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Boise State would win Big Ten

  • drmiller166 said...

    I think it's funny that someone could watch today's game and think that Florida would run the table in the Big Ten. We were a mediocre team in our conference. Florida beat us in an ugly game that wasn't impressive for either team. I think they proved that they're just about the same level as us. They scored one touchdown on our defense. They're not a good team. They're mediocre like we are, which means they'd probably finish in the middle of the pack in the Big Ten.

    Also remember this game was in Florida. What happens if our mediocre team plays their mediocre team in Cleveland? Maybe we win an ugly game, just like they did in their home state. If you were impressed by Florida today, you don't know anything about football. They beat us, but they showed that they're on the same level as us. This year, that's not a good thing.

    drmiller166

  • drmiller166 said...

    I think it's funny that someone could watch today's game and think that Florida would run the table in the Big Ten. We were a mediocre team in our conference. Florida beat us in an ugly game that wasn't impressive for either team. I think they proved that they're just about the same level as us. They scored one touchdown on our defense. They're not a good team. They're mediocre like we are, which means they'd probably finish in the middle of the pack in the Big Ten.

    the teams in the big10 title game had 2 losses. they wouldn't need to run the table to win the big

    This post was edited by OSUrox on 1/2/2012 at 5:01 PM

    OSUrox

  • drmiller166 said...

    I think it's funny that someone could watch today's game and think that Florida would run the table in the Big Ten. We were a mediocre team in our conference. Florida beat us in an ugly game that wasn't impressive for either team. I think they proved that they're just about the same level as us. They scored one touchdown on our defense. They're not a good team. They're mediocre like we are, which means they'd probably finish in the middle of the pack in the Big Ten.

    I dont think hey win the BIG at all, I think Boise would clean house in the BIG. IMO Florida is Penn st. Terrible offense and a solid D. Not sure they could score enough against Wiscy or scUM.

    Having said that, Florida IMO could have scored alot more today. How many possessions were taken because of special teams? How many possessions were they playing it safe and running out the clock? A little Tressel ball today?

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    BriGuy

  • While Boise St when given time can match up against a lot of poeple, playing a whole season through the B10 without injuries ect, is another story. I thought this was explained the last time Boise St running the table in a big conference was brought up? shrug

    Ven

  • buckibball4ever said...

    If Ohio State can beat Wisconsin this season and came close to beating Michigan State, Michigan, Nebraska and a whole slew of other teams then Florida would have ran the table in the Big Ten. It's all about coaching and talent. Boise State's QB is a good passing QB and the Big Ten has Russell Wilson and the kid out of Michigan State that's it. Boise State did beat Georgia in Atlanta. Georgia beat Michigan State.

    MSU beat Georgia.

    Brute Buck

  • I find it funny that florida won but there are all these posts about how average they are and they have all these weaknesses. Yet when people call out weaknesses after a buckeyes win, they are negabucks.

    I am not saying florida is a world beater this year. but i am saying 2 of their losses were against LSU and ALA. If we can agree that there are no teams like LSU and ALA in the big, then they could easily be 8-4 in the big without a blink.

    I don't think it's that far of a stretch to say they could win another game or 2 and get to 9 or 10 wins like some have pointed out.

    OSUrox

  • OSUrox said...

    I find it funny that florida won but there are all these posts about how average they are and they have all these weaknesses. Yet when people call out weaknesses after a buckeyes win, they are negabucks.

    I am not saying florida is a world beater this year. but i am saying 2 of their losses were against LSU and ALA. If we can agree that there are no teams like LSU and ALA in the big, then they could easily be 8-4 in the big without a blink.

    I don't think it's that far of a stretch to say they could win another game or 2 and get to 9 or 10 wins like some have pointed out.

    Possibly. The big thing people don't take into account when talking about tcu or Boise is that they generally play one or two big games a year with months to prepare. Playing the first and last game of the season against legitimate teams and playing no he in the middle is prime to get some upsets. If they had to get hit week in and week out with big conference opponents they would have a much tougher time. Especially having to play games at the shoe, at wisky, at the big house, etc. The season is long and grueling in the big ten, big twelve, SEC, and Pac twelve. That is something that would certainly change your perception of Boise and i'd imagine they would have competed but had two or three big ten losses.

    Eta sorry I didn't mean to quote you

    This post was edited by AllDay28 on 1/2/2012 at 5:56 PM

    AllDay28

  • AllDay28 said...

    Possibly. The big thing people don't take into account when talking about tcu or Boise is that they generally play one or two big games a year with months to prepare. Playing the first and last game of the season against legitimate teams and playing no he in the middle is prime to get some upsets. If they had to get hit week in and week out with big conference opponents they would have a much tougher time. Especially having to play games at the shoe, at wisky, at the big house, etc. The season is long and grueling in the big ten, big twelve, SEC, and Pac twelve. That is something that would certainly change your perception of Boise and i'd imagine they would have competed but had two or three big ten losses.

    Normally I would agree, bt the BIG is so weak this year I think they have as much of a chance as anyone in the BIG to win it. They played about as tough as a schedule as Michigan did. And they are a better team than Michigan.

    JMO

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  • Guys, the B1G has sucked for a decade. It typically has been us, and oneother good team, then a bunch of mediocre teams who would finish near the bottom of the SEC. I tried making that point in another thread to explain why Tressel had looked so good for the last decade, but the Tresselytes screamed bloody murder. Even they can't deny how bad the B1G looks today. BSU would roll this conference, and Florida would've finished in the top 3 this year.

    This post was edited by godhatesusall on 1/2/2012 at 8:45 PM

    godhatesusall

  • At this point Big 10 is caught in a vicious cycle in regards to bowl games.

