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Amen brother! Fucking 19 reps on the bench by a 300lb man is embarrassing. adams was outbenched by like five WR at the combine.

Not sure what your saying, "I have been going crazy for ten years watching talent underdeveloped and underutilized."

I've been watching players beat Michigan 9 times out of those ten years, winning a National Championship and competing with the best. I guess we've been watching different teams. Can't say I'm not excited about the future either, because I am unbelievably pumped. Evidently I'm a glass half full guy.

" the NFL will be our grad school!!!!"

I like the way you think

In long coaching tenures there are ups and downs. Respectfully, some seem to forget with our full compliment of players this past season, we contend for a NC. It was the lack of consistent uniform discipline that sank the ship.

Mickey M will be the difference maker for our program as we move forward. If his passion continues to burn hot and the stud players continue to come to Columbus, the future is so bright we will need sunglasses.

I don't have to be an investment banker to know Madoff broke the law. I don't have to be an artist to know that my 6 year old daughter's artwork is not quite ready for the Met. I also don't have to run a 4.3 forty or get drafted in the NFL to know if guys appear out of shape or weak at the combine relative to their peers.

By your same logic no one at Bucknuts should be able to post about football unless they played at tOSU or a similar program. I guess, Mike Leach should quit coaching NCAAF because he never played it.

I stand corrected, other teams were bad, the coaches were poor, but especially the lazy players that came in 3 star but left NFL players.

That's what I am talking about when they say "the sec has Ohio state speed" then we will be doing it right!!!

Correct.

Don't tell me JTs system was crap. tOSU had the best or second-best record in the country over his tenure, _and_ were at the top of the academic APR standings as well. JTs system involved seniors and top players setting the tone and being leaders. Many bought into the system and flourished. Some did not. Pryor and the other Tat 5/7 lost their way, betrayed JTs trust, led their class astray and led to the first 7 loss season in over a century. Some of that is on JT of course, but every coach is dependent on players buying into their system.

Having said that, I think it is clear that a lack of effort and discipline will not be tolerated at tOSU under the current staff. It seems Urban learned from some of the UF off-field stuff and has set the threshold for termination at a different level to send a clear message. Leaders will still emerge in the Meyer/Marotti system, but slackers will disappear rather than ride the bench. Recruiting their replacements will obviously be more intense than in the past. That's great and I'm excited about it, but I think we can celebrate the new without trashing the past.

It's very difficult for 6-foot-7 guys with long arms to be good at the bench unless they are naturally strong (which Mike isn't). Shorter guys with shorter arms (like Kudla) will always have a huge advantage when it comes to the bench.That said, it's still inexcusable to go to the combine and only throw up 19 reps on the bench at 225 pounds. Like others have mentioned, this is something that Mike should have been working on during his suspension, after he came back and especially leading up to the combine. You can argue all day that the bench is overrated, but the fact is that it's one of the big measuring sticks at the combine and you need to be ready for it. Mike was never a guy that had much muscle definition, but it would have been nice to see him at least get over the 20 mark.

Brewster was a big disappointment as a senior. At least Adams was a difference-maker when he came back. Brew had a very substandard season and I'm sure he'd be the first to admit that.

Also, although he slipped a bit in the 40 and put up a "slow" time of 4.66, don't forget that Boom was second among all running backs in the short shuttle, which shows he has outstanding quickness. Herron also threw up 22 reps on the bench. Hopefully Boom surprises a lot of people and carves out a nice NFL career for himself. He likely won't be drafted until the 6th round or so (if he does get drafted) but I bet he makes an active roster somewhere.

Posey will be a nice pickup for someone in the third round if he lasts that far. He'll never have great hands, but he'll still be a good value pick in the third round. Big, physical, good speed ... someone's going to give him a chance and take him somewhat early in the draft.

Predictions:

* Adams: Early-second round (still think late-first is a possibility, but I'm guessing he'll slide to the very early part of the second round).

* Posey: Mid-third round.

* Brewster: Late-fourth round.

* Herron: Mid-to-late-sixth round.