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Do we even win 7 games next year???

  • Granted I was a little more optimistic a few weeks ago than what I am right now. Let's put it this way, we won't be winning any high scoring shoot outs with a rookie QB. Our defense is going to have to be our best offense and not for just a few games. I'm talking the entire season. We can win 10 games if we hold our opponents to 20 points or less. If the defense struggles and runs out of steam we will win 7 games.
    In addition to the silver bullets, I'd like to see a heavy dose of Braxton Miller, Stoneburner and Rod Smith.

  • tommyq said... (original post)

    TOSU has no QB's ready to play in the B10 yet,unless they have a supernatural yr running the ball,7 wins seems about right...without TP the streak against scUM is in BIG Jeopardy...Nebraska game could be really ugly!The Front Running OSU "fans" will be calling for Fickells head and yearning for Quitter Urban Cryer to come in and save the day....Sorry bout everybpdys luck but Urbans dirtier than Tress,he just blended in well in the SEC

    Wow! So how many years should I expect to be miserable on Sat.? You've taken care of Luke's first and only year, and the new contract of Meyer. My game day chore list sure has taken a beating since JT took over. I can get caught up by 2016 maybe. Will the Bucks program be relevent by then?

  • I don't see how this team can't win 9-10 games. They are still BY FAR the most talented team in the Big 10. they should be 4-1 when the tat 4 get back.

    After that, who exactly in the Big 10 is scary?

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  • Diegobuck said... (original post)

    WRONG we win at least 8 but my bet is on 9 or 10.

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    DB----When I am down after the Bucks take another media beating, I search for your posts, 'cause I know they will be positive. Keep 'em coming.

    The Buckeyes win at least 9 games this season!!

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  • ItalianBuck said... (original post)

    The Buckeyes win at least 9 games this season!!

    Nine would be a good number to bet on, but remember the freakish 2002 season. Purdue, Ill., and Miami all could easily have been losses, but the football spirits wouldn't allow it. Can you give us a repeat MAYBE for 2011?

  • SLVRBULLIT82 said... (original post)

    I don't think that Fickell will be any different than Tress. There needs to be a change from the top down and having Bollman, Heacock, Doc and the QB coach is not a change. Just on talent alone we should win 8-9 games this year.

    Why should he be? It has been proven time and time again that you can win in college football by running the ball on offense, controlling time of possession, not turning the ball over, being strong on defense, taking the ball away from opponent, being strong on special teams.

    The only super freak athletes to win a National Championship in the BCS era are Vince Young and Cam Newton. Others like Josh Heupel, Craig Krenzel, Matt Mauk, Matt Flynn, Greg McElroy won one as game managers.

    OSU is fairly strong on OLine particularly when Fragel at TE and Boren at FB are factored in.

    OSU should be able to run the football. Passes will go to TEs and TBs as much as to WR. Defense should be very good. Special teams should be solid.

  • I, for one, thawk127, am not going to worry about the 2011 season and wins and losses.....Yea it would be great to be 12-0, but what if we are 7-5? Some time in life there comes a time when the pedal comes off the gas and a person is forced to re-group. 2011 will give us a chance to see who "we really have", and those who are true Buckeyes for the future......I hate to lose as much as anyone, and love to see my Buckeyes on top....we have been hit with a bevy of negatives for this coming season.....Fickell may surprise many with his coaching abilities, Our Defense may be stellar, and the offense under BM be one to behold! Who knows......But to me this might have to be a kick-back year as we "re-organize things". This happens in life, in business and in sports. Winning 6 B10 championships in a row and beating Michigan 8 or 9 of 10 times is very un-usual. We did that. Maybe the 2012 season after this year will be more special.....it remains to be seen......

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  • thawk127 said... (original post)

    The problem is Jim Tressel was in charge of the offence. With the rare year that we were good, most years we were painful to watch because most of the top players saw how bad of an offensive mind Tressel was and stayed away. We have an average receiver in Posey and a bunch of could be's and maybes' backing him up at WR. We should all pray that one of our OL's don't go down because we have zero depth because of our joke OC/OL coach Jim Bollman. We beat out Prairie View A&M for a 2 star in Guiton and while Bauserman might be slightly below average on a good day, he'll have to run foir his life on most passing downs becuase of our swiss cheese OL. Miller is going to be good, but he simply isn't ready. Our only chance of being competitive against good teams is if our great group of RB's carries the team.

