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It boils down to the integrity of the conference. Rules are rules, but many have gray areas. As a conference, the SEC chooses to work as far into the gray as possible, and none of the schools will rat each other out. As a conference, the B1G chooses not to do this as a normal practice, and coaches will get called out on it. As unfortunate as it is, money talks and rule followers walk. That's the state of this amateur sport these days.

I agree, but I think the point is to force the NCAA to institute some rules to curb oversigning so that everyone is on the same playing field.

But why? If I'm the SEC I'm making the argument that the b10 should adapt to our rules. It can go both ways. B10 choose not to do it, it's not like the NCAA is saying one conference can and the others cannot.

Like I said, people get caught up with the meaningless mythical word "integrity" which isn't getting you anywhere but a losers attitude and loser/second place quotes like "well at least we don't oversign" while the SEC is celebrating growth, popularity and BCS titles.

I personally don't see anything wrong with over signing. Not one bit

so true..

JC's quote is correct but it doesn't address how the numbers work out.

Many times I agree with you but here I absolutely do not. As a former college Athelete I know how it feels to be at the mercy of a coach to a degree. I know that it is big money in athletics but if not for the student Athelete they would not be making a dime. And your telling me the athletes themselves deserve no protection. As a athlete representing a University you are suppose to work hard on the field which many weeks consumes 25-30 hrs a week including practice weight room ext ect, work hard in the classroom and stay out of trouble so that you don't embarrass your team your family for coach or your university. And yet the coach should be able to discard you at the first sign of weakness or inability to play at the level he thought.. Well I could not disagree more with you. It is absolutely unethical anyway you flip the coin... I'm all for being aggressive and pushing things to the limit that's just how I'm wired but if it comes at the expense of not being able to lay your head on the pillow at night and feel good about yourself then count me out.

Do you know how well coaches get to k ow these kids during the recruting process? Some get to know each other very well and have relationships. They trust their coaches and it's not right that these coaches can offer a kid a scholarship and then take it away by forcing them off the team with various tactics because they recruited far more kids that spots.. Alpha why don't we just sign 40 kids a class and have tryouts and those that don't make it are thrown to the curb.. Where do you draw the line.. It seems to me that when it comes to winning you could care less if a line is ever drawn.

I understand your points and it's not anything personal against the student athletes.

BUT it's not like they always show loyalty to the university either. In football how many times do guys leave their programs high and dry because their not getting enough of early playing time? How many leave to go pro early? The players show lack of loyalty in many instances so I don't think loyalty should only go one way.

How often do we see players and recruits say I have to do what's best for "me." Well IMO the programs should be thinking the exact same and that's "What's best for the program" and the SEC has demonstrated over signing is exactly that.

Im kind of on the fence with this. There is definite natural attrition that puts teams that don't oversign at a disadvantage but the oversigning by 10-12 is just ridiculous. Coaches should be help responsible their recruits they bring in. If they they make a bad decision then they should have to live with it. I think the rule should be at 25 but with no back dating schollys.

The issue is that schools that oversign often have very lax academic standards which allows them to take chances on kids that aren't college-ready. Then when they get to college there is a lot more flunking out and academic issues which means there is more attrition during the spring and summer.

I also think they should move up the date that players must be informed that they will no longer be on scholarship. As of now it it at the end of July which leaves almost no time to make a transfer decision.

Also the NCAA needs to drop the rule which make players have to sit out for one year. It's total BS.

The B1G can do this... through early enrollment. If I understand correctly the conference rule is no more than 25 scollies per year, but if a recruit enrolls early and there are scollies from the previous year than they count towards that year... correct?? Also, didn't the SEC just put a rule out that limited teams to signing 25 each year too? The NCAA does have a rule out there... No more than 85 scollies.