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I've never been much into NFL myself. Mainly just like to see former Buckeyes play occasionally when I'm flipping, but otherwise I don't find NFL all that entertaining.
Agree with you guys, i really think he would have had a monster senior year here with a veteran line, and senior RB and senior WR. That was suppose to be a year we had a shot at winning every game instead we go 6-6. But we got Urban Meyer so guess everything worked out after all.
Newton was an unbelievable college QB, but he will not win a superbowl as a pro. I'm not convinced he can throw all that well, not at the level it takes to win a SB. All the NFL analyst are all mesmerized by the Newton and Vick types, but it's the Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers types that are hoisting the SB trophy at seasons end.
If Pryor wants to stay in the league, he should convert to WR, he will never be a quality QB in the NFL. He can't read defenses and cannot throw.
Thats what i dont understand. Look at the recent SB winners the past several years. Peyton and Eli Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Tom Brady. These Qb's are very intelligent, pocket passers. Who go through a read progression and make smart decisions. TP is not that QB. I think his physical talents best suit him as a WR/TE: 6-5, 4.3 speed. This guy could be a matchup nightmare for DB's and LBers. Look at Jimmy Graham for the Saints. TP has the same build, but faster. If Pryor can learn the routes, and develop good hands. i think he will be a great player. Remember we have seen him catch TD passes before.
I love TP, i want him to succeed. He is the only reason why i watched the raiders game a couple nights ago. Pryor was a great QB in college and was very successful, however the NFL is the best of the best and you cant play a position like QB with sheer athleticism alone. Missing his senior season did hurt his development as a QB but the fact is, i dont think Pryor has the brain power to be a Quarter back in the NFL.
This post was edited by ManontheMoon 23 months ago
Delete. Double post.
The only thing is Pryor doesn't like contact, putting him at TE or Wr will only get him out of the league quicker, plus his injury prone career especially in bowl games , he was always dinged at the end of the season, after the rose bowl and after the sugar.
But injuries aside, can you really see pryor taking hits from these NFL bounty LBs and safeties, I never saw Pryor get rocked for real as a QB he will always wiggle away or the get his legs. Imagine a gang tackle on Pryor @WR or TE, TE is worse because of the LBs & SS.
Too logical, too obvious, too simple, therefore unacceptable to this board...
If I gotta see a picture of Obama and his wife every other time I get on this forum then the dude can compare Pryor to him if he wants. I don't know if it's a fair comparison anyway because I don't know if Pryor is a socialist or not.
Personally, I don't have a problem with Pryor stating the obvious. He absolutely did not get the development he should have while here.
Have you heard what our O line has been saying publicly...that for the first time they are actually learning how to read a defense and how to make the adjustment.
Did you see Brax last year running our offense? It constituted a recurring theme of passing in obvious passing downs, send the receivers 20 30 yards further than the first down marker, and as the qb you run for your life.
Only difference is Pryor had more success in that system than Brax the frosh did.
I know pass pro wasn't the O Line strong suit, But Run Blocking the players said you need to thank Bollman for that, also different coaches different concepts.
For Pryor even if he was taught, he was probably thinking about his cars or Gucci at that point in time.
We as fans arguing whether Pryor was taught something or not doesn't even reflect good on us, video coordinator or not , don't you think SIC knew how to work a VCR so well that he would have shouwn pryor different coverages and different defensive sets but Pryors all world mentality hindered him from learning?
The NFL is so different from CFL maybe the raiders gave him a HUGE playbook and he was like F. I didn't have to do this in college, why can't I just run everytime?
I take it you have been to college, did they teach you everything you met at your new Job. Sometimes you get a job that isn't even remotely related to your field or is more advance. Do you tell your self Oh my professors didn't teach me this, so its their fault am failing?
Alot of players that go to lower schools are successful because of their resiliency, blame someone else will get Pryor no where in life.
No, he didn't get the coaching he should have had at OSU. Nick was too busy using his camcorder. I've always wondered what, if any, kind of difference Coach Daniels would have made had he not gotten sick. That said, the kid will never be a public relations major either! "Everybody kills people." I'm sure he feels some ill will toward OSU, but he reaped what was sewen.
The kid is a freak of an athlete. He was billed as the "greatest thing since sliced bread" since he was in the 7th grade. That is why he felt "entitled." He was never a passer in H.S. Just a thrower. He only had to throw a few times a game. Usually a few deep balls. He could throw the ball 75 yards on the fly. Remember that he played 2A ball at Jeannette. He was the biggest, baddest, fastest mofo on each side of the ball. No one could tackle him and he destroyed folks on defense. He played free saftey on "D." Can you imagine being a 6'00," 175 lb receiver coming across the middle with him back there? I'm sure he had the chance to transfer to a higher level H.S., face better comp, while getting better coaching at passing. He didn't want to. He was happy where he was. I always worried about that when he was being recruited.
He had a great 3 seasons, and would have left as OSU's all time passing record holder. They were exciting times. He wasn't as bad as made out to be. What could have been? I have no doubt that we would have played LSU again for the NC last year had the issues not happened. We lost 6 of 7 games by one score or less with major turmoil and player loss/ suspensions. I'm sure we would have beaten "Cryami" with anything more the "Joe the Cadaver" or a scared freshman @ QB. Our defense had some youth issues, but would have been better if the offense had been better.
