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OSU had an on-campus shooting just a few years ago. Iowa had one, too.
Sandusky's crimes were the work of a monster that took place over at least a decade and were ignored by school authorities for years.
Va Tech's shootings were the work of a monster over a matter of minutes. Va Tech's admin has since made it the model for campus security. It may be the safest college campus in the country.
The word down here in the carolinas is actually Virginia and UNC are tied at the hip. If UNC comes, so will Virginia and vice versa....
Can't wait for the games to begin...gonna be great. In Delany I trust.
Thanks for input. So if Virginia and UNC are at the hip does this also mean Duke as well?
In a setup where you have four 4-team divisions like you outlined above, at the end of the season, do you have a semi-playoff there at the end with a conf. championship as well or do you just factor in overall conference record like we did before we added Nebraska to figure out who won the conference?
OK, I get it and the back-to-back is a good idea, at least you can create a "mini-rivalry" so to speak. But as soon as it ramps up, it's over. Over an extended period, the average is the same:
Season 1 (2016) - A at B
Season 2 - B at A
Season 3 - A at C
Season 4 - C at A
Season 5 - A at D
Season 6 - D at A
Season 7 (2022) - A at B
Season 8 - B at A
Season 9 - A at C
Season 10 - C at A
Season 11 - A at D
Season 12 - D at A
Over 12 seasons, you are playing the teams in the other division 4 times - two at home and two away. On average, that's every 3 years, and hosting them once every 6 years. Because you are in Iowa, let's use the Hawkeyes (Div B) as an example. Assuming TOSU and Mich are in the same division (A), you would host them in 2016, and not again until 2022. An entirely new generation of players. I just don't see the Hawkeye faithful happy with such a scenario. Why even be in the same conference if you are playing that infrequently?
And yes, the BIG scheduling stinks right now. Why? Because teams aren't playing frequently enough. Why exascerbate what's already a bad thing.
I admit it's an imperfect solution but at the rate the B1G is adding teams, if it sticks with the conventional two-division format, the rotation would be even worse--instead of twice every six years in a 16-team B1G as we'd see with four 4-team divisions, the rotation would only be twice every 8 years (7 division games + 2 cross-division games versus the other division's 8 members). And it gets even worse if the B1G grows to 20 teams. The bigger the B1G gets, the more four divisions becomes more practical than two. Even now with just 12 teams, Ohio State and Nebraska aren't scheduled to play again before 2018, which means Courtney Love won't have a chance to play in front of his family and friends in the Shoe and, again, that's with only 12 teams.
If A is playing B and C is playing D in a mini round robin, the two teams between A/B and C/D with the best records would play for the B1G championship.That way we could be assured that those two teams would not have previously played so it wouldn't be a rematch. Then when A plays C and B plays D, again, the two teams with the best records between the A/C and B/D round robins would play for the B1G championship. The whole thing is based on fluidity, which I think would add an element of intrigue and excitement.
I like the no rematch aspect. A lot.
When looking at this whole expansion question one thing to remember is that applying for membership in the AAU is not the same as being a member. There was an article about Nebraska being booted from the AAU not long after it became a B10 member that I linked in a post sometime back. In that article it was mentioned that the AAU was not open to the idea that everyone who wanted in was going to get in. They set the bar high and appear to be inclined to limit membership to a select few. In order for a new school to get in they may have to replace a current member. Hence the decision that Nebraska was no longer elite enough to justify its inclusion over equally qualified schools who were not members. Instead of inviting those schools in they decided to throw Nebraska out.
The point is that if AAU membership is a very important criterion for getting in to the B10 (with the possible exception of ND) then the prospective candidates list to get to 16 or 18 teams is short. Virginia, NC, Ga Tech and Duke are the remaining ACC schools who are AAU members. I am inclined to think that Duke could be the odd man out. If the B10 were to get Virginia and NC then they would be at 16. To get to 18 could mean Duke and Ga Tech but I suspect that Ga Tech is much more attractive then Duke simply because if you already have UVA and NC, Duke adds nothing in terms of geographic footprint. Kansas may actually be more attractive and I suspect that ND might get a last chance to join up before Duke.
Frankly if that should occur Duke should consider dropping football and hooking up with the basketball schools bolting the Big East. I would not be surprised if several schools might not ultimately reevaluate their commitment to Division I football if they get locked out of the big money conferences that appear to be forming. I can remember when Xaiver dropped football and Dayton dropped from Division I to Division III. Neither ever looked back as far as I know. It may sound extreme but football just keeps getting more expensive and if you don't have a seat at the adult table where the big bucks are being divided up it may simply not be practical to keep up the pretense.
I agree with you that VA has a lot of quality caliber athletes. Many of whom go to Alabama, Florida, FSU, Clemson and other $EC schools. The remaining high caliber ones will go to Va Tech.
But prior to Va Tech becoming the "perennial power" that they've been for much of the past 15 years, us, Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State were able to go in there with relative ease and land some of their best prospects. Of course those such as VA natives Tiki and Ronde Barber along with Thomas Jones stayed home to play for UVA but they're not the majority.
But with Maryland we've already gained access to the D.C./eastern VA region.
Now I will say that if we executed this well, we could put a huge dent in the $EC's ability to just go up there and get the pick of that state and region's best talent. And if that's Delany's ultimate objective, then I get it and I'd be all for it. But unfortunately I don't think that it is at this point.
Of course and that's what I was saying. I said "Tobacco Country" which is North Carolina and the "Heart of Dixie" which is Atlanta.
What amazes me is how despite its history how it's become this go-to destination over the past four decades for midwestern and east coast natives looking for a warm, hip and cool city to reside. About 6 million live in the metro area alone so that would be quite attractive to Delany in terms of its diverse demographics and population.
I think Virginia will recruit better for football in the Big 10 than in the ACC.
Of course Virginia Tech going to the SEC would negate some of this improvement.
I still think Virginia, Maryland, and Rutgers have high ceilings outside of the ACC and Big East.
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