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And the following voters are the reason why
Chadd Cripe 5
Chris Fowler 5
Hays Carlyon 5
Ira Schoffel 5
John Shinn 5
Mike Hlas 5
Steve Sipple 5
Adam Zucker 6
Andy Staples 6
Anthony Gimino 6
Cecil Hurt 6
Garland Gillen 6
Joe Walljasper 6
John Hunt 6
Robert Cessna 6
Tom Murphy 6
Eric Hansen 8
Glenn Guilbeau 8
John Adams 8
John Silver 8
Jon Wilner 9
Joe Giglio 10
Pete DiPrimio 11
Josh Kendall 12
There is nothing that this team could have done to make any of these voters vote OSU #1.
“The only thing they can get me for is running a funeral parlor without a license.”
I do think if we were eligible, they would be forced to vote us higher, because the coaches poll would have us higher.
Honestly, I kinda forgot about that possibilty. There is no way they would vote us in over the 1 loss Southeasterns. Will never happen. Hell how many votes are controlled by ESECpn? Besides, we didn't pound powerhouses like Jacksonville St and Alabama A&M. A 2 loss Bama would get voted ahead of us. I'm just happy in my own mind to be 12-0.
Well, we barely survived against powerhouses like cal, uab and purdue.
Agreed and I knew it was "hog wash" to begin with. Whoever brought this up should have been slapped!
Besides, who cares? The goal for this year was always to win 'em all and let the chips fall where they may.
This year was the prelude to 2013 where the team could play for all the marbles.
Talk of the AP foolishness was stupid to begin with, just like the talk against Gene Smith. A total distraction by some to
get away from the facts and to stir up shit.
Now that you have posted this, maybe we (collectively) can stop talking about this and focus on what TRULY matters for this team, and that's 2013/ 2014 recruiting? It puzzles the shit out of me that lesser schools and coaches can get kids to commit the evening of big games and tOSU is still talking. Where are the big announcements coming out of the Michigan game and an EXTREMELY promising future for this football team?
I would rather have a few key recruits, such as the following, as opposed to whining and crying about mythical ass AP national championships! I want commitments at this point.
East Coast Player Known for Knocking Fools Out One At A Time!
Your right, because chances are Cal, UAB, and Purdue would never stand a chance against Jacksonville St, Bama A&M, and Auburn.
Does all of this make the Maryland and Rutgers move look even better? Not due to strength by any means. But due to population. More AP voters within the conference. Maybe that is a big factor?
At least Fowler was up front with his vote. He said so publicly during the post game.
But I was never under any delusion that we could get the AP vote. The only time and era when this was even possible would've been back during the Woody years when you could be voted #1 without even playing in a bowl game.
U$C, the last program to win the AP title, did so in large part because there were no undefeateds that year. Most notably, the fact that Oklahoma lost its conference championship game yet still got the nod to play in the BC$ title game against LSU. A lot of the old regionalism came into play where the Sugar Bowl wanted an $EC team while the Rose wanted to preserve the B1G vs Pac-10 matchup. That prevented those two from playing so it was shades of the old Alliance Bowl system where Pac-10 and Big Ten schools were relegated to the Rose Bowl while the top $EC, ACC and Big 8 could play in the Sugar and Orange Bowls.
The only way an AP title would've even been remotely close for us is if this season was comparable to 2007. Or, if we had a tougher OOC schedule and won each of our games by an average of 25 points or better. Coupled with the fact that this is seen as another "down" year for the B1G as well.
All I am saying is This team could have went 12-0 and won by 30+ each game and it wouldnt have mattered.
We went 12-0 and that is all that truly matters to me.
Question: How many other teams except ND have survived?
Answer: The Ohio State Buckeyes.
P.S. After the bowl games there will be ZERO.
This post was edited by maci57 17 months ago
We Shouldn't win a NC we didn't play anyone this year and were on probation I said the same thing about USC a few years ago beside our schedule was a joke. We made fun of Michigan last year for playing a weak schedule and having 8 home games but when we do that its fine? Whats even sadder is that next years schedule will be even weaker then it was this year Good Bye NC just look at FSU.
It doesn't matter. AP title is worthless. Do you guys really hold some voted title by a pack of morons in high esteem? I can't wait for the new format to go into play so we can permanently shelve worthless things like "polls" as an archaic past time of little merit other than fan curiosity.
Ohio State went undefeated. Football season is over. Good Job.
"The only thing That Team Up North will be tasting this year is the salty tears of defeat" - UFM
I suppose the AP title would have been nice for our seniors to have. Otherwise, it don't really mean anything. But I feel the argument goes a little deeper then just getting some fake title. Its more about if the vote would ever even be possible. I personally don't think so. Even if ND would have lost last night, and we were bowl eligible, there would be at least 2 southeastern teams with 1 loss ahead of us.
Another way to look at it is, does anyone think if ND lost last night, that they would stand a chance in hell of being ranked above 2 southeastern teams with 1 loss? No way. And their only loss would have been at USC. That's the real argument here.
Well, I don't disagree that we may not deserve an AP title, but to vote one of only two undefeated teams anywhere outside the top 4 is just personal. Those tools at the bottom of the list are just defending their turf. I haven't looked, but I'd guess they are in the southeast somewhere....
All of OSU's titles except 1 was voted for by people. The last one was picked by a damn computer. Does that mean they are all worthless? Why would you not want to be a national champion, voted for, algorithm or played on the field?
Going undefeated over an entire season is so hard OSU has only done it 6 times. Alot of teams play crap schedules and win their division, conference and championships.
I CANNOT WAIT for the playoff so discussions like this will (mostly) disappear.
No it won't. The way its set up right now, the 4 teams get "placed" again. So this year it would be ND, Bama, Ga, and Fla. And if we were eligible, it wouldn't matter. That is the problem with this. It will be at least 2, and probably 3 southeasterns every year. That is the importance of having 4 conferences left. Because those winners will be 1 of the 4 spots. As it is now, 75% southeastern. Its just that simple.
The same logic these guys use to say ND is the best team they use against us. ND should have lost to Pitt if not for a horrible PI call. USC and Oklahoma have proved to be very average at best. Lost what little respect I had left for Fowler after his comments on ABC after The Game. Sure we had 3 chances in the red zone we should have scored TD's instead we got 2 field goals/ a more impressive win would have helped.
It won't happen.
Either a one-loss SEC team is going to win the NC, or ND is going undefeated. With that scenario, there is no way that anyone will rank OSU high enough.
The only way this was possible was if a two loss team snuck in and defeated Notre Dame.
FYI Notred Dame didn't exactly run roughshod over Purdue either.
Having said that, we don't deserve an AP anyway and never thought we had a shot at it. I do think being ineligble effects the voters but I really am just happy we went undefeated. We are the best in the B1G whatever that means but we are so heres to making a run next year.
This post was edited by MITbuck313 17 months ago
Correct, but with all the media hate we've gotten over the years, there is no way they were going to allow the possibility. If ND had lost to SC, we would have gotten some votes, but that's it.
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