    Every year the Big 10 goes on the road to play 2 BCS games (TCU and Arkansas, Oregon and Virginia Tech), 3 games v. SEC opponents (Alabama, Florida, and Mississippi State, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina), 2 games v. Big 12 opponents (Missouri, and Texas Tech, Texas A&M and Oklahoma).

    In most cases opponent is higher ranked, record is even or favors opponent, game is played in opponents home state or a neighboring state of opponent.

    Big 10 will continue to struggle with these matchups as the conference goes 3-5, 3-7 / 4-6 on an annual basis. Because Big 10 will never be one of the top 1-2 conferences in bowl games it will never get any recognition even when it does well (2009).

    The Big 10 as a conference tries to play the best bowl opponents possible, but is lambasted when it struggles. On the other hand Pac 12 is praised for going 5-0 and beating noone (occurred a few years back).

    I think at this point bowl games carry too much weight over non conference regular season games, conference games, etc...

    BuckeyeMark

  • BuckeyeMark said...

    At this point Big 10 is caught in a vicious cycle in regards to bowl games.

    Every year the Big 10 goes on the road to play 2 BCS games (TCU and Arkansas, Oregon and Virginia Tech), 3 games v. SEC opponents (Alabama, Florida, and Mississippi State, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina), 2 games v. Big 12 opponents (Missouri, and Texas Tech, Texas A&M and Oklahoma).

    In most cases opponent is higher ranked, record is even or favors opponent, game is played in opponents home state or a neighboring state of opponent.

    Big 10 will continue to struggle with these matchups as the conference goes 3-5, 3-7 / 4-6 on an annual basis. Because Big 10 will never be one of the top 1-2 conferences in bowl games it will never get any recognition even when it does well (2009).

    The Big 10 as a conference tries to play the best bowl opponents possible, but is lambasted when it struggles. On the other hand Pac 12 is praised for going 5-0 and beating noone (occurred a few years back).

    I think at this point bowl games carry too much weight over non conference regular season games, conference games, etc...

    This year it is deserved. Even in the regular season, what was the best nonconferance win by the Big 10. Michigan's win over ND????

    Look at the Big Ten's bowl record over the last decade. It may be bad bowl matchups against better teams, but at some point you have to win those games to be considered a relevant conferance.

    Right now the big ten is relevant in terms of money and TV. The BTN is a money maker and the big ten teams draw TV ratings, but the Big ten does not win games against the elite. This will continue.

    tornado_zadar

  • NEOhio77 said...

    You are dreaming. BSU would be beat up after playing OSU, PSU, MSU, NE, etc.

    Boise would Sandusky Penn State. Did you not see Houston yesterday? Cmon Man

    jvohio441061

  • Ohioboy33 said...

    I dont doubt it either but Boise wont be shit without kellen moore next year. They should have been given their time to shine this year.

    Not so fast my friend! Have a number of friends in Boise with most being Alums of BSU. Their cupboard is far from bare at QB and will have an interesting spring QB competition. 4 guys vying to be the starter. Their main backup this year was Joe Southwick, 6'1" 190, Jr, a California kid. Most believe he has "happy feet", instead of working thru his progressions he takes off to soon. Next is Jim Laughrea, 6'2" 192, So, also a California kid. Somewhat of an unknown. However Coach Pete (whos been at BSU nearly 10 yrs) said he has the strongest arm of any QB he has ever had there. Next are most fan favs. Grant Hedrick, 6'0" 188, RS So, a coachs son (like Moore) from Oregon who broke all sorts of state records. Much quicker than Moore therefore the option would be much more in play with him under center. Last but not least is Nick Patti, 5'11" 185, Fr, out of Dr. Phillips HS in Orlando Fl.. While their played in the Premeire league, and won several Elite 11 QB comps. If he had been taller would have received big time luv from most elite SEC teams. (watch his vid on youtube and tell me he woulndt fit their program) anyway, his lack of time in the system will not help him but he is to enroll in Jan. They feel his ceiling is limitless. So there you have it. Straight from my friend in Boise who by the way is an Alum. Go Bucks!

    BuckeyeMike4

  • BuckeyeMark said...

    At this point Big 10 is caught in a vicious cycle in regards to bowl games.

    Every year the Big 10 goes on the road to play 2 BCS games (TCU and Arkansas, Oregon and Virginia Tech), 3 games v. SEC opponents (Alabama, Florida, and Mississippi State, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina), 2 games v. Big 12 opponents (Missouri, and Texas Tech, Texas A&M and Oklahoma).

    In most cases opponent is higher ranked, record is even or favors opponent, game is played in opponents home state or a neighboring state of opponent.

    Big 10 will continue to struggle with these matchups as the conference goes 3-5, 3-7 / 4-6 on an annual basis. Because Big 10 will never be one of the top 1-2 conferences in bowl games it will never get any recognition even when it does well (2009).

    The Big 10 as a conference tries to play the best bowl opponents possible, but is lambasted when it struggles. On the other hand Pac 12 is praised for going 5-0 and beating noone (occurred a few years back).

    I think at this point bowl games carry too much weight over non conference regular season games, conference games, etc...

    We apparently see things differently. To be the best, you must beat the best. To claim that the Big Ten is mismatched in bowl games accedes what non-B1G fans and experts have been saying all along. Our conference has been consistently mediocre over the last 5 years. One year does not change that. At some point, the B1G must quit relying on its tradition and take steps to make put the conference back at the top in football. As much revenue as the conference generates, most of the schools go cheap when it comes time to pay coaches or upgrade facilities. At this rate, television revenues will likely decrease, then the B1G will really struggle.

    TimBucktoo