Exactly my point, But now its some else's fault I didn't take care of my lottery Ticket.
When Sam Bradford came out of college, the anlayst were like in his Offense all the passes were pre-determined, he was told who to throw it to and where to throw it to by the coaches. So when he got to the NFL he had to re-learn everything. You don't see him slighting Oklahoma.
Pryor is over here acting like he wasn't even taught what cover 2 , man , and cover 3 is. Wtf
The playground QB! Of course it's all OSU's fault now. That is his way at getting back at OSU. Kind of "Don't go there if you want to learn enough at QB to be ready for the next level." Poor Jim Tressel! He sold his soul & career for this primadonna.
I think he could use Obama's teleprompter. They seem to have come from the same thread of cloth!
This post was edited by bucksnnuts2 23 months ago
You truly should think before you type,
USC was on probation, scUM was going to run a spread and had 0 chance of producing an NFL QB, Miami losing its coach and still being in trouble with the NCAA, Purdue bottom feeder in the big ten at the time Pryor was picking schools, Washington between coaches and clear on the other side of the country, Stanford with high academics and again on the other side of the country, and then theres OSU who just produced a Heisman winner in Troy Smith and if he was 3 inches taller would have been a first round pick. Guess what, Pryor was 3 inches taller. To me if I'm in the exact situation and I see a QB like Troy Smith who is a very similar QB out of H.S. as Pryor that OSU developed, then OSU is a very good pick, make that a perfect pick. So you are either very anti-OSU or not a very knowledgeable football fan to make a comment like that.
This post was edited by Marty16x1 23 months ago
You were at a top five program of all time with a coach who has a Heisman winner. You were as blessed as anyone in the world.
+1 i totally forgot about 2006 &2007 we had just turned ATH 5'10 Troy Smith into a heisman winner. VcR Sic or not cannot be totally blamed for his non abilities to be a real QB and not a glorified runner.
As far as troy Smith, I think he would have got unbelievable chances if he was Pryor's size, Look @ how long it took Drew Brees to constantly prove himself despite his size (Am not comparing Troy to Brees, so don't jump @ it).
Look @ Jamarcus Russell and the free money he took from the raiders.
Being a fan or being objective doesn't mean you have to find every fault with our buckeyes, every team isn't perfect alot of flaws are masked by wins, so be happy when you win. And stop complaining about every thing, life aint Perfect.
With power houses go, we had just come of 2 BCS title appearances, even though we lost, only 2teams get that opportunity. I was happy to be there despite the outcome.
Pryor is a terrible NFL quarterback. The Raiders should just cut their loses and convert him to WR
Let's be honest here and I am not a Pryor fan but he did not get any QB coaching while at OSU. I said that from the time he was here. JT won lots of games but when he promoted Nick S to QB coach it was a joke along with most of his offensive staff. The only thing keeping the OSU offense running was Pryor's athlethic ability considering the fact we had no imagination on offense and a poorly coached o-line.
This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by jwm552002 23 months ago
Pryor did two things well. First, he ran out of bounds better than anyone in the past 25 years and secondly he had no trouble at all accepting freebies. I wonder how those two relate to the NFL.
LOL. Your right and I mentioned it earlier, he got no coaching and I complained about it during his time here and I have no problem with him admitting it. He won a tons of games here with no gameplan whatsoever.
We all no that but what he stated was a fact when it came to coaching.
It's a reminder of much more than that...
That's a rather simplistic and cliched response.
As far as I'm concerned, TP can easily win the starting job in Oakland--and that's with two former Heisman-winning and 1st round pick QBs in front of him.
Those two were great college QBs but have been at best mediocre and at worst horrible starting NFL QBs.
What Pryor lacks is leadership ability--which is huge. He also lacks fire--two attributes that another great college but horrible pro has (Tebow). Newton is almost identical to Pryor in terms of size and skill set, however what sets them apart is the fact that the Heisman and national championship winner fights when down. Can deal with adversity while Pryor has not shown the ability to do so.
Because if he did, he would've seized the job by now regardless of what passing skills he has or doesn't have. People were calling the other #2 "$cam Newton," suspecting that he would have to withdraw from the Heisman ceremonies and more. And what did he do? Led his team back from a three TD deficit to beat Alabama. Strong will and desire in other words. Pryor on the other hand would have his head in his hands after a loss and speak to the media or on Twitter out of frustration.
But as far as him converting to WR, no. If Tebow can be allowed to play QB so too should Pryor!
I agree with you on that part (about him running out of bounds too often). It would be one thing if he were Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, two QBs who're not scramblers or QBs with 4.3 speed.
But as far as accepting "freebies" goes, whether you believe it or not, TP's family financial woes were legit. If you ever saw the home his mother was living in here in Columbus, you'd know this wasn't in any way a Reggie Bush-like situation. Not just that, his father had massive medical bills as well. Then even look at the loaner cars he was driving. They were used domestic vehicles.
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