    What Buck fan would not want the next 10 yrs. to be as "painful to watch" as the last ten? That kind of success, Nat. Ch., BCS Bowls, Mich. wins, B10 championships and overall record may never be duplicated by an OSU team in any ten year period. What else is there? Win every game, every year won't happen anywhere. Michigan wanted a more exciting offense and got Rich Rod and an embarrassing outcome. Bottom line, 3-0 wins count the same as 30-0.

  • THEnutbuster said... (original post)

    I was just about to post this same question. Taking off the homer glasses, looking at the talent at given positions I could reasonably see 9 wins. It depends on how aggressive Luke gets and who steers the ship at QB. If Bauserman is in, brace yourself for problems. If Miller is in, having some EXCELLENT guys to carry the ball and his speed and elusiveness it could be good.

    Remember these players have a chip on their shoulders

    I hope you are right and they do play with a chip on their shoulder because with 7 starters gone on defense and possibly your best o-lineman out for 5 games (Jim Bollman still coaches the o-line also) and your best talent at QB is a true freshman they will need every edge they can get.

  • thawk127 said... (original post)

    The problem is Jim Tressel was in charge of the offence. With the rare year that we were good, most years we were painful to watch because most of the top players saw how bad of an offensive mind Tressel was and stayed away. We have an average receiver in Posey and a bunch of could be's and maybes' backing him up at WR. We should all pray that one of our OL's don't go down because we have zero depth because of our joke OC/OL coach Jim Bollman. We beat out Prairie View A&M for a 2 star in Guiton and while Bauserman might be slightly below average on a good day, he'll have to run foir his life on most passing downs becuase of our swiss cheese OL. Miller is going to be good, but he simply isn't ready. Our only chance of being competitive against good teams is if our great group of RB's carries the team.

    LOL. I got to admit, you nailed it on the OL line coach for sure. I agree JT was an offensive midget but but we just had better talent then 99.9% of the teams.

  • ItalianBuck said... (original post)

    What the fuck planet are you from, this is college football not the pros. Miller time is starting, He's not getting thrown in the fire like TP, at least he has some time to practice. He knows he's got the chance to be the starter and he's going to take full advantage of it!! Now lets have a toast to the new Ohio State Buckeyes, I'm holding up my beer, GO BUCKEYES!!!!!!

    Ok, good to hear from you IB, how's the neck holding up? Secondly, you swore and that's a no no on this site anymore, but what the hell, I digress, why can't our freshmen be great, I mean , you read of freshmen at other colleges coming in and doing great, why can't Miller, and Deven Smith and Spencer, come in and be spectacular? I thoroughly expect to say as the season progresses about the freshmen, " they're real and they're spectacular"! My prediction, the best we can hope for is 14 - 0 and another NC, or the worst we could be is 11 - 2. The 2 away games, Neb. and Miami are obviously gonna be the toughest, but we could win both.

  • Bigjimmie said... (original post)

    I, for one, thawk127, am not going to worry about the 2011 season and wins and losses.....Yea it would be great to be 12-0, but what if we are 7-5? Some time in life there comes a time when the pedal comes off the gas and a person is forced to re-group. 2011 will give us a chance to see who "we really have", and those who are true Buckeyes for the future......I hate to lose as much as anyone, and love to see my Buckeyes on top....we have been hit with a bevy of negatives for this coming season.....Fickell may surprise many with his coaching abilities, Our Defense may be stellar, and the offense under BM be one to behold! Who knows......But to me this might have to be a kick-back year as we "re-organize things". This happens in life, in business and in sports. Winning 6 B10 championships in a row and beating Michigan 8 or 9 of 10 times is very un-usual. We did that. Maybe the 2012 season after this year will be more special.....it remains to be seen......

    A very grounded and well thought out perspective. I agree 100%

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  • Bigjimmie said... (original post)

    I, for one, thawk127, am not going to worry about the 2011 season and wins and losses.....Yea it would be great to be 12-0, but what if we are 7-5? Some time in life there comes a time when the pedal comes off the gas and a person is forced to re-group. 2011 will give us a chance to see who "we really have", and those who are true Buckeyes for the future......I hate to lose as much as anyone, and love to see my Buckeyes on top....we have been hit with a bevy of negatives for this coming season.....Fickell may surprise many with his coaching abilities, Our Defense may be stellar, and the offense under BM be one to behold! Who knows......But to me this might have to be a kick-back year as we "re-organize things". This happens in life, in business and in sports. Winning 6 B10 championships in a row and beating Michigan 8 or 9 of 10 times is very un-usual. We did that. Maybe the 2012 season after this year will be more special.....it remains to be seen......

