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True you never said she was a terrible person but in your previous post ("a Hooters girl of all people, commenting on Ray Lewis' credibility or lack thereof.") you certainly seem to be condemning her or judging her is some sort of way, which you are clearly against so it makes you look hypocritical to say the least. On to the night of the murders... Anyone who truly believes Ray Lewis had zero involvement in them what so ever is either ridiculously ignorant or is lying to themselves.
As usual you are correct, none of us know the truth and the same goes for O.J. After all the glove didn't fit and the white suit probably wouldn't either.
I just have one question that I would like to have a honest answer and that is how would you truly feel if one of the victims were one of yours? Would you truly forgive and forget? Would you take the hush money and say O.K.?
I agree but my comments were in general and not specifically directed towards Ray Lewis. Even though I'm not very familar with the crime, was anyone ever charged with murder? I'm sure there was DNA all over the place. I also agree with the comment there are people who will no doubt lie to support one of their own; it happens all time.
What's the big deal, she's just saying what everybody else is thinking, her biggest mistake was apologizing which nullified the integrity of her statement.
If Ray doesn't want this type of attention then he can back down from the self centered persona he's created. The personality he's put out there leaves him open to opinion, so if anybody has anything to say about it then it just goes with the territory.
He also created a world of suspicion by avoiding coming clean with his role in the murders, by design obviously. If he had nothing to hide then he'd be forthcoming.
I have no problem with what she did, I'm surprised others do.
While I disagree with Sugar on this one, I must admit he's a hell of a poster. He says what he believes and doesn't back down under pressure from others. He's thoughtful and expresses himself well. Glad he's on the Board.
I think one of the reasons why Ray Lewis bothers so many people (including me) is the media is shoving him down our throats with a doctored narrative. They have intentionally portrayed Ray Lewis as a inspirational humanitarian in some regards. When someone is presented as almost an Idol for everyone to admire, but they ignore a very significant, violent past as it relates to that person, people naturally feel their being conned and lied to. On game day, it seems like they have a dedicated camera just for Ray Lewis. We see Ray Lewis before the game, during the game, and after the game. It's all about Ray Lewis. Don't the networks think Baltimore has anyone else on the team?
I enjoy what he brings.
More than anything I think this is what bothers me the most too. Probably most of us for that matter.
He's a great football player....and I wish the media would just leave it at that rather than the sensation they make him out to be....
But I do understand Sugar's main point.....what the media does is really beyond our control....although I feel Ray definitely uses and hypes up the attention the media gives him....if they are willing to give it to him it's not necessarily his fault.
In the end it comes down to the fact that it is what it is...and we have no control over what happened 13 years ago....and people may forgive.....but at the same time people don't forget. Most of us obviously haven't forgotten.
Most people.....the vast majority....don't like bad/evil to prevail. That's why we have a judicial system. Being allowed to do whatever you want whenever you want without consequences does not contribute to or improve our society.
Ray Lewis at one point was acting in a bad/evil manner......even if he didn't do it.....it's what he didn't do that's more important and in this case.....bad/evil prevailed and that's what doesn't sit well with a good majority of people.
Ray Lewis may very well be a good person....but the manner in which he handled that part of his life will stay with him a long time.
This post figures!
sugarcrystal is clearly the consummate pro sports fan. Nothing matters except what these freaks and felons do on the field. He probably worships in front of an O.J. life size poster each morning. This post says more about sugarcrystal than I ever wanted to hear! Idiotic does not begin to describe his post.
First off, nice grab for Welker. Damn! Ray is the best MLB of all time imo and i respect that and loved watching him play over the years. Other than that i dislike everything about him. Im glad she said all of that
I think you ought to keep YOUR opinion about religion to yourself!
Yes, sugarcrystal has been programmed well by the NFL marketing machine!
hate on the black guy. honestly. Don't want to bring up the race card, but if you're black player and have done anything remotely bad in the past you will get hated on hard.
Is somehow being involved in a double homicide fall within your parameter of "remotely bad?"
He didn't get convicted. So, basically, just being involved with something or accused of something is enough to hate someone for.
Whoa, Whoa! What's the problem with Hooter's Girls??
This has been covered all throughout this thread as well as others. He pled guilty to obstruction of justice and had a financial settlement with the families of the two murder victims. I'm sorry, but you just don't do that unless your somehow culpable.
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I answered your question how? And I didn't have the "guts" to come out and say what exactly? There was nothing to say because all you did was make ASSumptions based on what I said. Nothing concrete whatsoever.
You had no point to make just to go on a rant. No load of crap.
So I'll tell you like I'll tell anyone else: I don't give a crap about Armstrong, Lewis, Teo, O.J. or whoever else you want to bring up. My only objective is to put all of this into perspective because I, like you don't know any of them.
And had it not been for the media exposure they've received over the past week or so, you wouldn't be on here making far-reaching conclusions and assumptions about me and anyone else who may disagree with on how to address these particular matters.
That's a fair point.
You seem to defend everything he has done so what do you expect me to think. LOL!
The facts are they could not find his white suit which would have been damming evidence and that is a fact and not "tabloid fodder". He sold his soul and based on who he was he got off along with some cash. The NFL should be embarrased to act the way they do about him and makes me want to puke. Everytime I see this guy I am amazed how quickly society forgets what this guy was involved in.
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