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Remember the 1995 team? Eddie George, Orlando Pace, Terry Glenn, Shawn Springs, (How did Cooper never win a NC or rarely beat Mich with the talent he brought in).....
Was just reading an article on another site about the Wisconsin game that year, but what caught my eye was the OOC schedule that year....
Opened with Kickoff Classic against Boston College, followed with Washington, Pitt and Notre Dame....
That's the kind of teams we need to schedule to have the edge if we're ever on the hump of getting in the 4 team playoff...Just schedule BCS conferences, doesn't have to be full of Bama's, USC's or Texas' but still get away from MAC and FCS for sure....
In '95 we had a jam-packed schedule of BCS teams.
But the reason we didn't win a NC under Cooper is in large part because it was the pre BCS era where we were tied exclusively into the Rose Bowl. We never got the opportunity to play in the Sugar, Orange, Rose or Fiesta Bowls if we were ranked in the top 2 or 3. Not until the year before the BCS against FSU in the Sugar and then the following year vs Texas A&M.
I've always said that if things could've been reversed: Tressel the coach during the late '80s-'90s, we would've won our fair share of battles against TSUN and played in our share of Rose Bowls as well. And had Cooper been here during the Tressel years, we would've landed a lot more of those superstar recruits who shunned us at the 11th hour and we would've won more of our share of big-stage games say in the late '00s. It's also possible we would've won perhaps two national titles as well considering everything for us wouldn't have been contingent on the Michigan game the way it was during the Alliance Bowl years.
Gene Smith has basically scheduled rematches with all the schools we've played well against in recent years: Texas, Oregon, etc. However, he's refused to schedule any $EC schools and for what reason, I don't know. Don't hand me this BS excuse about it's been difficult coming to any terms of agreement about scheduling such matchups around their conference schedules which begin earlier in the season now. Smith should relish the opportunity for us to get back at the likes of Stanford, FSU, U$C, South Carolina, Alabama, Tennessee, Auburn and Florida--all of whom have winning records against us.
I don't really have a problem with our schedule. Back in the days and during Tressel's era, even looking to the future, we have had weak opponents, but there has been years when we had very good opponents. I am like most who want to play top competition, but you also have to have some lower tier games. I don't mind the MAC schools. 1 - the MAC is getting a hell of lot better in football. 2 - It keeps the money in Ohio. 3 - I think playing a top tier MAC school is probably harder to play then some of these crappy BCS conference teams.
Biggest lame excuses ... 1. Need to have 10 home games a year ... 2. Keep the money in ohio ..wtf does that mean
I'm not saying load it up with all top 10 teams...you can still have "lower tier" teams, but from a BCS conference....The Washington State's of the world count.....
Need to keep the money in ohio
Our biggest problem seems to be this need to schedule OOC games 6-8-10 years out while there are still ACC and SEC teams that haven't completed their 2013 schedules yet. Why do we need so much lead time? When we scheduled Cal, they were an up and coming team; now, Jeff Tedford's on the hot seat and may be on his way out. Same with Washington in 2007. Who knew Ty Willingham would have driven that program into the ground by the time we played them?
Gene Smith has said he wants to schedule one game a year against a Top 25 caliber team and then a couple Top 40 teams. And I think he's putting his money where his mouth is by scheduling games against Virginia Tech (2014-15), Oklahoma (2016-17), UNC (2017-18), UC (2014, 2018), TCU (2018-19), Oregon (2020-21), and Texas (2022-23). Ands there's some good overlap--Va Tech and UC both in 2014, Oklahoma and UNC both in 2017, UC, TCU and UNC in 2018, Oregon and BC both in 2020-21. Based on how they're playing this year, our OOC in 2018 projects to be arguably the most competitive in the country but who knows what they'll be like in six years? They could all be worthless or they could all be in the Top 10.
And what's wrong with that?
what about the less we travel the less classes the "student" athletes miss. lame....
LOL. Just go look at the ooc schedule this week in the SEC:Alabama a&m, western Carolina, Samford, jacksonville state, wofford.
Makes our ooc look like we are playing the nfc east.
Shhhhh...don't tell sofla...
Not to mention when SEC teams back out of the deal (tenn, vandy). When tressel implemented the 'play ohio teams quasi policy', it was when an extra game was added to everyone's schedule (from 11 to 12). It shouldn't have had an effect on SOS. What did have an effect is what Iowa points out. When they scheduled Colorado, they had no idea how bad that team would be. Same with Cal and Washington. I don't think the bucks avoid playing anyone... If the conference and future opponents don't hold up their end of the bargain by being competitive, what are you supposed to do?
