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Munger visits FSU in stealth mode, being very secretive.
I think a lot on this depends on what the policy was that was communicated to Munger before he committed to Ohio State. If Meyer had told Munger "no visits" and he did it behind his back, then there's a problem and Meyer will have to make an example in some way to not show he's weak and has a doublestandard (like Hoke did previously with Dawson). If Meyer has said -- I don't care if you visit as long as you tell me, then there will still be an issue that needs resolved. If the policy is "do whatever you want" then there is no issue.
Bottom line it depends on what specifically was communicated as the policy. I for one will never understand why a kid commits if you're still taking visits because by continuing to take visits that action alone is clearly stating that you're still at least considering somewhere else no matter how much you refute it to the public when asked about it.
I would call Eddie Vanderdoes and tell Munger to enjoy his visit.
ehhh is it really mungers job to call urban and be like, "hey going to visit florida state." as long as he didnt lie about it when urban asked him after the fact he was truthful about going down there but still wants to be a buckeye than it's a non issue in my opinion.
Could Urban have told Munger to possibly look around? Maybe we are looking good on closing this class and Dline isnt necessarily a position of need. Maybe if Munger leaves we can sign Wilson, Skipper, and possibly Bell? This ISNT the case IMO, but just a possibilty.
I dont think Munger goes anywhere and is a buckeye through and through. This could have been just a vacay to florida admist this harsh Ohio winter? Like i said, If im Urban i do not do anything, because Monger will be in this class. If he leaves, its not going to hurt us. Hill is just a highly rated, and do not forget about price.
The only way this could potentially hurt us is that ive read Munger is cousins with Marcelous Jones and if Munger leaves, Jones may want to as well. Jones does have an offer from FSU
Agree. No reason to lose it over this. If someone wants to visit who are we to say "you can't," with the caveat of, unless it was articulated to him otherwise. About visits, I understand for some, it's a great opportunity to get out of state and see other parts of the U.S. But, would seem that I would not verbal until I've done so, because what if you go to another area and you fall in love with it there. Now you put yourself in an awkward position. Myself, I will never forget the first time leaving Ohio and going to Cali. I was like, wow! I really like this much more than where I was raised. However, there is nothing that would pull me away from a Buckeye offer. Nothing. I love it here in Hawaii, but if I was young and offered by tOSU, I would swim the ocean to play here!
Interesting article on Scout about Northwestern's policy. Here's an excerpt:
A verbal commitment to Northwestern is an oath to excellence in the classroom, a promise to avoid trouble, and a devotion to the university. Most of all, it's a pledge more solid than anything else in college football...at Northwestern...a commitment is a sworn promise, with no waffling or backing out allowed. Fitzgerald and his coaching staff ensure each of their recruits honor their pledge to the program like an engagement. The loyalty is mutual between Northwestern and its future Wildcats. The scholarship offer will stand if all standards are upheld. A recruit must steer clear of trouble, maintain academics, and represent Northwestern in the most positive form. Anything short of that will end the relationship. “You’re not going to cheat on them,” said Northwestern offensive line recruit Brad North. “You’re not going to go other places and see other things. You’re going to stay loyal to that commitment.” In order to be a verbal pledge with the Northwestern program, one must fend off interest from other schools. A commitment requires a return in the loyalty that’s offered with the scholarship. That means a Northwestern recruit cannot visit any other campus or meet with rival coaches. After a commitment to Northwestern is made, it’s advised that the recruit notifies each of his suitors that a final decision has been made. When talented tackle Sam Coverdale picked the Wildcats, he first called more than 20 coaches before making the news official—a process which lasted more than five hours.
The article says Fitzgerald's only had two verbals fail to send in their LOIs on NSD, one because he didn't qualify academically and one in this year's class because he wanted to visit Cal. Fitz told him that if he went, his scholarship would be revoked; he did and it was. And that's the way it should be--a commitment is a 2-way street as both sides make a promise and each should expect the other to hold up his end. There could be extenuating circumstances and I'll defer to Urban and whatever his policy is on this but my personal feeling is that if Munger's still looking around, let him keep looking...but without an OSU scholarship in his back pocket.
