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I mean its like... so what we beat Michigan in a heated rivalry game in Ann Arbor and then turn around rematch them in the B1G CG and then lets say they beat us so they get in??... Everyone can list certain games, certain seasons, certain situations that the BCS could have either worked out or not worked out. (examples 2002-2003 OSU good!, 2004-2005(i think) Aub USC Oklahoma bad.) But the fact of the matter is you are taking away A LOT of importance of each individual game. Let's say we lose to Wisc, "O well, we can still make the playoffs." It's so lame, you are taking away the passion of the season. Ya ok it would be cool to make the playoffs for the first time bla bla but I'm tellin ya you either get a 2-3 game season, or 12-14 game season. And where would our rivalry with Michigan be really? Don't get me wrong I know how hardcore OSU fans are as I am one of them but lets back up to 1996. We go undefeated and lose to Scum. "O well, we have the playoffs." 1995 SAME THING "O well, we have the playoffs." It's like fuck that we got beat we are fucking crushed and that is EXACTLY WHAT COLLEGE FOOTBALL IS ABOUT! Rivalries will be watered down and the overall passion of each and every individual game will be tainted if a playoff is implemented.

But BuckDigger does anyone know if Oklahoma State would not have been able to beat either team.

A 4 or 8 team playoff is garbage, because it is subjective to the rankings and you will always have someone that believes that they were left out. If it were a 4 team playoff than both Arkansas is left out and they would be complaining as would Boise State. In an 8 team than wisconsin, Michigan State, and ann arbor tech are complaining. Additionally depending on the poll than South Carolina gets in. The sec is a good conference but they do not deserve to have 4 teams in an 8 team playoff system.

Well said Harrysally. College football is about the rivalries. I think it stinks that Ohio State may play ann arbor tech twice a year now. This is coming from an Ohio State fan that lived through and remembers the 90's. That is also why the greatest college basketball rivalry (Duke and North Carolina) will never compete with what was your traditional College Football rivalries. Duke and North Carolina, depending on how the playoffs (conference and NCAA's) are seeded may play as many as 4 times in one year. Give me the one and done and let me have ecstatic joy for a year or crushing defeat for a year. It makes the wins so much sweeter.

You from Penn State?

No I'm saying that with a small playoff at least more teams are able to try to compete for the title (or sale if you will) instead of just 2 voted on teams playing, there would be more. Sure there would have to be voting involved. But if there was say 8 available spots, its pretty easy to come up with 8 teams that "might" be contenders. One undefeated team, 6 1 loss teams, and a team with 2 losses (but against good teams). Then let them play. It takes out any questions. And then teams will schedule up because they can still have a chance. Right now, most teams schedule easier games cause they know if they have 1 loss they'll never get even a look. Right now, no matter how good a team might be, they still won't get the chance if not popular enough. Really, look at the circumstance OK ST was in the day they lost. But they lost so they're out. How about this? Alabama lost to a team that got destroyed last night. So who's better? Who knows? Because other possible teams were not allowed to compete.

Actually you are correct on those assumptions. I am 23 years old and I grew up in Ohio and tOSU will never leave my heart. I fear that kids growing up in this decade won't feel as passionately because 1. tOSU won't have to go undefeated to get a chance at the National Title, in fact they would lose a couple games and no sweat we are in. 2. The OSU-Michigan rivalry will be watered down due to this fact. "Oh well we got beat by Michigan, we still have a shot though." I grew up and it was like the world ended on that day! haha. For me, its all about the PASSION and the EMOTION and not always the trophies, although I would be lying if I said I wouldn't want tOSU coming back with it.

I feel that if we have a eight team playoff this will get all the attention and the regular bowls would become menaningless and could end up failing due to lack of attendance and interest.

Any thoughts on this?

Yeah, people always forget about that. Be able to bring in literally ANY top athlete and if they dont pan out quit cheating for them academically so they fail out.....or just flat out cut/grey shirt etc. them if that doesnt work.

