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How is it possible to be such a great recruiter yet be a complete moron of a coach at the same time?
Yeah, at times that guy just makes me go "WTF"! But, they out played Bama all but the last 80 seconds of the game! That missed field goal was HUGE!! There kicked sucks!
I lurk around on the Blue Board and their fans sometimes ask the same question.
Yeah but this moron of a coach made our then supposed fastidious and smart coach look like a clueless dimwit five years ago in the BCS title game.
Do you know what the present is ? Is TOm coughlin better than Bill bellichik ?
Too logical, too obvious, too simple, therefore unacceptable to this board...
Kidding, kind of haha.
I think lsu proved what happens when you go to a soft zone.
If Miles was going to Vegas and asked me if I wanted him to place a bet, I'd hesitate, then say, "Yeah. But bet it all on red."
unreal......he makes some bad choices and his clock management over the years has been suspect, at best......but, it usually works out for him, except yesterday.
you have to understand that just about every little boy who grows up down here dreams of playing for the Tigahs. If you grow up in Louisiana, ELSSHHUUU is their first choice. There is no rivals down here. Miles recruits well because of that first. He already has a leg up on any other school. There is also great talent down here. That added to the fact that the kids already want to go there only adds to his great recruiting skills (don't know if I would say skill though)
When we got matched up with LSU.....that game should have been ours for the taking.
Our guys as an entire team let that one get away....I don't blame that game on coaching one single bit.
Lots of stupid penalties at very crucial momentum building times in that game like the Austin Spitler personal foul for example that would have gotten us the ball back and a chance to regain some points and make it a one possession game.
Our defense in the 2nd half played lights out!
I will give you this Sugar.....I digress....the major coaching error that was evident was we abandoned our running game. I don't know what the thinking was there....but Boeckman turning the ball over like he did certainly wasn't on our coach.
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In all seriousness, this is everything as far as I'm concerned. People often confuse great recruiters (or in his case, perhaps taking advantage of a ripe recruiting situation) with a great coach. Texas is an excellent example of the fact that you can recruit great (top 5 class every year for practically ever) and still not coach a team into greatness.
Looks at what Urban's done with a 6-7 team. Urban to me, and Nick Saban, are a great example of what happens when you have someone who has the ability to be an elite recruiter + coach. Multiple Championships. I see Les more as someone who's a great recruiter and ridden it to a championship. Keep in mind that when Saban left LSU and Miles took over, they'd just won their first Championship in over 40 years. Saban made them relevant, Miles rode the wave imo.
Nick Saban played defensive back along side Jack Lambert. Nick Saban learned a lot while playing for Kent State most importantly how valuable great defensive play is. He played for a fantastic coach as well.
"In 1971, Don James took over as head coach. Under James, and with notable players such as Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee and former Pittsburgh Steelers middle linebacker Jack Lambert, current Alabama Crimson Tide football coach Nick Saban, and current Missouri Tigers football coach Gary Pinkel, Kent State was finally able to celebrate its first—and so far only—Mid-American Conference title in 1972 followed by a trip to the 1972 Tangerine Bowl. James would coach at Kent State four seasons (1971-1974), posting an overall record of 25-19-1 (.567) which included a 9-2 record in 1973. James left after the 1974 season to accept the head coaching job at the University of Washington, where he would eventually win the 1991 national championship."
His roots for winning started early.
LSU is one of those programs that's just going to attract top recruits. Much like Notre Dame believe it or not. Even with Willingham and Weis they still attracted top recruiting classes despite the actual coaching ability....although I think Willingham was actually a decent coach and a better head coach than Weis.
To be fair, several years before that, Tressel made Miles look like a little child in the Alamo Bowl when the teams had some-what equal talent. Just saying
Truthfully we didn't play our best game against them in the NC game 07'/08' .....we looked sloppy and played sloppy with lots of stupid mistakes, penalties and turnovers.....
I think we made LSU look good.....don't get me wrong...they were / are good.....but we sure didn't help our situation much in that game.
Don't know if anyone remembers or not but a few years ago this coach was headed for scUM ( even reported by Herbstreit) but then came the big upset between WVU and Pitt (i think) and it gave Les Miles a chance to play for a NC. And now you know the rest of the story.
Enter Dick Rod to scUM.
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