There's a certain standard which must when a recruit gives a verbal commitment to Northwestern. A sustained level of academic success must be met, plus the kid must steer clear of trouble, and needs to stay true to the Northwestern football program. The reward for meeting the high standard is great, and remains something head coach Pat Fitzgerald strictly enforces.
It does make sense that if Munger wanted to look around UM Could encourage him because the D-line is much less a position of need as l-backer, receiver and o-line. If Munger stays then it is status quo. If he were to leave then there is another spot open for a position of greater need.
I agree with you completely on that point.
I would check this board everyday to see what I should be doing
This post was edited by talbert39 15 months ago
If I were Urban what would I do?
I'd say, "Donovon...enjoy your visit and let me know how it goes." This being my response had Munger approached me.
Now after the stealth mode visit: "Donovon....heard you took a trip to the Sunshine state. How did it go?"
No need to pressure.....if a kid wants to be here he wants to be here and if he doesn't then there's a line of young men that do.
This will not faze Meyer.
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i know i do!
Urban shouldn't do anything. I mean, he doesn't have a Hoke policy, right? So that means I assume the staff doesn't care if Munger visits or not.
I have defended Hoke's policy, but I think Urban's is reasonable too. He is comfortable in his skin, and is fine with guys visiting after committing. I think all of us fans get worked up sometimes over nothing.
Exactly. Recruiting is a mess anymore. He could have been told to look around. Or he could have looked at who he is competing against and decided on his own to look around. The recruiting process, as well as flipping is not only the coach anymore, the kids are using their "pull" too.
If I was Urban I'd hire a mob enforcer to teach Munger a lesson.
I will respect Meyer with whatever he choses as his policy but last year it was once you committed there were no other visits. We'll see how this works out.
why is this a big deal ? think of all the other kids that visit us after they verbal somewhere else. i dont see a problem. free trip to florida. i would do it to. ha
I expect that Meyer and Munger know what the score is. Besides, taking a visit to Florida in January sounds good to me. If he is a sure Buckeye then he just burns FSU's recruiting time, if not then decommit. Plenty of fish in Meyer's sea. Some worry that he may convince Marcelys Jones (2014) to flip later if he does go to FSU. Again, anybody who doesn't want to be a Buckeye....see ya' and good luck. Meyer is creating a juggernaut. You better be all-in or go elsewhere, because if you're not all-in then you probably won't make it onto the field anyway.
Munger is the perfect candidate to be made a example of... we have young talent on the dline, and that spot could easily be used on one of the wr's we're closing on...as well as showing future commits what happens for being disloyal! If this was jalin, this theory wouldn't fly at all!! In the future, if a star wants to take a visit down south for the weather, you can justify not pulling his offer by saying "munger took a visit without notifying us first"
This post was edited by sdot40 15 months ago
These are verbal commitments. They have not signed anything yet.
Things change. Including the way you feel about where you want to go to school and who you want to play football for. It does no good to get bent out of shape about something you don't have control over.
You can't get a signature from everyone you want to have play for you. Where opportunity ends for one it begins for another.
I'd prefer not to have drama queens. I'd prefer not to sign recruits who somehow feel you need to carry their 'baby' nuts for them so to speak! Get real.... this is tOSU.....you have to have a hell of a lot more than just talent to play here.
If you have talent but don't have the heart and soul to go with it......then go somewhere else.
Exactly! You beat me to it, where else can you get info from insiders and coaching tips from experienced qualified people!
FSU sight shows a visit date of 1/18 and there is a premium thread about Munger. Did he actually go on the visit? I haven't seen anything showing Munger did a visit or talking about how he liked it.
Well said Iowa.....it's the kids future and he has every right to make sure he is making the right choice on where he wants to go to school for the next 5 years. However, if you want to look elsewhere you've lost the priviledge of the guaranteed shollie from OSU.
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