The Pac and B1G should lead the way on forcing the BCS conferences to play by the same rules basically. Or as close as possible

Apology accepted....I respect your point of view. If you feel it is okay as is, then I certainly understand your protest to any playoff system. If it ain't broke...... :)

My point of view has always been about the unbalanced schedule. We have seen many years when a 12-0 team was not as good as an 11-1 or even a 10-2 team, because the 12-0 team simply didn't play anyone.

But the voters often kept the 12-0 team out. This system assures that we miss no one.

Yes, I'm thinking big, and I don't pretend for a minute that the NCAA would jump off the cliff with a 32 team playoff. BUT....they are always flinging this and that. What about the bowl structure? What about the revenue? The 32 team format eliminates all of their excuses and it also eliminates this 45 day layoff between games.

It used to be, what about the student athletes? Well they have now stomped all over their own argument.

Just for the record, I’m also for a 20 week NFL season, 18 games and 2 bye weeks. Have the Super Bowl on the final Sunday of February minus the two week layoff. That two is in absolute money maker.

I think this is a great idea, I only hope they give the better ranked teams home field advantage. This would benefit OSU so much. And home field advantage would make it critical to win every game as it would be incredibly tough to have to play in a much colder or warmer climate. Even with out home field advantage I don't think this takes a way from the season. If a team looses 1 game, there's still a good chance that they may not land as a top 4 team at the end of the season. There still maybe a lot controversy for which ever teams that don't qualify as a playoff team, but if done right it could make things more balanced, and definitely more interesting.

Thank you......I've sent it to every entity that I can think of. Most of the time they see 32 teams and throw it right down. Just like March Madness....in the matter of 48 hours, that 32 team field is quickly cut to 16.

Okay, let's schedule Akron to open the season, but then let's schedule home and home with an Ole Miss or Texas Tech. If we show strong in the pre-conference and win the conference, we should get a high seed and host maybe a MAC or WAC school in the first round of the playoffs. And maybe bring the Gators or Georgia to the 'Shoe the following week!

Seeding is vital, and keeps every regular season game relevant. Strength of schedule should now come into play.

I just don't see anything wrong with playing it on the field instead of ballots.

How about the fact that the NCAA only allows you to play one post-season game unless you have a 12+ team conference and then you can have a conference championship game?

The two things playoff proponents always ignore is the NCAA and the bowls themselves. To allow a multi-round playoff you will have to get the NCAA's permission, and what amount of the pocketbook will the NCAA demand in return for changing the rules? The college presidents are against a playoff, and they effectively make up the NCAA membership, so people can plan all they want but the NCAA can shoot it down in the end. Or the NCAA may demand a piece of the pie that the BCS now controls 100%. Does the BCS give up money and control to satisfy a portion of the fanbase? You decide.

Additionally, what if the major bowls don't go along with it? Money talks. You are asking the major bowls to forgo their shot at having the best teams in their games. Suppose you set up a playoff with the bowls as the option for the losing teams. Lets just say OSU and USC are the top two teams in the country. They can run the gauntlet of a playoff, or the Rose Bowl says to them - forget the playoff, we'll pay you a bajillion dollars to play each other in the Rose Bowl and we'll give the winner a Rose Bowl National Championship Trophy. People can hoist their BCS playoff trophy, but if we have #1 and #2, everyone including the AP is going to crown you the true national champion.

Bye bye playoff.

You're ridiculous. A playoff is necessary and will happen. Voting teams into position is the most idiotic way to decide a champion. There is no bye week with a 4-team playoff. Are you serious? Read your post before you press "post reply" next time. Even the proposed "playoff" isn't the right fix. But it is a step in the right direction. Need to can all the bowls. What a bunch of shitty games anyway. The MAACO bowl? Really? How about the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl. Give me a damn break. How about you shitty 6-6, 7-5 and 8-4 teams stay the hell home.