Our ooc is a joke ... Keep.the money in ohio scam ... 12 home games a year scam
It meant under the system they were able to play at home against weaker competition. If rather keep the money in my State than send it elsewhere too. 800k to KSU is a lot of money.
YSU helped build additions from their two games at OSU.
The new system will discourage playing cream puffs. Hence, they are already adapting.
"man we got some fuckin weirdos on this site." - Davebucknut 9/5/13 post of the year
Next years schedule is laugahable... Sorry guys, but our schedule is a joke next season - better hope we go undefeated and nobody else does or we may not get a shot at the NC game.
Please spare me the SEC OOC schedule BS - I do not care what the SEC does - this is the B1G and we must get our credability back by beating worthy opponents consistently year after year.
BTW, the SEC has won how many NC trophies? They don't need to schedule difficult opponents - their conference is strong enough.
Shhhhh dont tell.the truth .. The hommers hate the truth ... They will just say if only.vandy.didnt drop us
lololololol when vandy dropped us for next year geno could have tried to schedule byu, west virginia, arizona, wake forest, ga tech etc.
we got san diego f'n state.....
The schedule was made years in advance uder the old system.
They are already revamping what they can for future years. And yes, until the SEC loses in bowl games for a period of years (like the BIG), all they need to do is play their conference schedules.
The truth changed with the new system dude. How about recognizing that?
OSU has always been a trendsetter in scheduling; they took on tough OCC opponents when it WAS NOT necessary.
God forbid your flip flop driving glove wearing ass ever give the school any credit....
there's a challenge for you Sofla, give OSU an actual compliment for once...
This post was edited by chuck0609 17 months ago
No...why? Won't generate any responses to those who elect to reply. Easier to troll and rip the school and it's fans.
Get ready...his formulaic response is on it's way.
Ive picked.them to win every week in the.score predictor.thread ??
Not my point.
I'm often critical when perhaps others are not, but this subject is ridiculous if you have any knowledge at all about the school's scheduling history and what they are doing moving forward in relation to the college football bowl dynamic.
OSU has ALWAYS been ahead of the curve.
Not only was Cooper unable to beat Michigan...
Cooper was downright awful in bowl games.....
To the tune of 3-8! That's horrid. So whoever said this:
" And had Cooper been here during the Tressel years, we would've landed a lot more of those superstar (you mean recruits like Beanie Wells, Maurice Clarett, Ted Ginn, Terrelle Pryor, Malcom Jenkins, Chris Gamble, Braxton Miller, etc.)..... recruits who shunned us at the 11th hour and we would've won more of our share of big-stage games say in the late '00s. It's also possible we would've won perhaps two national titles as well considering everything for us wouldn't have been contingent on the Michigan game the way it was during the Alliance Bowl years."
Sorry....but you're sadly mistaken.
We lose to Michigan in 02' we don't go to Arizona. We lose to them in 06' we don't go to Arizona. We lose to them in 07' we don't go to New Orleans. So going to the NC game was and probably will always be very contingent on beating Michigan.
You want to win NC's.....you've got to be able to beat your arch rival.....and you've got to be able to at the very least go .500 in your bowl match-ups regardless of them being the Rose Bowl or the Holiday Bowl.
Where Cooper failed was preparing his teams for the truly big time games.....I watched all the Cooper teams including those where he would constantly flip QB's and I was just as frustrated watching this man and his team on the sidelines as I was Tressels play calling.
But a 6-4 overall mark in bowl games with a 5-4 mark in BCS games including 1-3 in NC games is something Cooper would never ever come close to....and the reason being is that he always attempted to downplay the importance of The Game.
This post was edited by Bearbuck 17 months ago
There is no way you can convince me that the SEC is that invincible this year....
4 of those 6 top 10 BCS ranked teams is a crock! South Carolina, Texas A & M, LSU are for sure not worthy of being in the top 10!
You know how you get a strong conference....you get a bunch of voters to buy in and believe your invincible and you end up with 8-10 teams ranked in the top 25 at the start of each season.....schedule weak OOC opponents at appropriate times of the season....and let your SOS go through the roof by playing nothing but ranked teams in your own conference. Guarantee you'll get a team into the title game every year....certainly doesn't hurt.
Hey....I'm not going to deny the fact that they've won the NC game when it's on the line cause they have.....
So until someone knocks them off the hill there's not much you can say....but any fans natural reaction is going to be the same. Always has been that way and always will be that way....
SEC is on a hot streak and I'm sure they'll enjoy it while it lasts. Nothing lasts forever....which is great news for college football fans outside of the SEC.
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