    I am with you Jimmie. I say this is a chalk up year. Doesn't matter win or lose, it's about what can we see in the future.

    Every year under JT, it was how awesome or Defense would be and who is going to step up as a freshman or soph. Then is our offense going to play their part and contend with the defense- if so we will be unstoppable.

    Now it's like: What the F&ck offensive scheme are we going to play. Will Luke still be here or what new coach is it going to be. There are many new questions on sooooo many different levels. let this year play out and lets hope for a bright future with this program.

  • If talent alone won games, I'd say 8 wins would be no problem; but talent isn't the only issue. I watched 4 teams with tons of talent go 8-5 (UF), 8-5 (USC), 5-7 (UT), and 6-7 (UGA) last year, for a variety of reasons... most of which tOSU will be facing this season, like coaching issues and suspensions.

    Ohio State's recent great seasons came with a full compliment of players and an an extremely experienced, tested head coach; neither of which will be on the sidelines this year. If Fickell wins 7 or 8 games in this current environment/atmosphere hanging over the program, he should probably get the interim label removed from his job title.

  • G8R8U2 said... (original post)

    If talent alone won games, I'd say 8 wins would be no problem; but talent isn't the only issue. I watched 4 teams with tons of talent go 8-5 (UF), 8-5 (USC), 5-7 (UT), and 6-7 (UGA) last year, for a variety of reasons... most of which tOSU will be facing this season, like coaching issues and suspensions.

    This is exactly why I asked the question. OSU has talented players year in and year out. However, there's so much more than talent that goes into a successful season. Most here are only considering the roster OSU boasts vs other B1G opponents, not considering the distractions, NCAA sanctions, the media, loss of a head coach, and the most talented player (Pryor) on the field will pose. Sorry, I just can't see Bauserman or a frosh QB in BMiller getting through the season unscathed. Not to mention a VERY GREEN receiving core. IMO, the most important component to this seasons success or failure will be the leadership Fickell demonstrates. Overall, this is a young team. One or two losses can have an adverse affect on the teams psyche and begin a downward spiral. I'd love to see this team go 12-0 but I think I'm approaching this season with a rebuilding approach. At least until the head coach is certified and the QB gets more experience.

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  • G8R8U2 said... (original post)

    If talent alone won games, I'd say 8 wins would be no problem; but talent isn't the only issue. I watched 4 teams with tons of talent go 8-5 (UF), 8-5 (USC), 5-7 (UT), and 6-7 (UGA) last year, for a variety of reasons... most of which tOSU will be facing this season, like coaching issues and suspensions.

    Ohio State's recent great seasons came with a full compliment of players and an an extremely experienced, tested head coach; neither of which will be on the sidelines this year. If Fickell wins 7 or 8 games in this current environment/atmosphere hanging over the program, he should probably get the interim label removed from his job title.

    Agree with most of your statement except for the Fickell part. He's just a bridge at this point.

  • SLVRBULLIT82 said... (original post)

    I don't think that Fickell will be any different than Tress. There needs to be a change from the top down and having Bollman, Heacock, Doc and the QB coach is not a change. Just on talent alone we should win 8-9 games this year.

    Completely agree about the coaches. Who on earth recruits the O-line?

  • thawk127 said... (original post)

    I love the optimism here, but when TP took over as a Frosh he had some good playmakers around him (Beanie and a good receiving core). Our RB group is solid but the receivers are unproven at best. Like one poster said, stack the box and we may be in trouble with another frosh QB under center in BMiller. Not saying he wont be great someday, but to take on the different defensive schemes and master the playbook will be a monstrous task. I'd assume Fickell keeps it simple at first. This is of course if BMiller gets the nod. I'm still not completely sold on it, yet. Can't seem to get the thought of Bauserman under center. If at the least due to his familiarity with the system. Defense will be this seasons anchor. I see the season as such.

    Akron: W Toledo: W @ Miami: L Colorado: W Michigan ST: L Nebraska: L @ Illinois: push (they always play OSU tough away) Wisconsin: push (self explained) Indiana: W @ Purdue: W Penn St: W @ MIchigan: push (rivalry games can go either way - especially at Michigan)

    Good analysis...somewhere between 6-6 and 9-3 seems plausible. If LF can coach his way to 9 wins and get some good recruits in the midst of this s- - -storm, I'd be pretty happy.

    A post season ban appears to be imminent, which will hurt in many ways, but I'd be ectastic to get to Orlando or Tampa and knock off an SEC opponent.