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Not PSU(they are not involved). The state has been doing its homework and is about ready to file a lawsuit against the NCAA. An announcement should come out tomorrow at the earliest. I am not sure the specifics or what the suit entails. But Corbett might be digging a grave, he was the Attorney General when the 2001 allegations came out. But decided there was insufficient evidence, all the while accepting campaign contributions(for govenor), from the higher ups of Second Mile Charity.
Apparently everything was normal in '01 in PA politics then. Would have been the same in any other state with a high profile football team.
re-election ploy imo.
Ya this'll be interesting.
They also know the NFL is calling B.OB. so they think they need to do something quick. They'll lose! The NCAA is a private organization in which PeeSU belongs and is subject to their rules.
Just the last few desperate acts by those that can't accept THEIR role in the scandal.
Let 'em go ahead and file. This will be interesting to watch. It will further shame the institution and
lead the PSU community to the embarrassing truth.
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Does the State of Pennsylvania even have standing in this case to file a law suit? The sanctions were against Penn State who apparantly has stepped down on this matter.
I seen a little more, the lawsuit is about the sanctions. Most likely the 60 Million in fines, since its a state school, politicians are probably trying to save themselves with their constituents.
Or they trying to keep O'Brien(found this tidbit, from the scoop).
Penn State: Nearly everyone is reporting that Bill O'Brien will interview for NFL jobs. The way it is being reported sure does make one believe he will leave. No leverage to gain at Penn State...already has everything possible in his contract. We'll keep you posted.
Yes, there is rumor it is only to make sure the $60,000,000 stays in state. It could also be about due process. They've been bitching about this since day one. It is not a due process issue. They belong to a private organization and broke that organization's by-laws and rules of conduct...not the law. The law issues of Spainer, Curley, and the other guy are a separate issue. I personally believe PeeSU got exactly what they deserved. However, this will be very interesting to see how this plays out. In the very unlikely event the state of PA wins its suit, where will this leave the NCAA as far as its power as a governing body? It will effectively neuter it in the future. This also brings up the question of every other team that has been slammed in the past by the NCAA. I just see this as another desperate act by the most delusional fan base in CFB history. They just can't believe that JoePa and his cronies could EVER do any wrong. At the very least they are guilty of ignoring major league red flags in order keep it hushed up to not tarnish their fake reputation.
This post was edited by BIGBUCK20 15 months ago
too bad their not suing for the victims whose lives Sandusky destroyed.
Exactly! These buffoons only think this is a Sandusky issue. It has always been about that crooked old goat's records and their "only game in town" football team. The state will lose. I believe this is just more grandstanding, but it will be precedent setting if they should win.
I think Ped State U needs the NCAA more than the NCAA needs Ped State.
This will not have a happy ending.
This post was edited by fmarsh1216 15 months ago
You know what they call the part of Pennsylvania between Pittsburgh and Philadelphia?
It always seemed to me that this was a legal matter and not an NCAA issue. No recruiting issue, no eligibility issues, nothing academic just a bunch of creeps with too much power and not enough compassion or morality.
The morality is the issue with the NCAA. The lack of it violated the by-laws and policies.
Good for them and I hope they win!
The NCAA oversteps its bounds far more than even Roger Goodell and the NFL.
The issue is that they never hammered a school for morality before. Baylor did not get hammered for morality when their basketball coach covered up murder (they got hit for normal recruiting violations). The lawsuit specifically mentions instances where criminal action by university employees resulted in zero sanctions from the NCAA.
I do understand what you are saying, but just because they never did it before, doesn't mean they can't do it if it is in the by-laws. I believe the state of PA will lose based on this fact alone. Should they have hammered Baylor? You bet! If the state does win, the future of the NCAA will be very interesting though Remember, the NCAA is a private organization in which every school in the NCAA agreed to belong to and follow it's by-laws and policies. Your school broke them and agreed to the sanctions when they could have appealed them. Although I DO believe the NCAA & its subjective and antiquated rule book needs an enema, and I do empathize with the Penn State players who are effected by this mess, I don't give any sympathy to the program. Why? Real simple.....this garbage could have been stopped years ago, but didn't because he right people were too cowardly to act in fear of the embarrassment the program would receive. So kids got molested by this monster for years as he used the school as bait while those right people turned a blind eye. No, it's not a recruiting issue, or an academic issue, or guys trading their own personal property for goods or services. Its a moral issue of epic proportion, never before seen in NCAA history. This is why your program got hammered. Let us all hope we never see the likes of this again in any other school. Guaranteed, if Sandusky had been a biology professor, he would have been hung to the cross 15 years ago.
To me, it just sounds like Corbett is trying to save face to win his re-election. He played with a double edge sword back in 2001 when he was attorney general. Was aware of the allegations, and deemed there was insufficient evidence to prosecute or look further into the matter. All the while he was filling his campaign coffers, with huge donation checks from several well placed board members of the Second Mile Charity. Where all this started from.
Looks like that proverbial double edged sword is about to cut him off at the knees.
But that's what I am saying... by being a Monopoly, the NCAA is held to higher standards than other organizations in regards to issuing sanctions. They can't use a subjective "morality" clause when they see fit... they need to use it consistently. Just as they need to go through their internal judicial procedure consistently. Bypassing the infractions committee and handing out punishments under the threat of harsher penalties (the death penalty) is exactly why monopolies are held to higher standards.
You are correct. Corbett is a self-serving politician and that is why he is doing this. However, that doesn't mean that the lawsuit doesn't have merit.
Like I said, the NCAA DOES need an enema and has for years. I just don't see the state winning this suit based on the substance ( boys being raped) of the issue. Just like the issue itself being unprecedented, so is Corbett's suit. It will be interesting to see how this turns out. The governor says he waited until now to file because he wanted to investigate the laws and didn't want it to interfere with football season. Ya think the possibility of the coach bolting back to the NFL doesn't influence it as well?
you guys are not getting anything out of this other than more embarrassment and longer time to heal.
and just because they did not hammer baylor does not mean they shouldn't have. they fixed it, did this time and will next time. a precedent has been set.
If you read this suit, it is nothing more than an assault on the NCAA (yes, it needs to be changed) while screaming poor Penn State and the people that support it, and yes, we feel bad for Sandusky's victims and those who need to be held accountable should be....just not our football program. That's all they've got, so lets see what happens.
The "substance" (boys being raped) is not an NCAA violation. Just like when players rape co-eds or players sell drugs, ect, ect.
BOB has no influence on this, it is merely Corbett attempting to save his bid for re-election. But if you read the lawsuit, it eloquently paints the NCAA as bullies using their monopolistic power (which has already been verified by the US Supreme Court) to punish PSU in an inconsistent and unprecedented matter. The Baylor case is similar because it too is particularly heinous and the NCAA did nothing to punish for covering up murder. That will prove to be troublesome for the defense.
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