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Their fans are delusional. They think they are in national contention every year. This is my personal experience with every ND fan I know.

If I had to sum it up. Basically they mean nothing in the national stage yet their fans think they are in contention for the Nat'l Championship every year.

They are a regional rival in recruiting. Everywhere I look, people are doing their conference grab-assing or cheering for teams with close geographic proximity. F that. If Michigan University and Notre Dame were never relevant again, Ohio State would completely own the Midwest in terms of recruiting. Getting the best players wins you more games. Winning more games means being more attractive to the best athletes. As it is, Ohio State has to compete with Notre Dame for the top athletes in the Midwest. In 2008, we had a monster haul of 5 star athletes. Devier Posey, Mike Adams, Mike Brewster, JB Shugarts, and Terelle Pryor had Buckeye fans excited. Imagine what it would've been like in that class and surrounding classes if Ohio State grabbed 5 star players like Kyle Rudolph, Michael Floyd, Chris Watt, Eric Shrive, Jordan Hicks, Trey Depriest, William Gholston, Donovan Warren, and Seantrel Henderson, all from the Midwest. The team would never lose. However, we don't get all of those players because of other teams recruiting them. That's why I don't like Notre Dame, Alabama, Texas, scUM (although there's many other reasons for that too), USC, or Penn State. Personally, I don't care how good the rest of the B1G or Notre Dame are. Them doing well is a threat to our recruiting. I want the best athletes in the Midwest to go to OSU so we can win national championships.

dmolesky, This is not the case, I have followed the program my entire life. I do not know a single ND fan that thought they would win the Nat'l championship this year, next year, the year before that, etc.

Has anyone watch a ND game on tv? For starters, playing their games at 2:30 because everyone else plays at 3:30 just pisses me off and screams "we are better then you are." Secondly, while watching said ND game on tv have you ever seen the score of another game NOT ND's while their game is going on? Yeah, me either.

Then the tip of the iceburg for me is their refusal to join a conference. And the conference they are thinking about joining is the ACC of all places. ND makes my blood boil.

ND Football....."Even though we haven't been relevant since 1989 we are STILL better then you are." MY ASS!

thank you for the reply's everyone. Go Irish/Go Bucks!!

Arrogance. Notre Dame fans/alumni are the absolute most arrogant people. They not only think they have the greatest program in the world, but they continue to act like they do no wrong. Plus, Notre dame fans are more in love with being an Independant in football than being a fan of the actual football team.

I 100% disagree with this and it seems to be the canned answer. This may have been the case in 1990 but its not today. ND's fans are in tune with reality. We have seen the lack of big wins for the last 20 years.

Yeah i don't think the media in general is a problem for ND love, i think most on here just see how a recruitnik like luginbill makes sweet love to them at every oppurtunity and kind of generalizes it to "all" media. As many have stated i really hate kelly, hes a jackwagon but ND is my 2nd favorite team. When i was a youth i loved watching tony rice and the rocket etc etc until my dad beat it out of me lol:P I hold no ill will whatsoever towards your fine institution but i really enjoy seeing other here make up sweet excuses that border on typical uneducated responses. One that i haven't read so far that probably urks a lot of fans is the perception that a lot of Ohio kids in catholic schools down towards cincy always tend towards ND. I think Urbs is going to stop that trend but im sure that bothers a lot of bucks fans. I hope your experiance on this board was pleasant, don't be a stranger:)

Don't blame ND for that. NBC knows they can get some extra viewership by starting the games earlier then the 3:30 slot. Im ok with them not wanting to join a conference if they make more money that way but i hear you on this point. If they join the fargin ACC just to shove a burr up the the big 10s anus i'll be pretty furious.

There is an arrogance that comes with their history that rubs people the wrong way. But, that is their envy and their problem, not ND's. Some don't like that they continually turn down B1G membership, but as long as NBC keeps doling out the cash, that is the B1G's problem, not ND's. I simply want to see them fail because as a midwestern power Ohio would/is a primary recruiting ground, and recruiting is what wins championships in the long run. In fact, Ohio so populates the B1G I don't really like to see any B1G do well. Screw that inbread SEC crap.

Rambo, how do you spell arrogant?????? N O T R E D A M E......Anger Management II coming to a theatre near you....Staring Brian Kelly........