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I've wanted this for 10-15 years...
Kind of hard when Michigan and OSU take all the top prospects from the midwest.
Funny, I think I have heard this before maybe from Ole Miss fans...
Even if that were remotely true there are still more than plenty good student athletes out there to be had by Illinois, Iowa, Purdue...
The state of Ohio had 19 4-star players, the state of Florida had 6-five stars and 45 4-stars. Hard for big ten to compete with the south when most of the talent comes from there.
Hard to argue this point
Get out there and sell your program. Hard to compete when you don't try.
Damn, why even argue the point, Urbs said it himself! I guess Urban doesn't know what he's talking about?!
With all due respect its a lot easier to sell osu than minnesota.
How would you know. Good city, good school, decent facilities. I guess if thats the mindset they might as well just send letters out and ask recruits if they're interested. Save gas anyway.
HUH ? i know because it's a fact. If you put Urban at Minnesota and Urban at Ohio State he gets better players at Ohio State .. it's not 1940 anymore.
Hes probably going to go over some of the little things that both Michigan and Ohio State do that those schools don't think are worth the money. Like paying assistants good money. That's the number 1 problem with the Big Ten all its top assistants are getting paid double in the SEC or the PAC XII. Schools wonder why they can;t get top of the line coaches, well if you aren't going to pay their assistants they are not coming. Bielema leaving should have been a wake up call to the entire conference.
If Urban Meyer had his staff at Minny he would be selling that program to top recruits nationwide.
He's been sucessful everywhere he's been - Minny would be no different. His recruiting efforts would make them a top program, maybe not as quickly as at tOSU but it would happen.
Vice versa - put Jim tressel and his staff at Minny - not much success. I say that respectfully, Tress did a lot here at tOSU, but his recruiting was somewhat limited.
Actually I agree. Your absolutley correct.
I listened to an interview with Bielma on college sports radio -this is what he harped on for 30 minutes. Said he could not keep a good staff together and his best recruiters left for more money at other schools.
First things first....the B1G needs to spend the money on the coaches.
Neo is that you.........
Stop making excuses.
Urban was right to call out the coaches, even though he said he wasn't trying to do so.
I'm sick of Minnesota, Illinois, Iowa and Indiana.
Can't quite bash MSU and Wisky as they have actually won something of note and 'Braska is new to the dance.
MSU beat GA recently, Wisky....at least made the Rose Bowl despite their normal/ annual failures, as well as melt downs!
Why should these schools get equal share of the pot if they aren't competing to bring in the cash for the conference?
No more excuses. I just wish Urban would have gone gangsta' and started naming names to make the discussion personal.
Would have made the ass whippings the conference is about to take a bit more personal come 2013/ 2014.
If J. Kill, Ferentz and whomever else can't recruit then they need to be called out.
Delaney should get involved and let these guys know that the free lunch is over and they stand to lose
conference sanctioned cash if they don't get their shit together!!
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BuckNasty is all about The Buckeyes!!!
Maybe true, but to do so would require immediate firings in a few towns.
Give the cash to the assistants for sure. However, for some of the head guys, they need to hand out some pink slips.
How the frack Ferentz is allowed to annually steal $5M per year from Iowa is a travesty.
I hope you aren't asking that a school like Iowa up his salary to 6 or 7M? Hell he's already stealing why the hell would you give him more?
Thank you Nasty!
Finally, someone who understands the B1G's problems!
HOW can Iowa continue to pay Ferentz big bucks is beyond me!?
He hasn't fielded a team since...
Illinois gets great players, their coaching has been terrible. They've sent some players to the draft for the past few years, even some were still juniors.
Edited: for my terrible spelling.
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MEMO TO FICKELL: DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS!
Well.... getting players is only part of the story.
What about big time wins for Illinois? When was the last BIG TIME win for the Ilini?
Dude the last that anyone in Southern Cal or in Baton Rouge remembers about Illinois was the ass whipping they
took in the Rose Bowl about 5 years ago. They got scull dragged by the Trojans.
