are scoring this low on a basic intelligence test how are they staying in school and staying elgible for 3-4 years. My guess is the University provided tutors do the work for them and when they are forced to take a test without the "help" of a tutor, they are exposed.

    JDgopher

  • JDgopher said...

    I have no problem with guys leaving early to get paid - if you have the oppurtunity and it best fits you or your family then go for it. I also believe happiness comes from within and money and brains have nothing to do with it. My problem is with the Universities that these guys play for. How are they academically elgible to play? If they are scoring this low on a basic intelligence test how are they staying in school and staying elgible for 3-4 years. My guess is the University provided tutors do the work for them and when they are forced to take a test without the "help" of a tutor, they are exposed.

    We have a family friend my daughter's age who, for one season (before transferring) played at LSU in a non-revenue sport!! ..... and was amazed as to how the athletes were coddled and taken care of. Tutors -- check. Classes? Tests? Ha !!

    Nutinpa

  • Does it really matter if he is that smart since he plays football? Football players not being the brightest is one stereotype that is overwhelmingly true.

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