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Chuman said...
I was thinking about the schedule and how many of us have the Bucks going 10-2, 11-1, and even some say 12-0. Then we discuse MSU, UM, Wisky and maybe even PSU being challenges for us. (Maybe). But after listening to other outside commentators, and doing some research, I have come to the conclusion that Cal might give us a huge challenge.
Explain: Even with 3 loses to Oregon the last 3 years, Cal is the only team that actually played Oregon tough and held them under their offensive average. Yes they did lose to Auburn and USC, but watching those Cal games, I was very impressed with their defense. Now OSU seems to have the spread open speed offense that Oregon has, so if Cal has a good enough defense to hold Oregon under their mark, can they do it against OSU. Let's also note that this is the 1st year of this offense, so it's not going to be smooth as it should be, and it will also be earlier in the season, so that might be a factor.
Let me say that we should and will beat Cal, but this might be a surprise to some on here. Just my thoughts.
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Downtown said...
Just go back and look at Cal's last couple recruiting classes compared to ours. Talent and rankings are not that far behind. I think in 09 or 2010 they might have had a better rated class than us. Cal has the talent to beat us if we let them. Dont get me wrong, I really cant see this happening. You gotta also remember that Cal is our first test, so the players should be pretty pumped up and ready to roll.
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jpfbuck said...
While it is certainly not impossible for Cal to beat us, (heck Toledo had on the ropes last year), the odds are in our favor.
1) we will have 2 games under our belt to work out any kinks and issues 2) we are at home 3) Cal was 7-6 last year 4) although in general their Offense has some returners, they were held to 16 points or less 4 times, as bad as we were, we did this only twice 5) they won only 2 games away from home last year, 47-38 vs an ASU team that fired their HC and 36-33 against a Colorado team that we beat by 20 that they blew a 10 point lead to with less than 5 mins to go in the 3rd quarter and needed OT to win, (Colorado put up 582 yards Total O that day, this was 2 weeks before we held them to 314 and only 17 points in our win) 6) we were 5-2 at home with last years lousy team, they were 2-7 away from home 7) taking the Presbyterian game out of their stats, they went 6-6, gave up 25.2 points per game we gave up only 21. 9) 4 of their 6 losses last year were by 10 points or more including losses of 17, and 28 on the road and 21 at home, while 6 of our 7 were by 7 points or less and our worst loss was only 18 on the road 10) they return only 11 total starters while we return 18. 11) they gave up over 30 points 7 times last year, we did it only 2 times 12) in their last game, a very mediocre Texas team held them to 7 yards rushing and less than 200 total. USC held them to 35 yards rushing.
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jpfbuck said...
While it is certainly not impossible for Cal to beat us, (heck Toledo had on the ropes last year), the odds are in our favor.
1) we will have 2 games under our belt to work out any kinks and issues 2) we are at home 3) Cal was 7-6 last year 4) although in general their Offense has some returners, they were held to 16 points or less 4 times, as bad as we were, we did this only twice 5) they won only 2 games away from home last year, 47-38 vs an ASU team that fired their HC and 36-33 against a Colorado team that we beat by 20 that they blew a 10 point lead to with less than 5 mins to go in the 3rd quarter and needed OT to win, (Colorado put up 582 yards Total O that day, this was 2 weeks before we held them to 314 and only 17 points in our win) 6) we were 5-2 at home with last years lousy team, they were 2-7 away from home 7) taking the Presbyterian game out of their stats, they went 6-6, gave up 25.2 points per game we gave up only 21. 9) 4 of their 6 losses last year were by 10 points or more including losses of 17, and 28 on the road and 21 at home, while 6 of our 7 were by 7 points or less and our worst loss was only 18 on the road 10) they return only 11 total starters while we return 18. 11) they gave up over 30 points 7 times last year, we did it only 2 times 12) in their last game, a very mediocre Texas team held them to 7 yards rushing and less than 200 total. USC held them to 35 yards rushing.
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Chuman said...
Good post jpf, but I was looking more in the line of Cal's defense against the spread offense. Most of those games they got blown out was against pro-style offenses. USC, Standford. My point was only to the fact that even though the score was much larger than it appeared last year vs Oregon, the last 2 games prior to that, they held them in check.
I just think some teams are more equip to handle different systems better. Ex: it's hard for teams to study up on triple option teams (Navy, GT), but teams that play them every year have a good true sense on how to handle it. (most of the time). Then I look at OSU few years back, recruiting faster thinner players to combat the read option UM (Rich Rod's) offense. You also had Illini, NW, and Purdue running a hurry up spread offense. Then we play Wisky- which is a down hill running power team, and they took it to us. Some teams play better against spread offense than others, I was just throwing it out there that Cal might be that 1 team that stops spread option offenses.
I do agree with most that we should beat them, and "should" man handle them coming to C-Bus, but if my predicitions are true- this could be a good early test for us.
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Cal game can be a big surprise for us!!!!!