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Buckeyeboy45 said...
How are they going to decide who the final four are? That is another question that needs to be answered. I really don’t want a playoff but if they are going to do it they might as well make it an 8 team playoff. Take the conference champs and 2 at large and make them fight it out at on campus sites. Then have the NC game at a neutral site.
Also I don’t like the fact that if the playoffs would have been part of CFB the last time we won the NC in 2003 we would have had to play another game after the Miami one. I don’t like the thought of that at all. How is being 13-0 not good enough to win the NC.
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McCague said...
The Bowls don't have to go anywhere. A BCS Bowl could be for the championship game and another could be for the semi-final losers. All other Bowls would remain unchanged. Just keep the current Rose Bowl participation rules in effect. Everyone is making this too complicated.
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playmea said...
This is a fantastic debate...
Essentially, an NCAA playoff for football would be fun to watch. Especially if our team is involved. And people are right, it would have considerably more meaning.
However, they aren't considering everything. That would dramatically diminish the meaning of any other games. So if the other bowls remained, their meaning and impact would be minimal at best. They would be reduced to the NIT as far as equivalency.
The NIT survives because its a tournament. Imagine instead if the NIT was a serious of independent privately funded games. Thats what would happen to the remaining bowls. So essentially, they would garner so little income and so little audience that I would predict 75% of the bowls to disappear within 5 years of an established playoff. The reality is, if its not profitable to have a bowl, the bowl won't exist.
The focus would be on an NCAA playoff. Which, I admit, would be very profitable. I would enjoy watching it. But that change of focus WILL impact any other bowls. So we MUST anticipate that a playoff structure will eventually reduce the overall size of the postseason.
Its a tough thing to measure. When you're OSU and you feel like you can make that tournament most years, its a no-brainer. But when you're the 100 other teams out there, this is out of the question.
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CFAbuckeye said...
The only real meaning any non-BCS Championship Bowl game has is bragging rights... that isn't diminished with a playoff system.
"Hurray, we won the Rose Bowl (...but most fans are likely to believe there are 2-6 teams better than us this year...)"
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playmea said...
I disagree and the numbers prove it... If bragging rights were the only meaning, then only fans of those teams would watch or attend. That would mean only the OSU's, Texas and ND's of the world would produce profitable bowls. Yet there are numerous bowls.
The reality is, people watch because they believe either there is an ultimate impact or there is some emotional investment in the game. On top of "bragging rights". An NCAA playoff system would eliminate some of that. If the bowls become less profitable, the bowls disappear.
Your post COMPLETELY ignores the overall financial impact. Despite what many believe, the bowls don't exist to service your needs. The bowls exist to generate revenue.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by CFAbuckeye on 4/26/2012 at 10:45 AM
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CFAbuckeye said...
Bragging rights is what the teams and fanbases are playing for - and that's really the only 'trophy'. As I stated, compelling match ups of top programs, top players, power leagues is why I and other non-affiliated groups would continue to watch. Maybe you hate one of the teams playing and want to see them lose... maybe you're hoping a team from your conference wins...maybe you want to see if the hyped-QB from conference X that you haven't really seen is really that good. All very compelling reasons to watch, and just like currently, that is what would continue to drive ratings and produce revenue.
If you're worried that a playoff system would be a slippery slope and lead to the elimination of ALL bowl games, then I disagee (but I don't think you're saying that). If you're suggesting some bowl games would fail because now there is a better product, then I agree. I just think it will be the 'lesser bowl games' (some of which we have seen fail under the current environment).
But if the cost of a playoff is the Go Daddy.com Bowl, then that is a price I am willing to pay.
[edit to say I deleted the part in my first post that stated the 'compelling reasons'. my response was getting too long so I opted for a much more concese post. So I can definitely see why you replied the way to did Playmea. Hope the above post doesn't sound unwarrantly aggressive.]
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McCague said...
The Bowls don't have to go anywhere. A BCS Bowl could be for the championship game and another could be for the semi-final losers. All other Bowls would remain unchanged. Just keep the current Rose Bowl participation rules in effect. Everyone is making this too complicated.
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CFAbuckeye said...
I wouldn't say 'more than football'. If no playoffs meant no football... I wouldn't want that. But since I can't think of a scenario where that wourld be required...
But Yes. I am a fan of competition at the highest level more so than I am a fan of continuing something that was started a long, long time ago... under conditions and cirmcumstanes that aren't relevant today.
All new traditions have to start somewhere, sometime. And it's a good thing if some traditions die.
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to playoff or not to playoff?