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And his Rose Bowl record wasn't great either. But Hoke will have an undefeated Rose Bowl record, for sure. 0-0.

I agree a lot with ya +1 I see hoke being a lot like Lloyd, and that is fine with me or maybe a bit like john cooper. I mean, cooper was a great recruiter, and I see hoke being able to recruit, but I see him comming up short in big games, just like cooop.

Schembechler never lost 5 games or more in a season, until his 16th season at TSUN. In his first 10 years at Michigan, he either won the B1G outright, or tied for the league championship 8 times. The other two times, he finished second. Hoke has already had his first 5 loss season, and needs to win the B1G for the next 8 seasons in a row to be in the conversation. Michigan has yet to win its own division under Hoke, to even have the opportunity to finish second in the B1G. I have not gone to the TSUN thread, but can only guess that the individual who made the claim knows very little about his team's history, or how great a coach that Bo was...which is a shame. Not to defend Hoke, but it really isn't fair to even begin to compare him to Bo.

Hoke's success all depends on how long he can keep Greg Mattison in AA.

Now that is some funny chit

I think the fans are excited that Hoke is getting them back to what worked for so many years... power football. He is obviously looking to go back to a pro-style offense that centers on the running game and play-action. People were so tired of RR that a return to the familiar has brought a lot of optimism, but with not real track record of big time success, this claim that Hoke will be the next Bo is unfounded at this point in time.

Like many others on this board, I do think they are recruiting very well, especially for what they are trying to do, but I also think that UFM is recruiting that much better. scUM will be very good for the foreseeable future, unfortunately, they are going to be going up tOSU in what appears to be another peak in the programs history. I am excited to see how things play out, because I do see a couple meetings between undefeated teams in "The Game" sometime in the future.

Hoke had one good year when the conference and tOSU was down and won a game against VT that quite frankly probably should have gone the other way. This past season he came crashing back down to earth with a very mediocre season and while they seem to be heading in the right direction, I think to compare him to Bo at this point in time is beyond delusional, but only time will tell.

I completely agree with this, Mattison is running a pupet regime up north, Wonder if he hadnt already been in place if Meyer would have tried to reunite with him?

Hoke has yet to win a conference title any plave he has coached.

Hoke is building a Tressel clone team. The problem is down here Urban is building a different type of skilled team that Tressel never saw in the B1G.

And we remember what happened when Tressel ran into that type of team. Florida and LSU.

He's recruiting well, but that isn't the point. He needs to win something first. Even Zook went to a Rose Bowl. I am
Not saying he will never be good, I'm saying he's still never won anything. At any place he's coached.

If Hoke can come up with a new wrinkle to use all those lineman, he may have a shot at it. He really needs to get some top rugby hb's to pull it off tho.