Anyone remember that awesome representation of the Big 10 by Illinois?
That team is a joke. They aren't holding up their end of the conference and that's what Coach Meyer is
I have lived in Minnesota, no one is going to recruit the best players from Texas, Florida and California to Minneapolis. If you have never lived in that part of the country you have no idea how severe winter can be. Maybe Meyer would have more success then most but were is Minnesota going to find a coach with Meyers credibility? It isn't going to happen.
Wisconsin has had pretty good success, but if life there is so wonderful why did their coach just go to Arkansas? It is just easier to go to where the talent is then to constantly try to convince that talent to leave their home regions and families to experience winters that last for months and can frequently see lows in the minus 20's.
Don't get me wrong I have lived in Ohio almost my entire life, have a degree from OSU and would love to see the B10 football have more respect nationally, but history marches on and until something changes to attract more people back to the Midwest it is what it is.
I respectfully disagree, nobody knew who Urban was when he coached at Bowling Green, Utah took a chance and hired him and boom he was successful. Florida took a chance, hired him and boom 2 national titles.
Point is, board of trustees/ AD's have to do a better job evaluating and deciding what/ where they want to go with their respective football programs. Hire coaches that have fire to win or continue with the status quo. Pay your staffs that can sell your program and they will come.
By the way, it's taken Tubby a few years but his basketball program seems to be doing fairly well.
Maybe they should shut the program down and just give everyone a +1 in the win column?
What the frack is the point in playing football and building a stadium if its as bleak as you described?
If they can't nor won't compete then they shouldn't collect money as a B10 participant. This in my book is dead weight
and can't be justified. There has got to be some responsibility of the University to do its part either by hiring a competent
coach or investing in recruiting. No team should be allowed to just "hang out" on the other member school's dime
with the expectation of a check from those in the conference that play in playoff/ championship games.
I don't think anyone at tOSU is okay with beating the shit out of Minnesota year after year, playing for titles and sending
cash to Minneapolis just so they can have women's tennis, ski shooting or under water basket weaving.
If they are going to have a sports program then they need to compete and be responsible for their own program. NO MORE FREE
LUNCHES and mooching off the B10, as well as "booty" from tOSU.
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Yes, thank you, I can not beleive that a state the size of Illinois can not produce enough quality players to get Illinois relevant with some good coaching/ recruiting.
When Meyer and the Buckeyes put 50 to 70 points on the weaker Big Ten teams like the Purdues, Iowas and Minnesotas of the World. These other schools will figure out they will have to recruit better players from all over the country especially in the South and in the state of Ohio and Pennsylvania just to compete with OSU. What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of opposingfan bases plus hearing that pr..k Mark May cry when OSu wins another national title. Crush the $EC will to live. I want Saban to have a mental breakdown after meyer rips him a new orifice.
P.S. OSU needs to get rid of the lightweight scheduling of MAC School of the Blind Scrubs Buffalo, Florida A & M, and California. Nobody respects beating up the Little Giant college football teams. Need to play the Big Boys for some quality night games in August and September. I would pay top dollar for those games.
Oh schnaps! Dude did you just quote a line from Conan the Barbarian??
PHUCKING OUTSTANDING!!! +1
Nothing like..."Crushing your enemies. Seeing them driven before you and hearing the lamentation of the women!!!" "Good Conan. Good!!!"
CLASSIC line and classic use!!!
I agree with you. What has to happen is that Coach Meyer has to smash the league another year. Say beat a few clubs by +50 or pitch a few shut outs to get their attention then some of these schools will forced to recognize that they are failing further and further behind.
I would argue that he runs the table and ends up 26-0 the ADs will forced to recognize what he's saying about recruiting, and getting better
on the field.
Right now, the clowns in Madison and Minneapolis are thumbing their nose at Meyer's comments. That will have to change soon!
i thought chad was the worst poster here ... but it's obvious now it's you.
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